8BA in a 35/36

[jrvariel48]

I'm looking specifically for what people are using for upper radiator hoses when late heads are installed in a 1935/36.
Thanks, Joe

[oldbugger]

I used a rubber bushing on the head side, and whatever I could find at napa to make the hookup. Cant remember the number, sorry. Paul

[uncle buck]

I'd like to see this too. I'd also like to see how to fit a stock fan on an 8ba in a 36. I hate electric fans

[Kurt in NJ]

I have given this some thought, a 53 merc is one of my engine options
There's thermostat housings that are made for the larger hoses

I am pretty sure I can drill for oil to 37-48 pumps, and there's the sealed bearing replacement pumps
Original intake and front cover, machine snout of crankshaft to early pulley specs

Use 59 style rear main cap, oversized hollow dowel pins for modified stay rods-- cut trans adapter in1/2, add oil pan mount bosses, use original pan.
Perhaps people that have tried such modification can say why it won't work I am not at the decision time in the restoration yet, and there's the 59 block that is at 3/8 that is crying for a 4.250 crankshaft, that block doesn't even hav any of the "factory " cracks and has the cleanest water jackets that I have ever seen

[19Fordy]

Tons of info. has been written about installing an 8BA into 36-40 Fords.
When you Googgle "Install an 8BA into a 1936 ford" this appears.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

Then read every link shown that mentioned anything close to what you are trying to do. Your biggest problem will be getting the 8BA fan to fit properly as it sits too high for the slanted 36 radiator. However, here's one solution:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...+fan+clearance and
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...stion.1128673/

Drake sells the fan pulley. look here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bob+...N4UWOWB9grCDM:

He also has the larger thermostat housings you will need.
https://www.bobdrake.com/FordItem.aspx?Item=HR-8592-A

[V8COOPMAN]

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Originally Posted by uncle buck

I'd like to see this too. I'd also like to see how to fit a stock fan on an 8ba in a 36. I hate electric fans

uncle buck.....Click this link below for the lowdown on what we did for a mechanical fan on Heard's '36 3-window with an 8BA. DD


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...08#post1869208

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by oldbugger

I used a rubber bushing on the head side, and whatever I could find at napa to make the hookup. Cant remember the number, sorry. Paul

Not a problem Paul. I kinda figured it would be something custom.
Thanks

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by uncle buck

I'd like to see this too. I'd also like to see how to fit a stock fan on an 8ba in a 36. I hate electric fans

I don't have a choice but to run an electric fan. With a blower there's no room for a fan!

[AnthonyG]

Here’s mine, pretty easy w 90 degree stainless tube & standard cooling Sys rubber parallel connections.

[AnthonyG]

Here’s mine, pretty easy w 90 degree stainless tube & standard cooling Sys rubber parallel connections. Also while hard to see in pic I cut dow the dia. Of a stock 4 blade fan & it fits clearing the overhang on the radiator. But I also use an electric push Spal fan between radiator & grille.

[19Fordy]

Would be better if you could lower the mechanical fan assembly to center of radiator.
Is your radiator straight or slanted?

[jrvariel48]

Anyone with an 8ba or later heads with a 35 radiator?

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by jrvariel48

Anyone with an 8ba or later heads with a 35 radiator?

Does this help? It's Heard's '36 3-window w/8BA. DD

[JM 35 Sedan]

Originally Posted by jrvariel48

Anyone with an 8ba or later heads with a 35 radiator?

I don't have a picture handy to post here, but when I did this conversion many years ago on a 35 coupe, I recall the top hoses connected to the thermostat housing necks, and were basically a straight shot up to the inlet tubes on a stock '35 radiator, either small or large top tank versions.

[Tinker]

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154620


Start at post 10 then 20 and link.


Most of us are aware of the center fan of 40s flatheads. So anything is possible.



Seems a natural connection 8ba heads to a 35 rad.



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[mogiley]

just spent a week doing the same thing ,i took a1936 generator fan mount cut the shaft off made a new shaft mounted denso alternator to 1936 gen mount with fan and dual carbs and it all fits and works

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by mogiley

just spent a week doing the same thing ,i took a1936 generator fan mount cut the shaft off made a new shaft mounted denso alternator to 1936 gen mount with fan and dual carbs and it all fits and works

mogiley….That sounds very interesting! Is there any way you could possibly post a couple of pictures of that? If you have difficulty posting pics here on the 'Barn, could you maybe e-mail 'em to me so I could post them here on the forum for you? DD


My e-mail..... [email protected]

[mogiley]

i will go out in the shop tomorrow morning take some photos and send them

[V8COOPMAN]

Sounds great....can't wait. And thank you! What general part of the world are you in? DD

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Does this help? It's Heard's '36 3-window w/8BA. DD

That'll work COOP, thanks

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

I don't have a picture handy to post here, but when I did this conversion many years ago on a 35 coupe, I recall the top hoses connected to the thermostat housing necks, and were basically a straight shot up to the inlet tubes on a stock '35 radiator, either small or large top tank versions.

Thanks JM. I'm trying to stay away from the flex hose because of the look of it.
I'm going to prop the radiator on today and get some measurements. I'll see what I come up with.
Thanks, Joe

[Ol' Ron]

Coopman, is that a Beach 18 in your Avatar???? I had a ride in one of them back in the early 50's from Miami to Key west, stopped at several places on the way to deliver news papers and other stuff. hen he too off he used both engines, then shut one down to an Idle. Not sure why I was in the plane/ I think my Harley broke down and I had to get back to the base??

[mogiley]

on my 36 with an 8ba i bought sbc thermostat housing that swivel from ebay then milled to fit

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Ol' Ron

Coopman, is that a Beach 18 in your Avatar???? I had a ride in one of them back in the early 50's from Miami to Key west, stopped at several places on the way to deliver news papers and other stuff. hen he too off he used both engines, then shut one down to an Idle. Not sure why I was in the plane/ I think my Harley broke down and I had to get back to the base??

Ol' Ron.....The picture below is a Beech 18. Compare it with MY avatar. My pic is a Cessna T-50......in fact, it's Sky King's T-50. DD




Ron...I know you've forgotten, but you asked about my avatar about five years ago. Click on the link below and read posts #10 and #11.


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...light=beech+18






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[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by mogiley

on my 36 with an 8ba i bought sbc thermostat housing that swivel from ebay then milled to fit

Nice move! Got any pics?

[oldbugger]

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if your test fitting for hose length, put the radiator support rods on, to get the correct angle. it was more than I thought

[jrvariel48]

Originally Posted by oldbugger

if your test fitting for hose length, put the radiator support rods on, to get the correct angle. it was more than I thought

Exactly what I did and it's about a 7" offset!!! It's gonna look horrible!

[Brian]

Got no photos sorry, but what I did was use a couple of Flathead Jack's thermostat housings to suit the big radiator hose...cut each one parallel with the flange, about 5/8" up. This allowed me to 'orientate' each outlet to suit a straight length of hose [as original in 35], and TIG welded them back on. Still not perfectly in line [one side more so than the other], but I could use original 35 top hoses.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by mogiley

just spent a week doing the same thing ,i took a1936 generator fan mount cut the shaft off made a new shaft mounted denso alternator to 1936 gen mount with fan and dual carbs and it all fits and works

These are the pics of the mods that mogiley talks about in post #16 above. DD





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[Bursonaw]

Here is mine. Hoses wrapped with a stainless hose cover from a dress up kit.




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[jrvariel48]

Wow awesome looking motors!! Thank for the pics!