The Ford Barn

1stford · 03-08-2018, 09:46 PM

Murphy’s law got me again so I’m having to pull the motor out of my 36 truck. When I put it in I used a cherry picker that seemed to be a tad to short to reach all the way. I also used a chain with bolts from the head. My 3 questions are is there a good “engine plate” like you would use on a small block to pull it out. Is there a specific cherry picker that you guys have used that reaches well and any idea where to get a flat head engine stand.

Thanks.

AlexLohmann1 · 03-08-2018, 09:50 PM

If someone has a chain hoist or loader in the area they're really helpful when trying to pull the engine out. The engine stand I use is one that rotates 360°. I can share a link to a similar one. And I think I answered all questions.

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AlexLohmann1 · 03-08-2018, 09:51 PM

Oh to lift it out we used bolts and a small chain on the chain hoist or loader to lift it out of the car.

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AlexLohmann1 · 03-08-2018, 10:01 PM

House of fab on ford barn has the flathead engine mount that goes in the rotating engine stand. Not sure where the one my buddy has came from.

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RalphM · 03-08-2018, 11:38 PM

I made a simple flat plate from an intake gasket, with a verticle center piece with three large holes in center to hoist by, depending on balance which hole you use. Can use hook from hoist direct, eliminating chain.

RalphM · 03-08-2018, 11:41 PM

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Kinda like this.

chap52 · 03-09-2018, 08:06 AM

When I pulled the tranny out of my truck I wanted to bring it out from the top but being an old man with a trashed back I wanted to use my engine hoist. The arm was not long enough to make that idea work. I went to the medal supply store and got a piece of 2"x2" thick walled square steel tubing that I could insert into the arm on my hoist.. (They actually gave it to me.) Drilled it, slipped it into the end of the hoist arm, pinned it in place and thus ended up with the extra 6" of reach I needed. It was a snug fit and worked great.
Of course there are weight limit and safety concerns, but if you just need a few inches of reach this may work for you.

john in illinois · 03-09-2018, 08:30 AM

That is what I did. I made a new arm longer so it reached out to the end of hoist legs. I usually leave it stock length unless I need more reach.

John

RKS.PA · 03-09-2018, 08:37 AM

I had a similar problem with my shop crane being a "little to short" to get my rebuilt block back in my '47. It was a 1.5 ton I bought years ago back in PA. It worked fine for my '39 but the '47 needed a longer reach. Not sure where you are, 1st, but I found a 2 ton on sale here at Pep Boys in Marana AZ that had just the right amount of reach.

I also use an adjustable leveling plate bolted to the top of the block that lets me change the angle during the install....very happy with it and think I found it on line.

Good luck....Dick.

JSeery · 03-09-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by chap52

The arm was not long enough to make that idea work. I went to the medal supply store and got a piece of 2"x2" thick walled square steel tubing that I could insert into the arm on my hoist.. Drilled it, slipped it into the end of the hoist arm, pinned it in place and thus ended up with the extra 6" of reach I needed.

Just need to make sure that the added length of the lifting arm is inside the length of the legs. If the arm length exceeds the leg length there is a very good chance the whole lift will tip over forward.

chap52 · 03-09-2018, 09:45 AM

Mine goes into hoist arm and is secured with the original pin. Then the end of the hoist arm slips over the extension and is secured with a bolt.
I tried to attach photos and couldn't them to upload???

32phil · 03-09-2018, 10:08 AM

I made a flat plate out of 1/2'' aluminum to bolt in place of the intake manifold. I put some brackets on it to mount my engine leveler. Now I can pick the engine up or drop it in at any angle just by turning the crank on the leveler.

Mart · 03-15-2018, 03:09 AM

I bought one of those load leveller jobs. It has four chains with angle braclkets. I remove 4 manifold bolts, insert longer bolts (no need to tighten them) and the cherrypicker lifts the whole lot out no problem. I slightly lengthened the chains so I could pull the roadster motor with high rise thickstun and twin carbs still intact. You can cheat the cherrypicker a little bit for extra reach but don't overdo it.

Mart.

DD931 · 03-15-2018, 04:17 PM

I have one of he leveling devices mentioned by Mart. I think it was cheap at Harbor Freight and works great!!

1stford · 05-25-2018, 06:50 PM

I’ve confirmed that the engine has to come out. Wanted to leave front fenders on and needed best advice for removal as to do zero scratching.

Thanks in advance.

RKS.PA · 05-26-2018, 10:52 AM

Shouldn't have to remove fenders....what an extra pain!!!. I use old moving pads on the fenders and am "really" careful on the way out and on the way back in.

Since I'm not sure where you are located, it's hard to recommend a local source for your engine stand and shop crane in your initial post. Stumpy's Fab Works has a very nice engine stand adapter plate for flatheads that is used with a regular stand. My machine shop, however, bolted my 59AB block directly to their conventional engine stand with no adverse results!!!

outlaw · 05-26-2018, 10:59 AM

The motor plate that I made.

