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37 Coupe · 09-26-2018, 07:59 AM

Les Andrews may not have even been born when this was done.By reading his book on engine removal and noting some things I would not have thought of also,creating a couple issues. The adapter,engine block to clutch bellhousing is cracked,from applying pressure with a floor jack without the engine mounts loose or frame spread? Also the two bottom bolts on clutch housing,casting around these bolts are cracked away,lots of leakage also from transmission. so I really did not want to remove engine at all except for oil pan gasket replacing and cleaning up engine but now I think I had better address transmission and clutch area even though it drove and shifted fine and probably has for years as long as someone kept oil in it. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it but its definitely been bruised years ago.

Marshall V. Daut · 09-26-2018, 09:45 AM

The worst enemy our old cars face is NOT the relentless passage of time and the elements - it's what previous owners did to them.
Marshall

ursus · 09-26-2018, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshall V. Daut

The worst enemy our old cars face is NOT the relentless passage of time and the elements - it's what previous owners did to them.
Marshall

Very true statement. Much of the time devoted to restoration is actually spent on correcting or repairing the mistakes made by the previous owner(s).

gweilbaker · 09-26-2018, 12:46 PM

Those cracks could have came from a large pot hole. The whole suspension to and fro is referenced to that area via the motor mounts to the rest of the car. Cracks are common to that piece.

37 Coupe · 09-26-2018, 02:02 PM

I thought I had a good adapter bell from another engine but it to is cracked.so look for another or try to find someone who can work on cast iron.

nhusa · 09-26-2018, 03:51 PM

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How about posting a picture?
I have a spare bell housing and I don’t think it has cracks.

37 Coupe · 09-26-2018, 04:40 PM

I would be interested in buying either the bellhousing for the transmission or if what you have is the flywheel housing if there are no cracks.I don't think I could get a good picture but I would rather get a picture from you if you would private message me. Thank you

CarlG · 09-26-2018, 11:47 PM

The flywheel housing I had that I thought was perfect turned out to have cracks when it was dye penetrant inspected.

I was able to get a used one without cracks from Berts as a reasonable cost.

Tom Wesenberg · 09-27-2018, 06:29 AM

If the cracks are short, then it will probably be OK to use it.
I'd bet a lot of Model A's have cracks in the flywheel cover.

daveymc29 · 09-27-2018, 09:57 AM

I had a few extras and found one out of five that wasn't cracked. I did a lot of drilling and tapping and stitched the bad ones back together Using locktight with each stitch bolt. I then hung them and hit them with a ballpeen to see if they would ring like the uncracked on. Not that good at stitching, they still went "thud." However, I wouldn't hesitate to use any of them as the show no sign of movement when I tried to bend the things, (gently)

MickeyT · 09-28-2018, 03:19 PM

It's a good chance the next owner is going to say the same thing and the next and the next.

09-26-2018, 07:59 AM	#1
37 Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,835	I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book Les Andrews may not have even been born when this was done.By reading his book on engine removal and noting some things I would not have thought of also,creating a couple issues. The adapter,engine block to clutch bellhousing is cracked,from applying pressure with a floor jack without the engine mounts loose or frame spread? Also the two bottom bolts on clutch housing,casting around these bolts are cracked away,lots of leakage also from transmission. so I really did not want to remove engine at all except for oil pan gasket replacing and cleaning up engine but now I think I had better address transmission and clutch area even though it drove and shifted fine and probably has for years as long as someone kept oil in it. I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it but its definitely been bruised years ago. __________________ "Never complain,never explain"... Henry Ford II

09-26-2018, 09:45 AM	#2
Marshall V. Daut Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 2,111	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book The worst enemy our old cars face is NOT the relentless passage of time and the elements - it's what previous owners did to them. Marshall

09-26-2018, 12:46 PM	#4
gweilbaker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lindenhurst, IL Posts: 792	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book Those cracks could have came from a large pot hole. The whole suspension to and fro is referenced to that area via the motor mounts to the rest of the car. Cracks are common to that piece.

09-26-2018, 02:02 PM	#5
37 Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,835	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book I thought I had a good adapter bell from another engine but it to is cracked.so look for another or try to find someone who can work on cast iron. __________________ "Never complain,never explain"... Henry Ford II

09-26-2018, 03:51 PM	#6
nhusa Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 549	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) How about posting a picture? I have a spare bell housing and I don’t think it has cracks.

09-26-2018, 04:40 PM	#7
37 Coupe Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,835	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book I would be interested in buying either the bellhousing for the transmission or if what you have is the flywheel housing if there are no cracks.I don't think I could get a good picture but I would rather get a picture from you if you would private message me. Thank you __________________ "Never complain,never explain"... Henry Ford II

09-26-2018, 11:47 PM	#8
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book The flywheel housing I had that I thought was perfect turned out to have cracks when it was dye penetrant inspected. I was able to get a used one without cracks from Berts as a reasonable cost. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

09-27-2018, 06:29 AM	#9
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book If the cracks are short, then it will probably be OK to use it. I'd bet a lot of Model A's have cracks in the flywheel cover.

09-27-2018, 09:57 AM	#10
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book I had a few extras and found one out of five that wasn't cracked. I did a lot of drilling and tapping and stitched the bad ones back together Using locktight with each stitch bolt. I then hung them and hit them with a ballpeen to see if they would ring like the uncracked on. Not that good at stitching, they still went "thud." However, I wouldn't hesitate to use any of them as the show no sign of movement when I tried to bend the things, (gently)

09-28-2018, 03:19 PM	#11
MickeyT Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 195	Re: I wish the previous owner had Les Andrews book It's a good chance the next owner is going to say the same thing and the next and the next.