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07-19-2018, 01:01 PM | #1 |
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Sellers throwing away good parts
I noticed a recent ad where a seller decided to throw away what appeared to be usable parts because he did not get his asking price. Would it not have been better to donate to a local club or offer free for the taking?
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Shouldn’t throw anything away.
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if his asking price was in the stratosphere typical I cant sell $1 for $5 I will just scrap it for 50 cents or less that will show them.much like the hoarders who are going to restore it one day.hard to deal with that mindset
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Some people are just knuckleheads - period!
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07-19-2018, 03:01 PM | #5 |
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Let me see if I understand him. He has spent money on a part, stored it, taking up space and now no longer needs it. People need parts to fix their cars and would have to spend money on the same part someplace elsewhere. Why should he give them away? If the parts are worth something then something should be paid and if nobody wants to pay then they are worthless and should be thrown away.
At least that is what I think he is thinking. Is he correct, I don't think so but like hot rodding A's, they are his to do with what he wants.
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i agree with Kudzuviper, ive had stuff in the past that was either to rough for my use (couldn't sell) that i gave to a young kid trying to build one on a budget. Turns out he was more than greatful and has helped me out changing motors and such.
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While I won't actually throw much away,I know exactly how the guy feels.I have something really worth $100,ask $100 or $75,and get a barrage of insulting people making stupid offers.In the late 70's I saw a junkyard owner pick up a Pinto and set it on some stands so somebody could take the brand new exhaust system off.He laid the parts out on the ground and asked the yard owner how much.He said $7.The guy actually had the grapes to offer him $5.The owner said,sure gimmee five.The guy jumped up on the loader,paid him,and when he jumped back down the yard owner put the loader in gear and drove right over the exhaust parts.He hollered out the window,now that's a $5.exhaust system,and drove off.
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07-19-2018, 07:15 PM | #9 |
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I somewhat agree with what has been said above, but my take is keep your mouth shut and don't come bragging on here. Just get rid of the stuff. While maybe you have X invested somewhere in the past I understand, but you have to also look at what the current market is, if you are way over then ether sell for current or hold on and hope there is an upswing.
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Now the yard owner has a $0 profit and cant ever get anything but about $0.50 for it flattened and the buyer walks away empty handed never to return and spreads bad word around thinking the guys a moron. If the junkyard guy would be that insulted over $9 maybe he should of asked more for it. Sure it gets annoying people trying to lowball you when selling something. Try selling a vehicle on craigslist you get stupid offers all day (hence never leave your phone number - leave email then respond and give your number to people who sound reasonable/legit). but its easy to ignore them or reply its not Throwing away something to make zero profit on it is stupid as heck and what are you trying to prove and to whom? When I price something I look up what they are selling for (never asking prices) in a given condition. I think what is the absolute least I would take, then ask for more but still in the realm of reasonable near what they are selling for. If we agree on more than my mental minimum I win, if we settle at my mental bottom price I still win because that's what I felt it was worth and I don't have to store it anymore and money in my pocket.
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He set his price at $7.because he knew a new system was about $70.He figured ten cents on the dollar was a cheap price.A lot of junkyard pricing then was half price of new.Not for everything,but for most parts you could carry.His parts were always priced right,but once in a while he would get somebody who thought he would chisel down the bargain price some more.He would do something like that every couple of years,and it would remind everybody he wouldn't tolerate insulting offers.He said it was a cheap way of getting the word out.I remember him asking a guy if he had any friends,when the guy answered yes he said to tell them he didn't want them in his shop either.I always found him to be a great guy to deal with.He had all the business than he could handle until he died.
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I hate people that try to beat you down they have a choice either yes or no I have torn up some good stuff in front of them to let them know I won't be beat down stupid probably but it made me feel good
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I just wish he would throw the stuff my way.
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I've watched buyers at swap meets wait around the garbage can on the last day,hoping a vendor pitches what doesn't sell.
I work with a guy who's dad was a founding member of the local club,he has out buildings full of A parts,he estimates he has 100 A fenders,some NOS in his moms rafters that his father got buying out dealership stock in the 50's.. but he wont part with a thing..and he doesn't like model A's. I used to think every car should be saved,that it only makes sense,they don't make them anymore..now I just care about my car, here's to you doing the same with yours. |
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I agree, at least ask if he would entertain a lower price before insulting him. Does anyone think a junk yard would take a car, put it up on blocks on demand, wait for the work to be done, then move the car back on the pile for 30 bucks, and then be offered $21.00?
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07-19-2018, 10:39 PM | #17 | |
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Tell the guy how much you are willing to pay and to keep you in mind when the old man "moves on".
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Ok I have to ask, has the post been removed? I don't see anything.
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I think some people will use scare tactics and not really scrap or throw the parts away. JMHO
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I have to chime in here as I have a problem right now. I rebuilt a 6 cylinder motor for a 1930 Willys with the idea that I would use it. Instead I ended up selling the car and the buyer did not want the extra motor, so now I have been trying to get rid of the motor and no one where I have advertised it wants it. So what to do ? It's certainly worth more than scrap metal and I would make a deal with anyone that could use it but so far no takers. Price is not an issue for me, I just want someone to take it and use it. Jack
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everyone wants a deal, you don't offer a cheaper price when you try to buy something i do, if the guy won't come down. and i need it i will pay up. but to tare up something or destroy it is stupid . so if a guy would not give me 30 grand my Roadster, im gonna cut it up! real smart
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I had a Garage Sale, ONCE ONLY.
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Bill you are right, to a point in my OP. Why rub it in everyones face that looks at an ad or posting? I have seen posting here before about guys that only wanted to sell everything at once and when there were no buyers because they did not want to deal with selling piece by piece, told how they sold it all for scrap. When there are postings like that it becomes everyones business because it is now out on a public forum. Heck I have scrapped stuff too, but I am not going to come on here and talk about it, because as you said, it is nobodies business but mine.
