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Bruce_MO · 08-20-2010, 04:37 PM

I saw reference today on FB that an A owner is using Penrite steering lube to eliminate leakage. It sounds like the lube is more of a gel, and if its 1200 W, it obviously is quite viscous. So I checked the Restoration Supplies catalog. In spite of new gaskets, O-ring on the sector, light rod tube, etc., I have a leak and I don't want to have to pull the steering gear and try again. It seems like it'll be a possible fix. I'm using a 600W and STP mix that's still leaking.

Does anyone have any long term experience with the Penrite steering box lubricant? Would it work well in a box with needle bearings? with bushings?

Thanks

Tacoma Bob · 08-20-2010, 05:39 PM

I was the poster Bruce. Will keep you updated on the leakage. Mine was so bad I actually pop riveted a small bread pan to the engine splash pan under the box. The penrite literature mentions stopping leaks as an additional benefit. Will let you know.

Tom Endy · 08-20-2010, 07:04 PM

What supplier carries it, and in what quantity?

Tom Endy

JunkOSC · 08-20-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Endy

What supplier carries it, and in what quantity?

Tom Endy

Here is a link for Restoration Supply Co.

http://www.tradeslang.com/essex/Cata...ubrication.pdf

pat in Santa Cruz · 08-20-2010, 10:34 PM

I have used it in early Lincolns and Pierce Arrows with good results. The Lincolns have Gemmer boxes, although larger than an A,the pierce has a Ross. Neither has any sort of seal. Usually on an A we replace the sector bushing with one having a seal installed when we rebuild them, but there's no such thing for the big classic cars so we use Penrite. Its time consuming to install as it moves very slowly. I get it from Restoration Supply Co.

JunkOSC · 08-20-2010, 10:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pat in Santa Cruz

I have used it in early Lincolns and Pierce Arrows with good results. The Lincolns have Gemmer boxes, although larger than an A,the pierce has a Ross. Neither has any sort of seal. Usually on an A we replace the sector bushing with one having a seal installed when we rebuild them, but there's no such thing for the big classic cars so we use Penrite. Its time consuming to install as it moves very slowly. I get it from Restoration Supply Co.

How much (quantity) of the Penrite are putting in the Gemmer box? Filling till she's full?

Thanks.

Mike V. Florida · 08-20-2010, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tacoma Bob

I was the poster Bruce. Will keep you updated on the leakage. Mine was so bad I actually pop riveted a small bread pan to the engine splash pan under the box. The penrite literature mentions stopping leaks as an additional benefit. Will let you know.

What's wrong that it leaks so bad?
With mine, I replaced the wire bale holder with the tube type and installed the external o ring on the sector shaft no more leaks in 8 years.

Patrick L. · 08-21-2010, 05:48 AM

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the man said he was using an F100 steering box.. Restoration Supply Co also has Lubriplate in 1000W and 1500W..

Tacoma Bob · 08-23-2010, 10:37 AM

Well, a week after adding Penrite to my F-100 steering box I see no leaks. i used the car this past Saturday for a wedding. It was great as I put 60 miles or better on the car on wonderful country roads with lots of curves and turns. I feel like I'm now driving the car instead of it driving me.

John Butts in CT · 08-23-2010, 11:15 AM

Are you using the LUB009 or the LUB027? Thanks.

jiffy · 08-23-2010, 04:02 PM

Penrite.com

skip · 08-23-2010, 09:45 PM

Steering Box
Lube PENRITE

Approximately 1200W oil which will not run out of your steering box or track like grease. This is
the best lube for all non “power” steering boxes. It’s also good for enclosed U joints, engine couplers,
and other parts which require a very thick, sticky lubricant.

(500ml bottle).

LUB009 $14.60/btl
Semi Fluid
Grease
PENRITE

Penrite Semi-Fluid Grease, about 1200W, is an extreme pressure, lithium soap grease, blended
using a high viscosity base oil and effective anti-wear, rust and oxidation inhibitors. It can be used
in Veteran and Vintage gear boxes, leaky gear boxes and chain cases. Does not splash, resist leakage

and squeeze-out. Minimizes wear and shock loads Operates from 0 to 275 degrees. (500ml)

Mike Mc · 08-24-2010, 04:11 AM

1200W in a gearbox? It makes all the debate about 600W look a little tame!

Has anyone tried this in an 'A gearbox?

Cheers
Mike.

Mike V. Florida · 08-24-2010, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Mc

Has anyone tried this in an 'A gearbox?

It would not slow down the gears during double clutching, it would stop them!!

Mike Mc · 08-24-2010, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

It would not slow down the gears during double clutching, it would stop them!!

That's what I was thinking too!

1931 flamingo · 08-24-2010, 04:46 PM

Mike Mc: we're talking steeringbox here
Paul in CT

Jerry in Shasta · 08-24-2010, 05:27 PM

Google penrite And you will get a lot of info. More that you want or need.

Mike Mc · 08-24-2010, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

Mike Mc: we're talking steeringbox here
Paul in CT

True, but if you look at Skip's comment, the semi-fluid grease is suggested for vintage & veteran gear boxes.

Cheers
Mike.

Tacoma Bob · 08-26-2010, 10:06 AM

Well, checked the label and did not find a part number. Simply states "Penrite Steering Box lube approximately 1200 wt". IMHO it is neither an oil or a grease in the normal "shop" lingo. I consider it more of a gel. Almost two weeks and no noticeable leaks which is wonderful. I was able to fill the box and have almost half a bottle left. It helped to turn the wheel back and forth while putting the stuff in.

