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08-10-2022, 08:43 PM | #1 |
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Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I've read some folks highlighting that they've used a cast clam shell vs. a stamped one. Is one preferred over another or is just a correct restoration piece depending on the year?
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08-10-2022, 10:36 PM | #2 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I didn't know there was 2 types. Mine is stamped. Which one is more/less common? - F F
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08-10-2022, 10:38 PM | #3 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I've never seen a cast one either. 32-34 are one piece, but still stamped IIRC
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08-10-2022, 11:03 PM | #4 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I believe the early '32 were forged 2 piece and then the same part shows up again in '35 for a period of time. The forged unit bears a "B" part number.
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08-10-2022, 11:53 PM | #5 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
With respect, all '32-'34 cups were one-piece steel stampings. 48-4520-A1 and 48-4520-A2 are the two versions of the two-piece caps released for the '35 model year. The cast version (not forged) has the part number cast in on one half. When a part number has a number following its letter suffix, that indicates a different supplier and normally a different design with the same functionality and therefore the same basic part number. It is one of the telltales of the Ford part numbering system that has remained more or less unchanged in terms of its basics for 98 years.
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08-11-2022, 05:35 AM | #7 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
We acquire those for our core parts stock. I’d say about somewhere between a quarter and a third of them are the cast iron type. Due to the additional thickness I believe they need a slightly longer bolt to hold them together.
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The longer ones were harvested from '35/'36 trans mounts. |
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08-11-2022, 07:14 AM | #9 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
Both the two vertically-placed bolts that hold the two halves together and the four horizontally-placed bolts with the offset heads that attach the cap to the rear of the transmission mount are longer to accommodate the greater thickness of the steel casting.
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08-11-2022, 07:52 AM | #10 |
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Makes sense, sure. Thanks
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08-11-2022, 02:55 PM | #11 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I've got a cast pair that have 4 bolts holding them together. Maybe Pilot or some other UK origin.
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Neat and thanks for posting. I like your use of the nuts for the four "L" bolts. Can you tell us more where you got those? I bet they help with the tight clearance in this area. I find even the smaller diameter Ford nuts can be a tight fight. |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
Now that is something different! Thanks for sharing it.
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08-11-2022, 03:03 PM | #14 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
I made the nuts myself. I had some wheel spacer stud extenders that had a 7/16 UNF thread and a 5/8" hex body. It had a male thread one end and a female thread inside the hex. I cut off the external stud and turned the hex down at the base. They do work well.
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08-11-2022, 05:56 PM | #15 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
The one on my 39 Zephyr was cast and had the part number cast into it. Had an 86H prefix which would be correct for Lincoln. Never seen one on a Ford.
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I’d like to respectfully add a bit more information to this discussion as is often done in these parts discussions. Attached are 2 pictures of part number B-4514 clamshells I’ve had (have) in my parts inventory. Thank you, Paul J. |
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08-12-2022, 12:19 AM | #17 |
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Re: Cast vs. stamped steel clam shells
Interesting double bolt thing from mart ! I have to agree with David G , it may be a regional thing. Me, being near the St Paul Mn Ford plant perhaps stamped parts was the thing here, as I've never seen a cast clam. Correct me if I'm wrong, but small parts like that were perhaps jobbed out locally.
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