Stock Duece Coupe

[Tinker]

That was supposed to be Deuce Coupe before you all get hung up on it.

Are there a lot of stock 32s out there? I can say I've not seen one live outside a museum collection. Maybe I need to get out more often.

[tubman]

Things are obviously slow in Parkers Prairie, Minnesota tonight.

[Tinker]

I do not live there, must be the same in brainerd mn for you.

It's a thought Tubby. Don't be hating.


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[tubman]

I'm stuck in the Florida Keys for the foreseeable future.

It's a tough job, but somebody has to do it.

[Tinker]

Get it, been there. little palm island was my favorite. Be well! Btw I do not live or have property in parkers. Not sure where you get that.

Not sure if this has anything to do with stock 32's, but thanks!


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[cas3]

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a recent post on the hamb shows a guy with a beautiful 3w body he just got, and then an artist drawing of what he wants to do with it. now, i like old skool hotrods, but jeez he will make it into the same modern streetrod thing we see all the time. just buy a fiberglass car and do your thing!! well, thats my comment, i am done

[Tinker]

Ya cas3, was just wondering if anyone has a stock 32 out side a few here we know. Or aspires to do so. Too much to ask I guess

[tubman]

Remember the 1970's? A big thing was a "T"-shirt with a picture of a guy with a sawzall and the caption "Anyone can restore a car; it takes a real man to chop one up".

Hopefully, those days are behind us.

[cas3]

even as rare as they are, it still falls under the "they're still out there" column. i'm sure there's guys that bought em in the 60's and said "i'm gonna ...some day", and there's guys who actually did restore them and never drive them or participate in any events. they are there, we just hear about them after they sold instead of being for sale. i believe most desirable cars never do come to the surface, they are sold under the radar to friend or family or some one who has known about them for decades

[Tinker]

I can get chopping up a car. I get it. I'm not an elitist. Most chops are bad or never finished. Only the good ones we remember.

Then the inheritor f's it up, no idea of what it took to save something. Whatever, make a good 15sec Instagram video with air bags. Okay I'm being a bit observant and bias. Sad but true.


All this has nothing to do about a stock 32. Which is the question.



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[DavidG]

All mine are stock and I know of lots more, even in Minnesota.

[Tinker]

Okay, someone adding some value. They are still very rare. I can't remember a show with a stock coupe. Maybe I'm going to the wrong shows. Back to 50s is a MSRA. Huge show and friends that do it all the way from florida.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Most chops are bad or never finished. Only the good ones we remember.

I remember this one...……….and it ain't good! DD

[jim1932]

Other than the wheels and a Reversed Eye front spring, Mine is a bone stock Model B.

[51woodie]

I know this post is about '32s, but the couple I bought my '46 Super Deluxe from had several Ford cars for sale, ranging from 1920's to the '46. The '46 was love at first site, even for my wife! When I started talking about the purchase, they asked me more questions than I asked them. Did I like the flathead, would I put a SBC of a crate Ford engine in it. Would I change the rear end and put discs on it for better brakes, as well as many more questions. I started to wonder why all the questions, because the only yes reply was that I liked the flathead, and my intent was to keep it as original as possible. The stern questions went to a smile, to handshakes and a sale. I found out that it was the ladies father's car, and his wish before passing away, was that the car should not be "hot rodded". When I got the car cleaned up and in good running order, I went back to visit the couple, and she went to tears when she saw the car. She said, "Dad would be sooooo happy". I don't know what will happen to the car when I'm gone, but I hope it goes to someone that doesn't own a Saws All

[Old Redneck]

That the only way a 32 looks good. The way Henry built it.

[Bored&Stroked]

Mine looks pretty old, weathered and stock (except the wheels are bent spoke, adjustable 16's) . . . especially the old water stained top, old paint and wheels - just don't look under the hood too closely. LOL

I've tried to honor the guy that originally built his poor mans HotRod - named 'Earl' - just couldn't fathom changing the old weathered look of it. I'm actually quite glad that it wasn't all 'restored' when I found it like a time capture in the garage it was built in.

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[DavidG]

Can't fool me, that's a stove bolt in the photo on the left.t

[petehoovie]

Da Best!

[jimTN]

My tudor is stock with a replacement 34/5 block.

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Can't fool me, that's a stove bolt in the photo on the left.t

Dang you David . . . you found out! I'm not sure what type of 32 coupe that is in the picture with Earl . . . wish he'd had that one in the garage next to the Cab!

[DavidG]

The window count on the left side of it in the photo suggests that it is a Fordor.

