The Ford Barn

tubman · 03-15-2020, 01:38 PM

Yep, me too. I went out, opened the trunk, and checked out the spare in my '51. Sure enough, the valve was in the wrong spot. I rotated it until I had the valve on the top and feel much better now,

mercman from oz · 03-15-2020, 04:31 PM

Correct position of Valve

Congratulations GaryU in correcting the wheel on your wall so that the Valve is at the top. The reason why I started this Thread is to try and educate owners of these early Fords, (and later) of the correct way to mount their spare wheels. Slowly, I think that the message is getting through. Next time you go to an event with Early Ford V8's, check them out and see and see if the message is getting through?

mercman from oz · 03-16-2020, 04:55 PM

Display of Tyres and Wheels at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum, Auburn Indiana. This photo was taken before the Extensions. You can see that the Vales in most are located at the bottom. Maybe, like GaryU, they need to take a look at how they are displayed in their new display area, and if necessary, re-position them so that the Valves are displayed at the top?

Tinker · 03-16-2020, 08:55 PM

Mercman, I looked at my 36. Yes the valve stem is on top. Haven't removed the spare tire shell and hub lock again to see if it's keyed. I'm guessing on the 36 you are right on. Other yrs might be different. The 38 truck does not care, earlier ford might not. But on the 36 full spare shield, that might be true.

mercman from oz · 03-17-2020, 06:34 PM

Nice 1932 Ford Sedan with fender mounted spare wheel. Note that the Valve is in the incorrect position. This is probably the only area on an otherwise very nice restoration that is not "as Henry built it".

mercman from oz · 03-19-2020, 01:15 AM

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mercman from oz · 03-19-2020, 10:07 PM

This Wire Wheel, complete with Locking Hubcap and Strap is on display at the Early Ford Foundation Museum in auburn Indiana. The only problem is that the hole for the Valve should be mounted at the top, and everything would be perfect.
I just hope that Owners and Custodians of 1932 to 1935 Fords are taking notice of the comments and pictures in this Thread, otherwise, I am wasting my time?
I would love to attend an Early Ford V8 Event and see that the Valves on the Spare Wheels of these models are all correctly located at the top. Nothing would please me better. Mission accomplished.

DavidG · 03-20-2020, 06:29 AM

Perhaps a greater sin, given the location, is that it is not a Ford original equipment wheel. That plus what appears to be two different model year components (trim ring - '35 plus and locking hubcap - '34). In any event, I think you have made your point.

mercman from oz · 03-20-2020, 06:33 PM

I hope that someone reading this Thread takes the time to rotate this wheel that is on display at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum in Auburn, Indiana so that the Valve is at the top.
Now that everyone is grounded by this Corona Virus, it is time for 1932 to 1935 Ford Owners to check their Spare Wheels to see if the Valve is positioned at the top. If it is not, it is a good opportunity to correct it, now that most people have to remain at home and restrict travel. i hope that this message is getting through?

VeryTangled · 03-20-2020, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidG

In any event, I think you have made your point.

Bless you Trevor. Shamefully I'll be fixing my two cars before they go out in public again. And bless your life partner.

God willing we'll meet again and I'll be up for a big fun dinner on me for your and your party! (Forewarned that JM35 will probably be involved.) Dearborn was a blast but we shall see what waits for the next V-8 Grand National! I don't think we're going back to the same hotel?!?

mercman from oz · 03-21-2020, 07:27 AM

1935 Ford Fordor Touring Sedan with the Valve in the incorrect position? Now that a big proportion of the population is in home isolation, hopefully the owner will have time to correct this problem ready for the next Early Ford V8 event.
Slowly, by slowly, I hope that this message is getting through to owners of 1932-1935 Fords.

35fordtn · 03-21-2020, 02:24 PM

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VeryTangled · 03-21-2020, 05:39 PM

Post 71 is my car on the day I drug it home 3 years ago.