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If you read my post the answer is there. Why should the other person gain use of the parts and "profit" from them and the original owner loses money.
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In reviewing some of my used parts purchases, for some of the parts, it would have been best had the seller thrown them away!
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When we have a garage sale, the leftover stuff is either packed up for another sale, or if it has already been on 2 or 3 sales, and not sold it will be donated to Goodwill or Salvation Army. If it is so bad that even those places couldn't sell it we trash it. Of course I am talking mostly household items, not car parts.
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so if you buy your car for 10 grand and a guy offers you 7 grand you are gonna take a sledgehammer to your car, its the same thing, real smart
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If someone buys a car for 10 grand and is only offered 10 dollars then yea, I think they would junk it. They are out the money all the same. This is now the third and last time I will try to explain it to you.
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My this thread is getting rough.
The behavior being described here is simply infantile and small minded. Sure if you own something you can do whatever you want. Seems tho, few people can overcome that millennial attitude of me first and donate unsellable parts to a worthwhile cause, such as a kid trying to make something of a build. I was taught to think of others before myself, so I cannot get on the bandwagon of justifying this guy's behavior. Clearly others here have been taught differently. Do you want to be remembered as selfish and ego-centric? |
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The few times I sell the odd part on $bay I'm always plagued by folks "winning" the large item that states "collect only" asking for postage pricing only to become miffed when I won't post
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I run into this all the time. they're not kidding. Someone threw away rebuilt engines & stuff for lack of buyers.
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I think maybe we all have to grow up a little and realize that the elements to a deal are basically adversarial. Like diplomacy, you must zig when he zags. I've sold a lot of stuff In my time and there are always two sides to an argument or a deal. Clearly, you can't make the buyer feel like a jerk whose being taken advantage of. you can say I want $X for it when he can buy it for less just steps away, and 99 times out of 100, that's just what he'll do. No where does it say he's responsible for your ego strokes. Ideally, you both go away feeling good about the deal. When buying, I probe the sellers price. As soon as the word "Firm" is spoken, I walk away. The guy's an amateur and will probably get mad if I don't pay his stupidly high price or be insulted because I had the temerity to offer less. Screw him, let him go sell it on CL or ebay. Selling presents a new situation with new problems. There is one tactic which I hate, The Double Chisel! You're selling a widget. some wear, but not bad. This optimist calls you up and probes you on the phone, "Would you take $X for it?" Yeah, sure! Come on over! He arrives! "So you want $X for it, I'll give you $Y" Needless to say, $Y is a lot less than $X! I refuse to discuss prices on the phone! Also, Familiarize yourself with loan companies and their apps. When holding up your end (The price) and he starts talking like "All I could get was $X, whip out a Household Finance (Or other) app and tell him that they're really nice folks down there and they'd love to put you on.They either come up with cash or walk away. It's a game! Don't get mad! How about this? I was working with my friend Ritchie one time and this Dude pulls up in a big, white caddy, with a blonde, gold neck and wrist chains and $20,000 in a wad of cash in his shirt pocket! Devastating! He was there to buy! It was a hot day so he left the car running to keep the AC on for the Blonde while he negotiated. His tactic was to fog your brain with all that cash and trinkets while he gutted your price. Every one says not me! But it worked just enough to keep mr Dude in gas and blondes. Big Billitis
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Our museum has a yearly garage sale and I have directed the staff to sell everything. If a buyer picks up an item he/she is showing interest. Prices will be negotiated until that item leaves with the buyer! We do lots of nickel dime selling but usually end with an eight hundred dollar gain for the museum.
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I had 5 model a engine blocks all hot tanked and magged for cracks. I brought them to a number of swaps and no body wanted them . I tried to give them away for free and only one went for free because it was a 28 with extra bearing for cam. I scrapped them along with hard chrome and ground cranks . It’s a shame but how long can you store something nobody wants.
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Something has changed in the last 10 years or so with selling stuff.I think people are reading postings by anybody and everybody telling them how it is done.I just had somebody leave in a huff that came to look at a Model A coupe I am selling.His attitude on the phone told me it was going to be a waste of time.I thoroughly described the car,and told him that the owners price was firm and not open to offers.I made it very clear to him that no matter what he thought he wanted to pay the price was the price.He said,we'll see about that,I have hundred dollar bills.I had to tell him if he didn't have 150 of them don't make the trip.He got mad because I wasn't impressed at the sight of 80 of them flashing at me.He said,you'll be calling me.I said if I don't sell it in 4 or 5 years I'll call you back.
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I once worked for a fellow that had the word "discount" in the name of his business. He had the lowest prices in the region and did a high volume of sales, but seemed to attract a pushy clientele with the worst manners. When I commented on the latter, he told me that it was his observation that, "when the price is cheap, the customer has no conscience". I puzzled over this for a long time, but have found it to be true.
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I used to be a lot more flexible with selling stuff,but it seems like just plain manners have gone out the window.It really has gotten much easier now I make it clear before they come over that the price is firm,I have an old friend that has sold used cars all his life.his son is working with him now,and is doing the very thing his dad and I whine so much about.He looks at car ads,and if an ad is for $1000,he'll email back,give ya $300.cash today.His dad doesn't like it much but he says for every hundred or so ads he responds to he gets 10 or 15 that take him up on it.One thing he does do that others like him don't,is the truck goes out with the money and comes back with the car.No matter what shape it is in,he made the offer sight unseen and stands by it.He says he may have gotten robbed on a dozen or so,but made up for it on a few hundred others.
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