JD Miller · 09-16-2010, 08:59 AM

Penrite LUB009 Steering Box Lube. Works for me.

Drained the 600W by removing the lower plate on the two tooth steering box. Allowed the 600W to drain over-night. Reinstalled the lower plate and filled the steering box with the Penrite LUB009.

That was over three weeks ago. The car has been on the road each of the last three weekends. Temperature in the mid 90 degree range on each of the trips.

No more leaking where the sector exits the steering sector housing. The steering gear box is smooth and tight with no excess "play" in the unit. Really no need to rebuild the steering box. The Penrite sure beats tearing the steering box apart when this product will stop the leaking. Good stuff!

08-20-2010, 04:37 PM	#1
Bruce_MO Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 433	Steering lube- Penrite 1200W I saw reference today on FB that an A owner is using Penrite steering lube to eliminate leakage. It sounds like the lube is more of a gel, and if its 1200 W, it obviously is quite viscous. So I checked the Restoration Supplies catalog. In spite of new gaskets, O-ring on the sector, light rod tube, etc., I have a leak and I don't want to have to pull the steering gear and try again. It seems like it'll be a possible fix. I'm using a 600W and STP mix that's still leaking. Does anyone have any long term experience with the Penrite steering box lubricant? Would it work well in a box with needle bearings? with bushings? Thanks

08-20-2010, 05:39 PM	#2
Tacoma Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,025	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W I was the poster Bruce. Will keep you updated on the leakage. Mine was so bad I actually pop riveted a small bread pan to the engine splash pan under the box. The penrite literature mentions stopping leaks as an additional benefit. Will let you know.

08-20-2010, 07:04 PM	#3
Tom Endy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,131	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W What supplier carries it, and in what quantity? Tom Endy

08-20-2010, 10:34 PM	#5
pat in Santa Cruz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: santa cruz, calif Posts: 2,011	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W I have used it in early Lincolns and Pierce Arrows with good results. The Lincolns have Gemmer boxes, although larger than an A,the pierce has a Ross. Neither has any sort of seal. Usually on an A we replace the sector bushing with one having a seal installed when we rebuild them, but there's no such thing for the big classic cars so we use Penrite. Its time consuming to install as it moves very slowly. I get it from Restoration Supply Co.

08-21-2010, 05:48 AM	#8
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W If I'm not mistaken, I believe the man said he was using an F100 steering box.. Restoration Supply Co also has Lubriplate in 1000W and 1500W..

08-23-2010, 10:37 AM	#9
Tacoma Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,025	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Well, a week after adding Penrite to my F-100 steering box I see no leaks. i used the car this past Saturday for a wedding. It was great as I put 60 miles or better on the car on wonderful country roads with lots of curves and turns. I feel like I'm now driving the car instead of it driving me.

08-23-2010, 11:15 AM	#10
John Butts in CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southeastern Connecticut Posts: 464	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Are you using the LUB009 or the LUB027? Thanks.

08-23-2010, 04:02 PM	#11
jiffy Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 34	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Penrite.com

08-23-2010, 09:45 PM	#12
skip Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin Posts: 408	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Steering Box Lube PENRITE Approximately 1200W oil which will not run out of your steering box or track like grease. This is the best lube for all non “power” steering boxes. It’s also good for enclosed U joints, engine couplers, and other parts which require a very thick, sticky lubricant. (500ml bottle). LUB009 $14.60/btl Semi Fluid Grease PENRITE Penrite Semi-Fluid Grease, about 1200W, is an extreme pressure, lithium soap grease, blended using a high viscosity base oil and effective anti-wear, rust and oxidation inhibitors. It can be used in Veteran and Vintage gear boxes, leaky gear boxes and chain cases. Does not splash, resist leakage and squeeze-out. Minimizes wear and shock loads Operates from 0 to 275 degrees. (500ml)

08-24-2010, 04:11 AM	#13
Mike Mc Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 55	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W 1200W in a gearbox? It makes all the debate about 600W look a little tame! Has anyone tried this in an 'A gearbox? Cheers Mike.

08-24-2010, 04:46 PM	#16
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,390	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Mike Mc: we're talking steeringbox here Paul in CT

08-24-2010, 05:27 PM	#17
Jerry in Shasta Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: (Old)Shasta (Redding) CA Posts: 385	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Google penrite And you will get a lot of info. More that you want or need.

08-26-2010, 10:06 AM	#19
Tacoma Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tacoma, WA Posts: 1,025	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Well, checked the label and did not find a part number. Simply states "Penrite Steering Box lube approximately 1200 wt". IMHO it is neither an oil or a grease in the normal "shop" lingo. I consider it more of a gel. Almost two weeks and no noticeable leaks which is wonderful. I was able to fill the box and have almost half a bottle left. It helped to turn the wheel back and forth while putting the stuff in.

09-16-2010, 08:59 AM	#20
JD Miller Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 139	Re: Steering lube- Penrite 1200W Penrite LUB009 Steering Box Lube. Works for me. Drained the 600W by removing the lower plate on the two tooth steering box. Allowed the 600W to drain over-night. Reinstalled the lower plate and filled the steering box with the Penrite LUB009. That was over three weeks ago. The car has been on the road each of the last three weekends. Temperature in the mid 90 degree range on each of the trips. No more leaking where the sector exits the steering sector housing. The steering gear box is smooth and tight with no excess "play" in the unit. Really no need to rebuild the steering box. The Penrite sure beats tearing the steering box apart when this product will stop the leaking. Good stuff!