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Old 10-02-2019, 04:59 PM   #1
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Default Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!! UPDATED!!

Sorry for screaming it out but I just got a "raised" deck flathead this afternoon. It was on C-List for the last few weeks and I talked to the auto recycle yard owner 2 weeks ago when he told me someone was going to buy it. Kept seeing it for sale and finally called again, deal fell through of course. Had a felling so offered a hundred for it which he accepted. When getting it today I noticed the missing spark plugs and the water around the holes. Got it home and found it turns over, all pistons working. Pulled intake and found lots of water in lifter valley, drain plug was loose, no oil just water, enough to fill 1/2 a paint tray. Looking for suggestions for what to do next, I don't have time for a few days so can't pull it all apart yet. The yard owner said some young guys brought it in and he had no idea where they got it from and yes it did rain 4 1/2 inches last night which explains the water. I'll try to post pics later if possible. GaryU.

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Old 10-02-2019, 06:05 PM   #2
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!!

tear it down, vat it, check for cracks, bore size check
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:23 PM   #3
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The Woodie man nailed it.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:08 PM   #4
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!!

Every time I see "raised deck" flathead I laugh. There is nothing "RAISED". Some castings in the 1938-1940 production had a "VOID" of metal around the area of the intake ports. After machining it may appear that the port is higher but it is NOT. The intake manifold/valley cover is in exactly the same position as other flatheads. Stop the insanity. lol
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:14 PM   #5
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!!

Here's some pics. Looks worse because of the atf/acetone combination I applied liberally before I realized how much water there was. Not a Mercury block and will measure it tomorrow to check if sleeves were removed. Think I got there before it was toast, have used a lot of paper towels to get as much liquid out. Think I'll have to get the rest apart tomorrow night.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:17 PM   #6
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Hey Barn that's why I posted "RAISED DECK" in italics. LOL.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:23 PM   #7
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!!

dont let it sit drown it in WD40 or similar or even drop into a 44 or similar full of diesel just " dont" let the air at it untill you can do something with it
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:03 PM   #8
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A baseball bat blank cut into the 1/3’s and a BFH are the perfect ram for removing stuck pistons.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:17 PM   #9
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Nothings stuck, it should be an easy disassembly. Guess tomorrow night will be the time, my daughter turned 16 today so family time for me.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:28 PM   #10
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WD40, (Water Displacement).
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:42 PM   #11
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If it has any "ring groove" in the cylinders, cut or hone them out before removing pistons. Otherwise you may break the lands on the pistons.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:14 AM   #12
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Water obviously hasn’t been in too long, note the absence of rust.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:50 PM   #13
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More progress this afternoon into dinner time. Have all the pistons out, crankshaft and oil pump removed. Initial measurements show the bore is STANDARD, mains and connecting rods on crankshaft are STANDARD. No brand on pistons and obvious signs that this was rebuilt at one time. Think I got it just in time to get rid of all the moisture, bottoms of some lifters are rusty as well as some camshaft lobes. Aluminum timing gear, will be getting to valve train next week, lots of WD-40 and other lubes applied. Maybe the Flathead God's are in my favor.
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Old 10-03-2019, 07:04 PM   #14
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!! UPDATED!!

Looks fairly good inside.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:10 PM   #15
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you should be keeping track of the bearing placement, they may be reusable.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:49 PM   #16
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I marked them on the backside and pistons on the tops.
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:05 PM   #17
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!! UPDATED!!

Happy Birthday to your daughter!

That looks like a heck of a deal for $100 ESPECIALLY is the crank and bore is STD.

The engine in my 1933 Avatar was deemed for the scrap yard. I did nothing to it except put
the correct aluminum heads on it, painted it and have run it many hundreds of miles since.

Makes you wonder how many good Ford parts are scraped daily throughout the country. Thoughts like this make me lose sleep at night.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:12 PM   #18
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Default Re: Trying to save a "raised deck" v-8 !!!!!!! UPDATED!!

Yep, you might of caught it at the right time at the scrap yard. Looks like it wasn't outside that long.

All in what you need. Maybe rebuild, maybe run it. Many get into the good intention trap of redoing something only to let it sit forever.


If you are going to machine it. Maybe leave another bore for the next guy.


Looks like you might have a nice one!


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Old 10-04-2019, 06:14 AM   #19
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Nice score, I like Fluid Film for rust protection seems to do a good job.
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Old 10-04-2019, 07:13 AM   #20
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Great score!
Another one saved.
I, like 35fordtn and others I'm sure lose sleep wondering how many good parts are scraped daily.
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