[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Okay, someone adding some value. They are still very rare. I can't remember a show with a stock coupe. Maybe I'm going to the wrong shows. Back to 50s is a MSRA. Huge show and friends that do it all the way from florida.

Hey Tinker,
I've got a '32 5 window, model 18 that is pretty stock. It was 'restored' some years back. Looks good with , what was it...mohair interior ?
The old man had dual pipes and '40 hydraulics and tube shocks. But rebuilt the 21 stud and did good !! Wheels are Ugly, but that is easy to fix (vintuque).

I love the stock look....but the Ugly rumble seat has to go at some point. Who would leave a rumble seat and restore it in this day/age ??

[Bored&Stroked]

Here is the only picture of the Cab. His grandson was nice enough to give me the only pictures he had of his Grandpa and his vintage cars. It was kind of cool - the house where this stuff was at was built in 1932 and my cabriolet had been up on blocks since 1961 - in that same corner of the old garage.

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[Bored&Stroked]

RE: Rumbleseat: Given that every Cabriolet came with a rumble seat, I wanted to keep it in mine - but when I had the leather interior done, had them spruce up the design/style of the rumble area, added leather side panels, side pockets, etc - to sort of match the front kick-panels, etc.. The style fits the original build period of customs/cars before WWII (when Earl first did it). Purists may not like it . . . but I'm not a fan of mohair - had it in my first 34, never could stand it.


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[Zeke3]

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B&S, That original license plate looks like it was a Central Ohio car, is that right?

I like the look of the rumble seat area.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by cas3

even as rare as they are, it still falls under the "they're still out there" column. i'm sure there's guys that bought em in the 60's and said "i'm gonna ...some day", and there's guys who actually did restore them and never drive them or participate in any events. they are there, we just hear about them after they sold instead of being for sale. i believe most desirable cars never do come to the surface, they are sold under the radar to friend or family or some one who has known about them for decades

There'd be a lot more if weren't for the dirt tack racers of the '40's and '50's! Ask some old timers in your area if they remember Marv DeWall from Watertown, SD. He raced at Husett's Speedway in Souix Falls and at Jackson,MN. He always ran '32 coupes and if he wadded one up he just built another.

[Cool Kat with Hot Car]

All original except repaint from the early 1940s. Drives like a new car. Superb original upholstery. DavidG should remember to from the V8 Clubs anniversary meet at Tahoe. Could be for sale.

[petehoovie]

Originally Posted by Cool Kat with Hot Car

All original except repaint from the early 1940s. Drives like a new car. Superb original upholstery. DavidG should remember to from the V8 Clubs anniversary meet at Tahoe. Could be for sale.

[cas3]

mr 40 deluxe, yup a lot were lost on the tracks. most of us have seen this photo, but its appropriate here

[tomcarman]

Original meaning uncut, unhotrodded? New paint and upholstery 1972. '33 engine. Body's never been off the frame, some repo parts, some not. Looks great in the pic but in real life needs more work. Car is scary to drive with I'm sure, original '32 front end. Needs rebuilt. Still draws a crowd at car shows like a magnet that there are "original" '32 Fords. Most carshow goers have only seen the iconic "Hotrod" '32 in their many forms. This car? Original, no. Especially by DavidG standards, but I think at least in the same universe. I've posted this pic in the past on another thread.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

There'd be a lot more if weren't for the dirt tack racers of the '40's and '50's! Ask some old timers in your area if they remember Marv DeWall from Watertown, SD. He raced at Husett's Speedway in Souix Falls and at Jackson,MN. He always ran '32 coupes and if he wadded one up he just built another.

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I think Marvs # was 16. Marv was a great driver.





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[tubman]

I have managed to accumulate a lot of documentation for my modified that also ran in Jackson (and a LOT of of other area tracks) in the 60's. Among the papers are a bunch of seasons' standings at various times during the year. Marv DeWall's name is prominent in a lot of them.

My car was the number 102 built by the Thurmer brothers (who ran a body shop in Jackson) and was driven by another Midwest Legend named Jack McCorkell.

[Lanny]

Hey Denny, remember another '32 coupe in our Vintage Stock Car club was
Roger Barbers blue '32 coupe # 555.



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[tubman]

Originally Posted by Lanny

Hey Denny, remember another '32 coupe in our Vintage Stock Car club was
Roger Barbers blue '32 coupe # 555.



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Absolutely. I remember him bitching about my "Big Hemi" (a '54 331). He was running a 351 Ford.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by tubman

I have managed to accumulate a lot of documentation for my modified that also ran in Jackson (and a LOT of of other area tracks) in the 60's. Among the papers are a bunch of seasons' standings at various times during the year. Marv DeWall's name is prominent in a lot of them.

