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Old_Skates · 08-02-2012, 10:14 AM

I'm removing the valves from a '30 engine. The guides for 6 valves were no problem pushing out with a little tap of a hammer and a blade screwdriver. But for two of the valves, they won't push through. I've tried using a punch and giving them some 'reasonable' hits with a hammer to get them to move but no luck. With the valve still in so it's tough to enough downward force. I was thinking I'll have to cut off the bottom of the valve (mushroom) to pull it up through the block. That will allow me to use more direct downward force to push them out.

Any ideas would be appreciated (or is cutting the valve a bad idea)

CarlG · 08-02-2012, 10:25 AM

The vendors have a tool to do that. Here's the description from Snyder's catalog:

Valve Guide Tool

This hardened steel driver is a quality reproduction of a K.R. Wilson tool. It provides easy removal of the most stubborn guides. Complete with instructions. U.S.A.
A-6500-VGT 1928-34 $15.95 / ea

KR500 · 08-02-2012, 11:22 AM

Had a similar problem with a guide(original 2 piece and mushroom valve). Ended up cutting the valve with a grinder and drilling out the guide progressively to 1/2 diameter and then driving out what was left. Can't figure how a guide can get this tight in a block. Didn't want to continue beating on a guide that with a enough force might crack the valve guide area of the block.

Old_Skates · 08-02-2012, 12:35 PM

okay thanks, the tool looks like it'll do the trick. I'll give it a try.

Bruce Lancaster · 08-06-2012, 10:25 AM

This is one of those posts illustrating why it is good to have a general geographical location noted in your information here...betcha there are 10 members with the right tool and knowledge near you who could help. If you're in northern NJ I'll pop over with my superduper invincible KD valve toolkit.

Pete · 08-06-2012, 12:35 PM

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And besides that, those aren't very old skates.

Bruce Lancaster · 08-06-2012, 12:52 PM

Yeah, old skates are the ones carved from mammoth tusks. Stuff on THIS forum has to be REALLY old for that adjective to be used. Standards, don't you know.

700rpm · 08-06-2012, 01:01 PM

Soak those guides with PB Blaster. Use the proper tool. No problem!

Hedbanger · 08-06-2012, 06:58 PM

I was doing this job just yesterday on my 10/1929 engine. I used the tool and it got stuck in the hole after it punched out the guide. Took awhile, but I got it unstuck. Sucks doing that in 110 degree heat here in AZ.

700rpm · 08-06-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedbanger

I was doing this job just yesterday on my 10/1929 engine. I used the tool and it got stuck in the hole after it punched out the guide. Took awhile, but I got it unstuck. Sucks doing that in 110 degree heat here in AZ.

I prefer the other tool (not the one pictured) that is kind of a crooked shaft.

Hedbanger · 08-06-2012, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 700rpm

I prefer the other tool (not the one pictured) that is kind of a crooked shaft.

I almost bought that one on Ebay but a kind soul let me borrow his tool (the one pictured). That saved me a little money.

columbiA · 08-06-2012, 10:18 PM

The guide remover that is bent to clear the valve head only work if the guide is not siezed to tight.When I install the guides I put a thin coat of Never Seize on the guides in case I ever have to take it apart years down the road.

08-02-2012, 10:14 AM	#1
Old_Skates Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	Stuck Valve Guides I'm removing the valves from a '30 engine. The guides for 6 valves were no problem pushing out with a little tap of a hammer and a blade screwdriver. But for two of the valves, they won't push through. I've tried using a punch and giving them some 'reasonable' hits with a hammer to get them to move but no luck. With the valve still in so it's tough to enough downward force. I was thinking I'll have to cut off the bottom of the valve (mushroom) to pull it up through the block. That will allow me to use more direct downward force to push them out. Any ideas would be appreciated (or is cutting the valve a bad idea)

08-02-2012, 11:22 AM	#3
KR500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Addison,ll. Posts: 454	Re: Stuck Valve Guides Had a similar problem with a guide(original 2 piece and mushroom valve). Ended up cutting the valve with a grinder and drilling out the guide progressively to 1/2 diameter and then driving out what was left. Can't figure how a guide can get this tight in a block. Didn't want to continue beating on a guide that with a enough force might crack the valve guide area of the block.

08-02-2012, 12:35 PM	#4
Old_Skates Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2	Re: Stuck Valve Guides okay thanks, the tool looks like it'll do the trick. I'll give it a try.

08-06-2012, 10:25 AM	#5
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Stuck Valve Guides This is one of those posts illustrating why it is good to have a general geographical location noted in your information here...betcha there are 10 members with the right tool and knowledge near you who could help. If you're in northern NJ I'll pop over with my superduper invincible KD valve toolkit.

08-06-2012, 12:35 PM	#6
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,408	Re: Stuck Valve Guides Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) And besides that, those aren't very old skates.

08-06-2012, 12:52 PM	#7
Bruce Lancaster Member Emeritus Join Date: May 2010 Location: Madison, NJ Posts: 5,230	Re: Stuck Valve Guides Yeah, old skates are the ones carved from mammoth tusks. Stuff on THIS forum has to be REALLY old for that adjective to be used. Standards, don't you know.

08-06-2012, 01:01 PM	#8
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,903	Re: Stuck Valve Guides Soak those guides with PB Blaster. Use the proper tool. No problem! __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

08-06-2012, 06:58 PM	#9
Hedbanger Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: AZ Posts: 43	Re: Stuck Valve Guides I was doing this job just yesterday on my 10/1929 engine. I used the tool and it got stuck in the hole after it punched out the guide. Took awhile, but I got it unstuck. Sucks doing that in 110 degree heat here in AZ.

08-06-2012, 10:18 PM	#12
columbiA Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: B.C. Canada Posts: 1,746	Re: Stuck Valve Guides The guide remover that is bent to clear the valve head only work if the guide is not siezed to tight.When I install the guides I put a thin coat of Never Seize on the guides in case I ever have to take it apart years down the road.