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Jwilli · 01-21-2016, 04:11 PM

I bought a stone guard for my 1930 Murray fordor. The problem is there is only 1/2" space between the bar and the radiator grill. It appears that the headlight bar may be installed backward. Is this possible? I looked at all 3 of Les Andrews books and Les Pearson's book. Can't find any info on installing bar. Should be simple, just put bar on fenders and install bolts. Please give me some help with the best way to go. Thanks in advance.

Rowdy · 01-21-2016, 04:38 PM

The left headlight mount will have a squared off section at the bottom for the horn mount. Rod

CarlG · 01-21-2016, 04:40 PM

When I first got my '31 PU, the headlight bar was very close to the radiator. Then is when I discovered that the headlight bar was from a 28 or 29. Replaced it with the correct headlight bar -- problem solved.

2manycars · 01-21-2016, 04:51 PM

If it is mounted backwards, the headlamps would not mount, since the sockets for them are angled towards the front. Yours may be bent, or off a 29. It should be curved upwards gently from side to side, The 28-29 is straight across.

Jwilli · 01-21-2016, 05:03 PM

Thanks Rowdy and Carl, I will check it out. Carl, I have some great memories of Anchorage. Fishing Bird Creek, having a cool one at the Bird House Bar. Having grilled halibut at the Great Alaska Salmon Bake on 3rd st. Getting my vision checked at the Great Alaska Bush Co.

Jwilli · 01-21-2016, 05:24 PM

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Thanks 2manycars.

Marshall V. Daut · 01-21-2016, 05:36 PM

Here's a tip for you guys who insist on mounting stoneguards on innocent Model A's: To keep the stoneguard from rubbing against the headlight bar (as often happens due to damage, mismatched parts, metal fatigue, reproduction parts, poor restoration work), buy two of the ignition cable rubber grommets (also used in the battery cable to the starter guide). The Snyder's part number is A-11580 @ $1.30. Slice through them on one side only. This will open them up like clams so that they can be placed over the headlight bar next to the front edges of the stoneguard. They act as a dampener against metal-to-metal squeaks and damage to the stoneguard and/or headlight bar. This keeps the stoneguard from vibrating and coming loose, too. I have done this to numerous customer cars with stoneguards and the owners have always been happy with one less noise coming from their cars.
Marshall

Jwilli · 01-21-2016, 05:46 PM

Thanks.

01-21-2016, 04:11 PM	#1
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Headlight bar problem I bought a stone guard for my 1930 Murray fordor. The problem is there is only 1/2" space between the bar and the radiator grill. It appears that the headlight bar may be installed backward. Is this possible? I looked at all 3 of Les Andrews books and Les Pearson's book. Can't find any info on installing bar. Should be simple, just put bar on fenders and install bolts. Please give me some help with the best way to go. Thanks in advance.

01-21-2016, 04:38 PM	#2
Rowdy BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Gothenburg Nebraska Just off I-80 Posts: 4,893	Re: Headlight bar problem The left headlight mount will have a squared off section at the bottom for the horn mount. Rod __________________ Do the RIGHT thing - Support the H.A.M.B. Alliance!!!!

01-21-2016, 04:40 PM	#3
CarlG Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 9,115	Re: Headlight bar problem When I first got my '31 PU, the headlight bar was very close to the radiator. Then is when I discovered that the headlight bar was from a 28 or 29. Replaced it with the correct headlight bar -- problem solved. __________________ Alaskan A's Antique Auto Mushers of Alaska Model A Ford Club of America Model A Restorers Club Antique Automobile Club of America Mullins Owner's Club

01-21-2016, 04:51 PM	#4
2manycars Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern CT Posts: 2,732	Re: Headlight bar problem If it is mounted backwards, the headlamps would not mount, since the sockets for them are angled towards the front. Yours may be bent, or off a 29. It should be curved upwards gently from side to side, The 28-29 is straight across.

01-21-2016, 05:03 PM	#5
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: Headlight bar problem Thanks Rowdy and Carl, I will check it out. Carl, I have some great memories of Anchorage. Fishing Bird Creek, having a cool one at the Bird House Bar. Having grilled halibut at the Great Alaska Salmon Bake on 3rd st. Getting my vision checked at the Great Alaska Bush Co.

01-21-2016, 05:24 PM	#6
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: Headlight bar problem Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Thanks 2manycars.

01-21-2016, 05:36 PM	#7
Marshall V. Daut Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Davenport, Iowa Posts: 2,109	Re: Headlight bar problem Here's a tip for you guys who insist on mounting stoneguards on innocent Model A's: To keep the stoneguard from rubbing against the headlight bar (as often happens due to damage, mismatched parts, metal fatigue, reproduction parts, poor restoration work), buy two of the ignition cable rubber grommets (also used in the battery cable to the starter guide). The Snyder's part number is A-11580 @ $1.30. Slice through them on one side only. This will open them up like clams so that they can be placed over the headlight bar next to the front edges of the stoneguard. They act as a dampener against metal-to-metal squeaks and damage to the stoneguard and/or headlight bar. This keeps the stoneguard from vibrating and coming loose, too. I have done this to numerous customer cars with stoneguards and the owners have always been happy with one less noise coming from their cars. Marshall Last edited by Marshall V. Daut; 01-21-2016 at 05:45 PM.

01-21-2016, 05:46 PM	#8
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: Headlight bar problem Thanks.