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53RYDER · 08-18-2015, 06:26 PM

So my 67 Dodge Monaco comes with a vin number and a fender tag, which once deciphered, lists a wealth of information about my car.

Did A's come with anything equivalent? Don't know so's I'm asking!

Glenn (newbie)

160B · 08-18-2015, 06:35 PM

Engine number stamped on the engine and on the left side frame rail just below the cowl section.

1955cj5 · 08-18-2015, 06:44 PM

You can get a good idea of when the engine was built.....but that's about it...

http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie...n%20Charts.pdf

Synchro909 · 08-18-2015, 07:02 PM

No chassis number on our As and boy, does that cause lots of furrowed brows when we try to register one. The moderns employed at the registration office can't get their heads around a car not having a chassis number.
I had one a few years ago who produced a piece of paper and said "Go and get this number stamped on the car so we can register it." When I asked where they wanted the number put, the answer was "On the front left suspension tower".

It was beyond them to comprehend that this car had no suspension tower - it was a beam axle. "A what?" "Go get yer manager!"
I stamp the engine number onto the chassis just where the LHD steering box would have gone.

Fred K-OR · 08-18-2015, 08:26 PM

I had a "vin" number printed on a plate, vin number being the number registered on my title, and placed it on my firewall inside the motor compartment. Hope this will work if and when any DMV person may want to see it. Due to the fact I changed the motor since it was registered, I felt I need something to show if I may need it.

C26Pinelake · 08-18-2015, 08:31 PM

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Many of us indeed wish there was a VIN tag but no such luck! Wayne

Cool Hand Lurker · 08-18-2015, 08:58 PM

The VIN did not exist until sometime in the 60's or 70's when a new and "better" law was passed that required a series of letters and numbers that covered all possible codes for identifying features of the vehicle. Before that we just had serial numbers.
The change happened before the young 'uns at the DMV were born.

On the Model A the number was put on the side if the block and on the frame rail just behind the firewall on the driver side. The frame number is hard to see.

53RYDER · 08-18-2015, 10:52 PM

Hey! Thanks for the responses!

Glenn

RandyinUtah · 08-18-2015, 11:08 PM

I once had a Cabriolet that had the engine number stamped on the side of the frame rail.

Mike V. Florida · 08-19-2015, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred K-OR

I had a "vin" number printed on a plate, vin number being the number registered on my title, and placed it on my firewall inside the motor compartment. Hope this will work if and when any DMV person may want to see it. Due to the fact I changed the motor since it was registered, I felt I need something to show if I may need it.

The body tag on mine has the title number stamped on it made it easier for DOT verification.

CarlG · 08-19-2015, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred K-OR

I had a "vin" number printed on a plate, vin number being the number registered on my title, and placed it on my firewall inside the motor compartment. Hope this will work if and when any DMV person may want to see it. Due to the fact I changed the motor since it was registered, I felt I need something to show if I may need it.

I got one of these plates, intend to do the same thing.

https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83834

CWPASADENA · 08-19-2015, 10:35 PM

When I restored my Tudor, I stamped the frame number on the part of the frame that is exposed right adjacent to the battery. There is just enough of the frame rail visible with the floorboard removed to stamp the number.

I did this so if I was ever questioned about the frame number, I could lift up the floorboard and it is visible.

This may also help the next owner when he goes to get it registered.

This is a real problem in some states where they want to see the number stamped on the frame.

That is what I did,

Chris W.

mshmodela · 08-20-2015, 08:31 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehi...ication_number

Bob Johnson · 08-20-2015, 10:47 AM

VIN = Vehicle Identification Number

OK first it is not always just a number. It can have letters as well as numbers. So it should be VIC = Vehicle Identification Code.

Second VIN Number is redundant. It would stand for Vehicle Identification Number Number or VINN. Then you could have VINN Number or Vehicle Identification Number Number Number .......>

BTW (oops I meant to say By The Way) the Vehicle Identification Numbers were first introduced in 1954. Up until 1981 there was no standard and every manufacturer used their own system.