My car was the number 102 built by the Thurmer brothers (who ran a body shop in Jackson) and was driven by another Midwest Legend named Jack McCorkell.

Wow! Memories! (some fuzzy!) I don't remember Jack's car number but was it your car he wrecked at Jackson and broke (or nearly broke) his neck? I seem to remember the car going up in the air and coming down on it's nose and spinning every which way. I grew up on a farm about 15 miles east of Jackson and watched the races in the late '50's and early '60's when the cubic inch limit was 315.

[Lanny]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Wow! Memories! (some fuzzy!) I don't remember Jack's car number but was it your car he wrecked at Jackson and broke (or nearly broke) his neck? I seem to remember the car going up in the air and coming down on it's nose and spinning every which way. I grew up on a farm about 15 miles east of Jackson and watched the races in the late '50's and early '60's when the cubic inch limit was 315.

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I was at the Jackson races a couple weeks after Jacks big wreck.
Jack was driving a friends race car that night, in the 'A' feature race
and he was wearing a Big Overcoat with the collar pulled up, trying
to hide the cast on his neck.
The flagman must have knew it was McCorkell driving and was
giving him the Black Flag lap after lap, but Jack was leading the race,
and they couldn't get him to stop or pull into the pit, for nuthin, so
they finally threw the Red Flag and stopped the Feature race to get
him outta there.
McCorkell was one tough-ass racer and a blast to watch...



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[hardtimes]

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

RE: Rumbleseat: Given that every Cabriolet came with a rumble seat, I wanted to keep it in mine - but when I had the leather interior done, had them spruce up the design/style of the rumble area, added leather side panels, side pockets, etc - to sort of match the front kick-panels, etc.. The style fits the original build period of customs/cars before WWII (when Earl first did it). Purists may not like it . . . but I'm not a fan of mohair - had it in my first 34, never could stand it.


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I’m not a fan of mohair either, but it is an indicator of an original car.
My rumble seat appears never to have been used, and it is nalgahide or whatever Ford used there ?
My problem is that there is no room for necessaries with rumble seat in there. In old days, I’d ride two people in rumble when going on picnic or fun run...drive in, etc.
Never would let anyone back there with today’s traffic...so wasted room.

Question: is the ‘Quail’ radiator cap correct for any ‘32 ?

[tomcarman]

[QUOTE=hardtimes;1880415]I’m not a fan of mohair either, but it is an indicator of an original car.
My rumble seat appears never to have been used, and it is nalgahide or whatever Ford used there ?
My problem is that there is no room for necessaries with rumble seat in there. In old days, I’d ride two people in rumble when going on picnic or fun run...drive in, etc.
Never would let anyone back there with today’s traffic...so wasted room.

I'll agree the rumble seat leaves little room if any for "necessities". However as we only show the car occasionaly it is a smile getter at car shows. We only allow the grandkids in the rumble seat while entering a car show. They wave and smile while I'm mostly idling in line to get parked hoping it doesn't overheat. I'll take the rumble seat over a trunk every time. It creates lifetime memories for the kids.

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by tomcarman

I'll agree the rumble seat leaves little room if any for "necessities". However as we only show the car occasionaly it is a smile getter at car shows. We only allow the grandkids in the rumble seat while entering a car show. They wave and smile while I'm mostly idling in line to get parked hoping it doesn't overheat. I'll take the rumble seat over a trunk every time. It creates lifetime memories for the kids.

That is a good point. If I have the car parked at an event where kids are around, I open the back up and let them get in it, take pictures, etc.. An awful lot of smiles are generated when you give kids a chance to experience and enjoy one of these old cars. I let them get in front and "drive", etc.. Who knows, maybe one positive experience like that causes them to want to get into these cars later in life . . . that is a great thing for all of us . . .

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by Cool Kat with Hot Car

All original except repaint from the early 1940s. Drives like a new car. Superb original upholstery. DavidG should remember to from the V8 Clubs anniversary meet at Tahoe. Could be for sale.

That is a nice looking sedan! My first old Ford was a 34 four door deluxe sedan - was a very original car except for the 59AB in it. It had an old mohair interior . . . kind of smelled like a "wet cat" most of the year! LOL

[TJ]

Originally Posted by Bored&Stroked

That is a good point. If I have the car parked at an event where kids are around, I open the back up and let them get in it, take pictures, etc.. An awful lot of smiles are generated when you give kids a chance to experience and enjoy one of these old cars. I let them get in front and "drive", etc.. Who knows, maybe one positive experience like that causes them to want to get into these cars later in life . . . that is a great thing for all of us . . .