There was a receipt for five new tires in the glove box. It was dated 1984. That spare tire had never seen pavement to the point when it was replaced... So I'm pretty sure that valve stem was at 10 O'clock for about 33+ years.

DavidG · 03-21-2020, 07:01 PM

Trevor,
You seem to be missing a larger issue given that the majority of the photos of spare tires that you have posted have the incorrect (non-original) valve stems. That suggests all five (or six in some cases) inner tubes have the wrong valve stems. Doesn't that make that "error" five or six times more important than the clocking of the spare wheel mounting?

ford38v8 · 03-21-2020, 07:42 PM

I don't wish to trivialize the issue, but the old rule about not saying NEVER should apply here due to the physical ability to get it wrong at the factory and/or at the dealership before delivery. If a Judge at a Meet were to make a deduction for that, I'd think it should rightfully be contested. Such things should be noted on judging sheets for informational purposes, but without deductions made.
Again not to trivialize, I commend and applaud the catch by Mercman to educate the rest of us, as this sort of help is exactly why the Barn exists and flourishes.

VeryTangled · 03-21-2020, 09:30 PM

And being a Judge at a V-8 National meet carries a wee bit of pressure to be the lawman in town on that particular day.

VeryTangled · 03-21-2020, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 35fordtn

4 pages about a valve stem location.. I'm seriously thinking of incorrectly mounting mine..

You rebel you! Bad boy in da house!

koates · 03-21-2020, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidG

Trevor,
You seem to be missing a larger issue given that the majority of the photos of spare tires that you have posted have the incorrect (non-original) valve stems. That suggests all five (or six in some cases) inner tubes have the wrong valve stems. Doesn't that make that "error" five or six times more important than the clocking of the spare wheel mounting?

David, I would think that most early Ford cars in Australia at least have the modern rubber valve stems fitted because of the difficulty and cost involved in procuring the metal Schrader ones. So not really an issue for most owners and restorers of these vehicles. Having the correct original type shiny nickel valve stems is less important than the bottom of the spare wheel hub rusting out. Regards, Kevin.

koates · 03-21-2020, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 35fordtn

4 pages about a valve stem location.. I'm seriously thinking of incorrectly mounting mine..

Michael, well if it wasn't for the fact that we are all self isolating at home because of the you know what virus then we would only have one page of this information. Keep those hubs rusting. Regards, Kevin.

35fordtn · 03-21-2020, 11:30 PM

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03-15-2020, 01:38 PM	#61
tubman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Minnesota, Florida Keys Posts: 10,303	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Yep, me too. I went out, opened the trunk, and checked out the spare in my '51. Sure enough, the valve was in the wrong spot. I rotated it until I had the valve on the top and feel much better now,

03-15-2020, 04:31 PM	#62
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Correct position of Valve Congratulations GaryU in correcting the wheel on your wall so that the Valve is at the top. The reason why I started this Thread is to try and educate owners of these early Fords, (and later) of the correct way to mount their spare wheels. Slowly, I think that the message is getting through. Next time you go to an event with Early Ford V8's, check them out and see and see if the message is getting through?

03-16-2020, 04:55 PM	#63
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Display of Tyres and Wheels at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum, Auburn Indiana. This photo was taken before the Extensions. You can see that the Vales in most are located at the bottom. Maybe, like GaryU, they need to take a look at how they are displayed in their new display area, and if necessary, re-position them so that the Valves are displayed at the top?

03-16-2020, 08:55 PM	#64
Tinker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: MN Posts: 7,053	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Mercman, I looked at my 36. Yes the valve stem is on top. Haven't removed the spare tire shell and hub lock again to see if it's keyed. I'm guessing on the 36 you are right on. Other yrs might be different. The 38 truck does not care, earlier ford might not. But on the 36 full spare shield, that might be true.

