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Old 09-16-2019, 04:54 AM   #1
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Default T170 trans with stock 1932 ford K member ??

Does anyone happen to know if a T170 can be used without having to cut up the stock K member . It looks like one of the smaller trans’ that offer an overdrive gear .
Or is ANY overdrive trans just not doable without cutting the stock K member ?
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:01 AM   #2
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I don't think it will work. It is too long. I looked into it years back. John
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:17 AM   #3
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I researched this, and the only way I could find to fit an overdrive trans into a 32 K member is to use a Volvo 4 spd + od box. I mocked it up. The overdrive would have to be assembled onto the box through the K member, from the rear. i mocked it up with the slightly larger M410 box, the motor would have to come forward about 5/8".

Having that and making it closed driveline would be another level of complexity.

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Old 09-16-2019, 08:56 AM   #4
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won't fit, the top center has to be cut and moved back several inches. I've got a good pic of one, I'll post later if interested.
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Old 09-16-2019, 09:28 AM   #5
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I have an S10 trans behind an 8BA in a 32 Tudor I bought 2 years ago. All the modifications were done by the Previous owner.
Cutting the center X member is unavoidable.
My advice is to remove the original Ford X member and install a Vern Tardel repro. You can modify that very easily and still keep the original brake and clutch set up.
If you ever decide to go back original you can do so easily .
You will still need an open drive rear. I believe there are some open drive conversion kits readily available also a later (1948 & up ???) F1 pick up rears were open drive too.
You can use the center section with the earlier bells to keep the buggy spring
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Old 09-16-2019, 12:04 PM   #6
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Thanks guys! I had a feeling this trans still most likely wouldn’t work.
I think removing the original K member sounds like the thing to do.
It will allow me to run a much stronger overdrive manual trans .
I’m leaning towards a tremec tko 5 speed. They are super durable and would give me overdrive. A friend is running one behind his 32 with the same motor I’m currently building and he said it was the best thing he did for drivability on long trips. He logs tons of miles on his car .
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Old 09-16-2019, 01:26 PM   #7
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I had considered a Mitchell/Columbia but with most I’ve spoken to those are best suited for stock motors or modified motors without a lot of hp/tq.
With either of those options plus a 39 trans I just feel like I’m asking too much of the part
because it was NEVER meant to be used with a significantly larger Hp/tq level. Back in the day if you blew your 39 trans it was much easier and cheaper to fix .
My goal for this car is to drive it a ton ,lots of daily driving and also drive it to various driving events Bonneville, hot rod hill climb etc. The overdrive to me is something that will make my car more capable to do what I want to do driving wise . Car will have to do tons of freeway /highway driving .If it was a car that was mainly for just driving around town I wouldn’t bother with overdrive .
I understand that a newer overdrive trans isn’t correct in this car but I gotta decide what is more important durability / drivability or being able to say my car has a correct era trans even though it won’t be as strong and won’t let me do freeway / long drives as well.
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:38 PM   #8
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I plan on using a t170 in my 34 coupe. I will use the torque tube.
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Old 09-17-2019, 10:38 AM   #9
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Ok, I want to know where that adapter came from.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:04 PM   #10
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Ok, I want to know where that adapter came from.
I did a little searching
Here you go

http://www.macsspeed.com/index.php/p...dapters-detail

It is making me wonder if I could squeeze this through the stock 32 K member
It looks pretty close in size to a 39 trans
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Old 12-10-2019, 06:25 PM   #11
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I plan on using a t170 in my 34 coupe. I will use the torque tube.
I want to do the same conversion but am not finding any local machine shop capable of cutting, turning and resplining the trans shaft. Does anyone have a source for this that I can sent it to?
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Old 12-10-2019, 08:39 PM   #12
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I did a little searching
Here you go

http://www.macsspeed.com/index.php/p...dapters-detail

It is making me wonder if I could squeeze this through the stock 32 K member
It looks pretty close in size to a 39 trans
I don't believe it will fit - so some cutting will be necessary in the K-member. I know, we all wish there was a better option . . . . Arrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggh!
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Old 12-10-2019, 09:12 PM   #13
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Dave Delmue sets these transmissions up. He resplines them. This is his specialty. He can be reached at 408-722-2518.
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I emailed Dave. He only sells the kit and wouldn’t just do or sell a shaft.
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Old 12-10-2019, 10:42 PM   #15
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Latest Street Rodder Magazine has a article about a conversion with an open driveline in a 36
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Old 12-11-2019, 01:40 AM   #16
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I don't believe it will fit - so some cutting will be necessary in the K-member. I know, we all wish there was a better option . . . . Arrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggh!
You were right . I can confirm it will require some trimming/modifying the stock K member .
I had to just bite the bullet and do it .
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Old 12-11-2019, 02:46 AM   #17
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Default Re: T170 trans with stock 1932 ford K member ??

Or one of these if you can find one.Full syncro 4sp installed in the French ,Monte Carlo Comet in 1955.First pic -you can see the Ford script.Here also is a pic of the car.They had V8 flatheads in them
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Old 12-11-2019, 06:50 AM   #18
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]We have some of these T170 trans toque tube adaptors. to shorten the trans made from 5/8 plate alloy machined from HT 5083 alloy fits 6 bolt toque tube mount
Price is $155.00 plus postage from Corsicana Texas.75109

For further info please call my OLD TIME SPEED parts USA distributor Jerry Hopkins phone 903 875 9557 or email texasfordman@gmail.com
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Old 12-11-2019, 08:07 AM   #19
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I plan on using a t170 in my 34 coupe. I will use the torque tube.
I like that setup - have you already managed to build the transmission and get the associated machine work done? If so, would love to know who you had rework the main shaft?

Also, I'm sure you're aware, you'll need to shorten the 34 driveshaft and torque tube. Not a huge deal, but all part of the "fun"! LOL
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