Good for you on allowing the kids to sit in the rumble and behind the wheel. those kids will remember that forever. it's great PR for the hobby. You are right as one or more of those kids may get into the hobby at some point.

[tubman]

Originally Posted by 40 Deluxe

Wow! Memories! (some fuzzy!) I don't remember Jack's car number but was it your car he wrecked at Jackson and broke (or nearly broke) his neck? I seem to remember the car going up in the air and coming down on it's nose and spinning every which way. I grew up on a farm about 15 miles east of Jackson and watched the races in the late '50's and early '60's when the cubic inch limit was 315.

Yep, that was an earlier version of the car I have. The body was totally ruined in the crash, so it now has a '34 Chevrolet coach body all cut down. I know it's the same car because of the brake pedal. It is overly large and has a large lip on the left and bottom edges. Word was that it was modified so McCorkell could drive with a walking cast on his leg. I was racing in Jackson in the '90's and got to meet Elmer Thurmer (one of the brothers that built and sponsored the car) and he confirmed the story about the brake pedal.

In my files somewhere I have a picture of the car just after the crash. It was so badly wrecked that it is hardly recognizable. The car ran an Olds "Rocket" back in those days.

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by tubman

Yep, that was an earlier version of the car I have. The body was totally ruined in the crash, so it now has a '34 Chevrolet coach body all cut down. I know it's the same car because of the brake pedal. It is overly large and has a large lip on the left and bottom edges. Word was that it was modified so McCorkell could drive with a walking cast on his leg. I was racing in Jackson in the '90's and got to meet Elmer Thurmer (one of the brothers that built and sponsored the car) and he confirmed the story about the brake pedal.

In my files somewhere I have a picture of the car just after the crash. It was so badly wrecked that it is hardly recognizable. The car ran an Olds "Rocket" back in those days.

Thanks for the added info!
Gotta bring a flathead into the picture. One night a guy from down in southern Iowa somewhere showed up with a real trick rig. It had a Model A sedan body (which flipped up like funny cars did later) on a tube chassis with coil over suspension and an Olds engine. The local guys mostly used '48 and prior Fords with stock type suspension. Anyway, in the 'B' feature this hot dog and a local guy running a flathead were running 1st and 2nd. Lap after lap the flathead with buggy suspension came out of every turn in 1st. The Model A with Olds power would pass about 3/4 way down the straightaways only to get passed in the turns every time. Since the finish line was at half track it was clear who would win. So last turn, last lap the Olds guy got passed so he spun the flathead out and took the win. We in the audience were booing like mad! Well, track officials disqualified the Olds guy and the local guy declared the winner. Wish I could remember who it was. Anyway, Mr. Olds never came back.

[alchemy]

http://deuceheaven.com/

There's quite a collection of NICE 32's right up there in Minnesota. We got a tour a couple years ago, and I can say the cars are amazing! Mostly 100 pt restorations, but many unrestored examples that are unbelievably clean. And his collection of extras and memorabilia is huge too. A super nice guy to top it all off.

[DavidG]

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Mohair??? Originally there were two upholstery options for '32 cabriolets, Russet brown leather and Bedford cord. And all of the rumble seats were upholstered in Russet brown artificial leather.

[DavidG]

I do remember that Tudor sedan at the 2013 Grand National Meet in Lake Tahoe. Very nice car and a super meet. I had the privilege and pleasure to show Ed Warnock's flawless '32 roadster pickup.

[Bored&Stroked]

Originally Posted by DavidG

Mohair??? Originally there were two upholstery options for '32 cabriolets, Russet brown leather and Bedford cord. And all of the rumble seats were upholstered in Russet brown artificial leather.

The rumble seat had the artificial leather and I believe the front seat had Bedford cord underneath the white vinyl covers. (Can't really remember now???)

My comments about mohair were really tied back to my 34 Ford . . . just never really liked pretty much any cloth interior (though many look nice) - they are much harder to keep clean and/or clean if you spill something, have always preferred leather.

[Lanny]

As (alchemy) in post #45 here, posted a link to "Deuce Heaven", showing
Gene Hetlands collection of super nice, mostly original, 1932 Fords, located
in Oak Grove, MN.

In case you missed it, Here is the link, well worth your time to have look at.
Look at the TWO videos posted in the link below.

http://deuceheaven.com/




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[petehoovie]

VIDEOS

1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/aulrikf1lx...%20V8.mp4?dl=0

2. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd80zaewu6...0V7_1.mp4?dl=0