03-08-2018, 09:46 PM	#1
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	Pulling an engine Murphy’s law got me again so I’m having to pull the motor out of my 36 truck. When I put it in I used a cherry picker that seemed to be a tad to short to reach all the way. I also used a chain with bolts from the head. My 3 questions are is there a good “engine plate” like you would use on a small block to pull it out. Is there a specific cherry picker that you guys have used that reaches well and any idea where to get a flat head engine stand. Thanks.

03-08-2018, 09:50 PM	#2
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: Pulling an engine If someone has a chain hoist or loader in the area they're really helpful when trying to pull the engine out. The engine stand I use is one that rotates 360°. I can share a link to a similar one. And I think I answered all questions. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

03-08-2018, 09:51 PM	#3
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: Pulling an engine Oh to lift it out we used bolts and a small chain on the chain hoist or loader to lift it out of the car. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

03-08-2018, 10:01 PM	#4
AlexLohmann1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 230	Re: Pulling an engine House of fab on ford barn has the flathead engine mount that goes in the rotating engine stand. Not sure where the one my buddy has came from. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

03-08-2018, 11:38 PM	#5
RalphM Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: North Pole, Alaska Posts: 2,651	Re: Pulling an engine I made a simple flat plate from an intake gasket, with a verticle center piece with three large holes in center to hoist by, depending on balance which hole you use. Can use hook from hoist direct, eliminating chain.

03-09-2018, 08:06 AM	#7
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,776	Re: Pulling an engine When I pulled the tranny out of my truck I wanted to bring it out from the top but being an old man with a trashed back I wanted to use my engine hoist. The arm was not long enough to make that idea work. I went to the medal supply store and got a piece of 2"x2" thick walled square steel tubing that I could insert into the arm on my hoist.. (They actually gave it to me.) Drilled it, slipped it into the end of the hoist arm, pinned it in place and thus ended up with the extra 6" of reach I needed. It was a snug fit and worked great. Of course there are weight limit and safety concerns, but if you just need a few inches of reach this may work for you.

03-09-2018, 08:30 AM	#8
john in illinois Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,184	Re: Pulling an engine That is what I did. I made a new arm longer so it reached out to the end of hoist legs. I usually leave it stock length unless I need more reach. John

03-09-2018, 08:37 AM	#9
RKS.PA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marana, AZ Posts: 1,194	Re: Pulling an engine I had a similar problem with my shop crane being a "little to short" to get my rebuilt block back in my '47. It was a 1.5 ton I bought years ago back in PA. It worked fine for my '39 but the '47 needed a longer reach. Not sure where you are, 1st, but I found a 2 ton on sale here at Pep Boys in Marana AZ that had just the right amount of reach. I also use an adjustable leveling plate bolted to the top of the block that lets me change the angle during the install....very happy with it and think I found it on line. Good luck....Dick.

03-09-2018, 09:45 AM	#11
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,776	Re: Pulling an engine Mine goes into hoist arm and is secured with the original pin. Then the end of the hoist arm slips over the extension and is secured with a bolt. I tried to attach photos and couldn't them to upload???

03-09-2018, 10:08 AM	#12
32phil Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Montgomery, NY & Port St. Lucie Florida Posts: 936	Re: Pulling an engine I made a flat plate out of 1/2'' aluminum to bolt in place of the intake manifold. I put some brackets on it to mount my engine leveler. Now I can pick the engine up or drop it in at any angle just by turning the crank on the leveler. __________________ Early Ford Lock & Key Service https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46583

03-15-2018, 03:09 AM	#13
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,749	Re: Pulling an engine I bought one of those load leveller jobs. It has four chains with angle braclkets. I remove 4 manifold bolts, insert longer bolts (no need to tighten them) and the cherrypicker lifts the whole lot out no problem. I slightly lengthened the chains so I could pull the roadster motor with high rise thickstun and twin carbs still intact. You can cheat the cherrypicker a little bit for extra reach but don't overdo it. Mart.

03-15-2018, 04:17 PM	#14
DD931 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PA Poconos Posts: 723	Re: Pulling an engine I have one of he leveling devices mentioned by Mart. I think it was cheap at Harbor Freight and works great!!

05-25-2018, 06:50 PM	#15
1stford Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 274	Re: Pulling an engine I’ve confirmed that the engine has to come out. Wanted to leave front fenders on and needed best advice for removal as to do zero scratching. Thanks in advance.

05-26-2018, 10:52 AM	#16
RKS.PA Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Marana, AZ Posts: 1,194	Re: Pulling an engine Shouldn't have to remove fenders....what an extra pain!!!. I use old moving pads on the fenders and am "really" careful on the way out and on the way back in. Since I'm not sure where you are located, it's hard to recommend a local source for your engine stand and shop crane in your initial post. Stumpy's Fab Works has a very nice engine stand adapter plate for flatheads that is used with a regular stand. My machine shop, however, bolted my 59AB block directly to their conventional engine stand with no adverse results!!!