Bob

08-18-2015, 06:26 PM	#1
53RYDER Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Brier, WA Posts: 82	Did Model A's come with vin tags? So my 67 Dodge Monaco comes with a vin number and a fender tag, which once deciphered, lists a wealth of information about my car. Did A's come with anything equivalent? Don't know so's I'm asking! Glenn (newbie)

08-18-2015, 06:35 PM	#2
160B Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Port Orchard, WA Posts: 1,498	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? Engine number stamped on the engine and on the left side frame rail just below the cowl section. __________________ 1931 160B & 1931 68B If you don't have time to do it right the 1st time, how do you have time to do it the 2nd time?

08-18-2015, 06:44 PM	#3
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? You can get a good idea of when the engine was built.....but that's about it... http://www.plucks329s.org/pdf/studie...n%20Charts.pdf __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62

08-18-2015, 07:02 PM	#4
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? No chassis number on our As and boy, does that cause lots of furrowed brows when we try to register one. The moderns employed at the registration office can't get their heads around a car not having a chassis number. I had one a few years ago who produced a piece of paper and said "Go and get this number stamped on the car so we can register it." When I asked where they wanted the number put, the answer was "On the front left suspension tower". It was beyond them to comprehend that this car had no suspension tower - it was a beam axle. "A what?" "Go get yer manager!" I stamp the engine number onto the chassis just where the LHD steering box would have gone. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

08-18-2015, 08:26 PM	#5
Fred K-OR Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Stayton, Oregon Posts: 3,806	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? I had a "vin" number printed on a plate, vin number being the number registered on my title, and placed it on my firewall inside the motor compartment. Hope this will work if and when any DMV person may want to see it. Due to the fact I changed the motor since it was registered, I felt I need something to show if I may need it. __________________ Fred Kroon 1929 Std Coupe 1929 Huckster

08-18-2015, 08:31 PM	#6
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Many of us indeed wish there was a VIN tag but no such luck! Wayne

08-18-2015, 08:58 PM	#7
Cool Hand Lurker Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: So Minn Posts: 1,565	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? The VIN did not exist until sometime in the 60's or 70's when a new and "better" law was passed that required a series of letters and numbers that covered all possible codes for identifying features of the vehicle. Before that we just had serial numbers. The change happened before the young 'uns at the DMV were born. On the Model A the number was put on the side if the block and on the frame rail just behind the firewall on the driver side. The frame number is hard to see.

08-18-2015, 10:52 PM	#8
53RYDER Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Brier, WA Posts: 82	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? Hey! Thanks for the responses! Glenn

08-18-2015, 11:08 PM	#9
RandyinUtah Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ogden Utah Posts: 242	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? I once had a Cabriolet that had the engine number stamped on the side of the frame rail.

08-19-2015, 10:35 PM	#12
CWPASADENA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PASADENA, CA Posts: 1,882	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? When I restored my Tudor, I stamped the frame number on the part of the frame that is exposed right adjacent to the battery. There is just enough of the frame rail visible with the floorboard removed to stamp the number. I did this so if I was ever questioned about the frame number, I could lift up the floorboard and it is visible. This may also help the next owner when he goes to get it registered. This is a real problem in some states where they want to see the number stamped on the frame. That is what I did, Chris W.

08-20-2015, 08:31 AM	#13
mshmodela Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,763	Re: Did Model A's come with vin tags? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehi...ication_number __________________ -Mike Late 31' Ford Model A Tudor, Miss Daisy I don't work on cars --I'm learning about my Model A. Cleveland, Ohio

08-20-2015, 10:47 AM	#14
Bob Johnson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: California Posts: 977	Acronyms drive me crazy VIN = Vehicle Identification Number OK first it is not always just a number. It can have letters as well as numbers. So it should be VIC = Vehicle Identification Code. Second VIN Number is redundant. It would stand for Vehicle Identification Number Number or VINN. Then you could have VINN Number or Vehicle Identification Number Number Number .......> BTW (oops I meant to say By The Way) the Vehicle Identification Numbers were first introduced in 1954. Up until 1981 there was no standard and every manufacturer used their own system. Bob