03-17-2020, 06:34 PM	#65
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Nice 1932 Ford Sedan with fender mounted spare wheel. Note that the Valve is in the incorrect position. This is probably the only area on an otherwise very nice restoration that is not "as Henry built it".

03-19-2020, 01:15 AM	#66
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) 1932 Ford Roadster with the Valve on the Spare Wheel one position out?

03-19-2020, 10:07 PM	#67
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords This Wire Wheel, complete with Locking Hubcap and Strap is on display at the Early Ford Foundation Museum in auburn Indiana. The only problem is that the hole for the Valve should be mounted at the top, and everything would be perfect. I just hope that Owners and Custodians of 1932 to 1935 Fords are taking notice of the comments and pictures in this Thread, otherwise, I am wasting my time? I would love to attend an Early Ford V8 Event and see that the Valves on the Spare Wheels of these models are all correctly located at the top. Nothing would please me better. Mission accomplished.

03-20-2020, 06:29 AM	#68
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Perhaps a greater sin, given the location, is that it is not a Ford original equipment wheel. That plus what appears to be two different model year components (trim ring - '35 plus and locking hubcap - '34). In any event, I think you have made your point.

03-20-2020, 06:33 PM	#69
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords I hope that someone reading this Thread takes the time to rotate this wheel that is on display at the Early Ford V8 Foundation Museum in Auburn, Indiana so that the Valve is at the top. Now that everyone is grounded by this Corona Virus, it is time for 1932 to 1935 Ford Owners to check their Spare Wheels to see if the Valve is positioned at the top. If it is not, it is a good opportunity to correct it, now that most people have to remain at home and restrict travel. i hope that this message is getting through?

03-21-2020, 07:27 AM	#71
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,361	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords 1935 Ford Fordor Touring Sedan with the Valve in the incorrect position? Now that a big proportion of the population is in home isolation, hopefully the owner will have time to correct this problem ready for the next Early Ford V8 event. Slowly, by slowly, I hope that this message is getting through to owners of 1932-1935 Fords.

03-21-2020, 02:24 PM	#72
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords deleted Last edited by 35fordtn; 03-21-2020 at 11:54 PM.

03-21-2020, 05:39 PM	#73
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Post 71 is my car on the day I drug it home 3 years ago. There was a receipt for five new tires in the glove box. It was dated 1984. That spare tire had never seen pavement to the point when it was replaced... So I'm pretty sure that valve stem was at 10 O'clock for about 33+ years. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

03-21-2020, 07:01 PM	#74
DavidG Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: southeastern Michigan Posts: 10,094	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Trevor, You seem to be missing a larger issue given that the majority of the photos of spare tires that you have posted have the incorrect (non-original) valve stems. That suggests all five (or six in some cases) inner tubes have the wrong valve stems. Doesn't that make that "error" five or six times more important than the clocking of the spare wheel mounting?

03-21-2020, 07:42 PM	#75
ford38v8 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 6,635	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords I don't wish to trivialize the issue, but the old rule about not saying NEVER should apply here due to the physical ability to get it wrong at the factory and/or at the dealership before delivery. If a Judge at a Meet were to make a deduction for that, I'd think it should rightfully be contested. Such things should be noted on judging sheets for informational purposes, but without deductions made. Again not to trivialize, I commend and applaud the catch by Mercman to educate the rest of us, as this sort of help is exactly why the Barn exists and flourishes. __________________ Alan

03-21-2020, 09:30 PM	#76
VeryTangled Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: (Not far enough...) Outside of DC Posts: 3,387	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords And being a Judge at a V-8 National meet carries a wee bit of pressure to be the lawman in town on that particular day. __________________ -Jeff H Have you thought about supporting the Early Ford V-8 Foundation Museum?

03-21-2020, 11:30 PM	#80
35fordtn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: McMinnville, TN Posts: 2,327	Re: Incorrectly mounted Spare Wheels on 1932-1935 Fords Deleted Last edited by 35fordtn; 03-21-2020 at 11:55 PM.