160-C Slant Windshield Blindback Fordor Owners

[dsmith29]

Thanks for the pic! This was one of the few remaining prefix tags I didn't have. From everything we know, this would seem to have been the 113th built as you stated. From what I have dug up, there were only 4,589 domestically produced in '30-'31.

[forever4]

Originally Posted by dsmith29

Thanks for the pic! This was one of the few remaining prefix tags I didn't have. From everything we know, this would seem to have been the 113th built as you stated. From what I have dug up, there were only 4,589 domestically produced in '30-'31.

Why do you believe any 160-C were produced in 1930?
Do you have a reference you can supply?

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by forever4

Why do you believe any 160-C were produced in 1930?
Do you have a reference you can supply?

There were NO 160c ever produced in 1930 and in 31 my reference shows 2491 approx produced hence the 2nd (town car 1st) rarest Model A Produced. That number of 4400+ is intermingled other sedans based on other records.

AS pluck says: In the 1931 ART, the 160-C (Deluxe Fordor Sedan Slant Window/Briggs) numbers were intermingled with the 170-B (Deluxe Fordor Sedan/Briggs) figures.

USA had 3231; Foreign had 1358; Canada had 378. The 1932 ART tells us that only the foreign market produced these at 202 (160-C).

The 160-CDL replaced the 170-BDL in July 1931.

HOWEVER...Stated in the book "The Ford Model A as Henry Built it" it states that there were 2491 160-C's (DL) and 740 170-B's (DL) built in 1931.

[forever4]

Originally Posted by msmaron

The 160-CDL replaced the 170-BDL in July 1931.

HOWEVER...Stated in the book "The Ford Model A as Henry Built it" it states that there were 2491 160-C's (DL) and 740 170-B's (DL) built in 1931.

Mark,
When you say that the 160-C replaced the 170-B Deluxe in July 1931, that would imply that there should be indented firewall gas valve 170-B's in existence. Does anyone have one?

Also your statement implies to me that the 160-C was introduced in July 1931. Is that what you meant? There are a number of flat firewall 160-C's in my records which should have been produced before May 1931, not in/after July.

Where did the July 1931 reference come from?

[forever4]

This is great discussion! THANKS AND KEEP IT GOING!

I am just looking for clarification and understanding.

So a related question is:
Does anyone have an indented firewall (under hood gas valve) 170-B?
That is a 1931 straight windshield blind back 2 window Fordor sedan?
Can you supply a pic or a body tag number?
Thanks

[msmaron]

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Originally Posted by forever4

Mark,
When you say that the 160-C replaced the 170-B Deluxe in July 1931, that would imply that there should be indented firewall gas valve 170-B's in existence. Does anyone have one?

Also your statement implies to me that the 160-C was introduced in July 1931. Is that what you meant? There are a number of flat firewall 160-C's in my records which should have been produced before May 1931, not in/after July.

Where did the July 1931 reference come from?

NO NO. That was a quote from PLUCKS statement... YES the 160-c did have the flat firewall in the early cars.. I believe the July 31 was the by then 100% indented firewalls at that point.
Also I have never seen a 170B with an indented firewall.... Hope that helps

[Bob Buchanan]

Good Morning,
I’m somewhat new to the Ford Barn but noticed your older post regarding the 160C model. I have a 1931 Murray bodied 160C slant window, blind back, production number 183. that I aquired a couple years ago out of New Briton Ct. All original no rust running car that I am keeping in the original condition. Just doing new king pins, breaks ,tires etc. fair to good original interior.
I would be very interested on any information you may have learned concerning the production numbers of the 31 Murray bodied models.
Thanking you in advance
Bob Buchanan
Alton , NH
603-520-1010
[email protected]

[Joop]

This may help you

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[Bob Buchanan]

Originally Posted by petcar

I'm not sure I would stick my neck out too far on this one. Murray did indeed produce 160-C models in 1931. My car does indeed have the original Murray body Tag on the firewall. The tag shows 160-C 113 ( guessing it was the 113th made )
So... Murray did indeed produce the 160-C Dlx in 1931 and I do indeed own one. Feel free to double check me on this, many on the Ford Barn here will be glad to supply info, along with several on the Model A Ford Club of America. I apologize if I seem a bit defensive here ( I really don't mean to ) But I'm proud of my rare old car, and I would be truly surprised if the car in my garage were some sort of ghost. :-)

I also have an original 1931 Murray bodied slant window Blindback C-160

[Steve Schmauch]

I own a 160-C with a re-stamped indented firewall, unrestored. Three of the four fenders still have the original welting intact. There are no holes in the firewall for a data plate. I remember reading somewhere that folks ascribe this feature as a Ford-built body. I do not know if this is fact or fiction.

[Bleedblue4life]

I purchased a 160c out of Rhode Island last December. It is a flat firewall Murray body #70 with a January engine number. It is a restored car with Marc and mafca credentials.