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Old 08-01-2015, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default Another Way Grandpop Was Tougher Than Me

OK.....World War I, Great Depression, World War II and wool underwear were all more than enough.

But God dangit - swapping tires with nothing but spoons!

I just spent half an hour sweating my arse off thinking I was going to lose a tooth at any moment. Couldn't budge tire one.

Old School be darned. I'm off to the tire shop.

Update....a little citrus degreaser broke the bead & it was a piece of cake after that.

Now...the new rubber is stiffer than the old. What's that plastic bag trick for mounting?

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Old 08-01-2015, 04:08 PM   #2
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John, If you don't take your adapter with you to the tire shop, they won't be able to help you either. Speedway has them, and Spadero had them. RIP Dick.
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My Dad was a "Tough SOB" back when I was a kid he could carry $25 worth of grocery's for the month with no sweat !!! Now at 87 years old he can carry $225 worth of groceries for the week !!!! He has grown much stronger !!! He is one tough SOB & strong as H-----
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:36 PM   #4
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Tony, thats because they live in the bloody cold all the time so have to work hard to stay warm,LOl ,
My G/parents were the same .lived in taranaki next to Mt Egmont.
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Hi all; About those 'BIG' five adapters. Some are ment for circle track racers and have 5/8" lugs in them. Also some have cut threads and not the correct rolled threads, your lug nuts will bind. Just a warning, check before buying. Newc
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Old 08-01-2015, 05:45 PM   #6
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Hi all; About those 'BIG' five adapters. Some are ment for circle track racers and have 5/8" lugs in them. Also some have cut threads and not the correct rolled threads, your lug nuts will bind. Just a warning, check before buying. Newc
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Old 08-01-2015, 06:43 PM   #7
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My wife and I put a new rim and new tube onto this tractor 11.2x28 using tire irons, we were exhausted when we were done and covered with black rubber dust. Those farmers were tough.
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:03 PM   #8
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Ok I admit it.....I'm a wimp.....and I like my teeth.......I let the pros do it!
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As you can see from the updated first post I did finally have success - on the first half of the first tire anyway
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The plastic trash bag will help the tire slip on
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:29 PM   #11
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I tried to break the bead by laying the tire and wheel on the floor and placing a 2x6 on the sidewall.It made a ramp of sorts.I then proceeded to drive my little S-10 up the ramp.I think it would've worked but the 2X6 broke,the S-10 dropped and the plastic bumper landed on a piece of the board and left a hole you could throw a cat through.
Off to Les Schawb to fix the tire and to the hardware store for some super glue.
So much for "Garage Logic".....maybe it was the beer.
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:29 AM   #12
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I can normally change tyres with levers, but not break the beads. I built a simple home made bead breaker and it has always done the trick on old car type tyres. Modern car tyres get dome at the tyre shop, they are much more difficult, especially the low profile stuff.

I'll take a snap of the bead breaker, and post it here.

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Old 08-02-2015, 06:00 AM   #13
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The plastic trash bag will help the tire slip on
PLEASE explain the plastic bag trick
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Old 08-02-2015, 07:18 AM   #14
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Had to put a tube in a front tire on a tractor like corvette8n's but couldn't get the bead to break. Gave up & took it to a tire shop to put the tube in but he wouldn't do it. Afraid he'd pinch the tube. Did get him to break the bead for me. After that it wasn't too bad except for the temps here in Az. now.
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I bought an ancient bead breaker at a garage sale for $2 about ten years ago still got it and works great. Many tire shops will not mount tubes ...don't want to pinch them. The best trick I have found to mount tires is to put the wheel on my 32 Roadster(no fenders)......cover the 1/4 panel WELL....REALLY WELL...put the rear axle of the car on a floor jack...same side as the wheel you are fumbling with....mount the backside of the tire from the bottom first...lower the car...the tire will go into the drop center and slide right on. ...raise the car.....put tube in all the way...inflate it to make sure it isn't twisted....deflate it....mount the front of the tire ...bottom first again....as you lower the lower the car ...push the tire into the drop center...once the weight is on the tire push the tire over the top of the rim while the weight of the car is holding the tire into the drop center of the rim. Lubricant helps.... not too much as it makes the tire tough to hold onto. Smooth tire irons are a plus and a helper (the prettier the better) that can fly the floor jack is a must. After you do 1 or 2 like this you'll be ready to open your own tire shop.
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Old 08-02-2015, 08:14 AM   #16
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My grandfather was something else he farmed 600 acres by himself raise sheep, cattle put 3 large gardens and sold his produce every summer. Had a dairy farm sold milk and made a good livening. He left me the farm which I could not match him in any way. I sold the farm to the coal Co. and still have the mineral rights which I lease. I do take care of his grave to show respect to him. I could not keep up with him on the best day of my life. I know that. Back then they were men. He bought a Maxwell car drove it in the creek the first day he got it and never drove it again. It sat in a shed for many years. The shed fell down on it when I got the farm. I still have part of it. Most of it all gone.
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Break beads. A jackall between the bumper of your pickup and the tire on the floor,jack till it pushes the beads off,then spoons.
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Old 08-02-2015, 10:40 AM   #18
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John, If you don't take your adapter with you to the tire shop, they won't be able to help you either. Speedway has them, and Spadero had them. RIP Dick.
Just had a wide five mounted with a spare for my p/u at the local shop no problem. The new machines grip the outer part of the rim not like the old school machines that spun a cone shaped device on the center hole in the rim to hold it down.
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Just had a wide five mounted with a spare for my p/u at the local shop no problem. The new machines grip the outer part of the rim not like the old school machines that spun a cone shaped device on the center hole in the rim to hold it down.
No kidding? Do they spin balance like that also?
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I picked up an old hand held bead breaker year ago and have no trouble with it. A new one can be had at: http://www.harborfreight.com/bead-breaker-92961.html

Like Mart said, once the bead is broken all the way around, the spoons come in handy. Also, don't wear a tie when you change tires.
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