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pgerhardt · 12-27-2015, 07:42 PM

Why fret about getting the initial timing exactly right to a fraction of a degree, when the actual timing while is running will be changed by that big lever on the left of the steering column. I would think that proper use of the advance/retard lever will have a bigger effect on performance than a fraction of a degree off on the initial timing. How many just start on full retard then run on full advance rather than modulating timing to meet various driving conditions?

P.S. · 12-27-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Karl

Marcos method doesn't need a light. Les Andrews does and I wouldn't recommend that either. I have a used the Nu-rex tool and it was ok but not brilliant.

Karl

See post #29. I left out one line.

1930marie · 12-27-2015, 08:44 PM

Welcome 39 to Fordbarn! You have just joined your best source for information to keep your Fords in top running condition. You already have seen 1st hand the beauty of Fordbard with all the excellent advise posted on your thread. Now its up to you to decide what works best for you. When my "A" was unloaded from the car hauler, I had no idea of the fun and stress relief I had just bought myself. There is nothing like working on a Model A! The first thing on my list was to check the brakes and then the timing and carb. Buy Les's book for a starting reference point, order yourself a Nurex wrench (use it until you understand what the guys mean how easy these are to time) it all just takes practice. Someday, you will be making some of these same comments. Practice still makes perfect! Put your coveralls on and have fun! ps nothing more reliable than a properly tuned Model A - especially when you understand the beauty of its design!

SDJason · 12-27-2015, 09:30 PM

I'm starting to sense a bit of passive-aggressiveness in this thread...

tbirdtbird · 12-27-2015, 09:56 PM

how many here would be able to read the dial indicator; that is harder than timing it the Ford way

Mitch//pa · 12-27-2015, 10:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tbirdtbird

how many here would be able to read the dial indicator; that is harder than timing it the Ford way

No problem:

Mike V. Florida · 12-27-2015, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDJason

I'm starting to sense a bit of passive-aggressiveness in this thread...

Me too!

Use what works for you!

Tom Wesenberg · 12-27-2015, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDJason

I'm starting to sense a bit of passive-aggressiveness in this thread...

It's just the eggnog.

ian Simpson · 12-28-2015, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by forever4

Why would anyone ever have to change points on the side of the road?
What conceivable emergency?
It is hard for me to imagine.

Seems to me like another modern solution looking for an imagined problem to solve.

The little fibre thingy that rides on the distributor cam broke off the points on my Bedford van in the fall of 1965. Would you believe I got a replacement set at 1:00 am and had enough tools with me to do the job and get back home in time to go to work.

P.S. · 12-28-2015, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by forever4

I think you are very unclear on the concept.
It does not require a light or ohmmeter, nor do you need to leave the ignition on.

This is very basic. Don't confuse yourself with all your gadgets.

You are mistaken. Marco's method requires the ignition to be on so that you can spark the points. Please re-read his website and you will see that you missed it.

If you want to adjust the Model A timing without leaving the ignition on, then you connect an ohmmeter across the points and proceed per his instructions.

The Nu-Rex tool is not a gadget, it is a real tool. It allows you to set the Model A timing without any electricity at all. That is about as un-gadget as it gets.

marc hildebrant · 12-28-2015, 04:39 PM

I have the tool and it works O.K. It's a good tool to take on the road.

Marco's method does use a meter\light and is more accurate than the Timing Wrench.

Marc

Fred K-OR · 12-28-2015, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDJason

I'm starting to sense a bit of passive-aggressiveness in this thread...

More than a start! (After 55 posts) Could be just frustration of us northern guys sitting in the cold and rainy house!

CarlG · 12-28-2015, 05:54 PM

Hi, my name is Carl, and I am a tool junkie. I will admit that I have a NewRex timing wrench. I will further admit that I have actually used it to time not only my Model A, but several others as well.

I will also admit that I have a Snap-On Head nut wrench that I bought from Vince at The Ford Garage:

ericr · 12-28-2015, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by forever4

I wish people would be reasonable and see things my way!

are you kidding? this mob can't even agree if Marco's instructions require the switch to be on.

msmaron · 12-28-2015, 07:09 PM

fast, simple, quick, and easy...always keep it in your tool bag!!! has never failed me at all!

Tom Wesenberg · 12-28-2015, 07:30 PM

Too many replies has chased away the original poster.

Mitch//pa · 12-28-2015, 07:37 PM

it was the BED BUG that did it

Karl · 12-28-2015, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Too many replies has chased away the original poster.

Don't worry Tom he'll be back to ask what oil to use in his car-Now won't that be fun !!! Karl

Hoogah · 12-28-2015, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Too many replies has chased away the original poster.

Nah, he's just reading this and going "Sheesh!!".

1930marie · 12-28-2015, 10:10 PM

Default Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex
how many here would be able to read the dial indicator; that is harder than timing it the Ford way
__________________
'31 180A

Us M.E.'s (there's others here on FB, plus a multitude of cert. mechanics, I think you just might be surprised! lol. I'm guessing most car folk have at least one in their tool box. lol

12-27-2015, 07:42 PM	#41
pgerhardt Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Danbury Ct Posts: 1,254	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex Why fret about getting the initial timing exactly right to a fraction of a degree, when the actual timing while is running will be changed by that big lever on the left of the steering column. I would think that proper use of the advance/retard lever will have a bigger effect on performance than a fraction of a degree off on the initial timing. How many just start on full retard then run on full advance rather than modulating timing to meet various driving conditions? Last edited by pgerhardt; 12-28-2015 at 03:24 PM.

12-27-2015, 08:44 PM	#43
1930marie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 238	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex Welcome 39 to Fordbarn! You have just joined your best source for information to keep your Fords in top running condition. You already have seen 1st hand the beauty of Fordbard with all the excellent advise posted on your thread. Now its up to you to decide what works best for you. When my "A" was unloaded from the car hauler, I had no idea of the fun and stress relief I had just bought myself. There is nothing like working on a Model A! The first thing on my list was to check the brakes and then the timing and carb. Buy Les's book for a starting reference point, order yourself a Nurex wrench (use it until you understand what the guys mean how easy these are to time) it all just takes practice. Someday, you will be making some of these same comments. Practice still makes perfect! Put your coveralls on and have fun! ps nothing more reliable than a properly tuned Model A - especially when you understand the beauty of its design! __________________ They know enough who know to learn.

12-27-2015, 09:30 PM	#44
SDJason Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 442	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex I'm starting to sense a bit of passive-aggressiveness in this thread...

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marc hildebrant Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 1,128	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex I have the tool and it works O.K. It's a good tool to take on the road. Marco's method does use a meter\light and is more accurate than the Timing Wrench. Marc

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msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex fast, simple, quick, and easy...always keep it in your tool bag!!! has never failed me at all! __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

12-28-2015, 07:30 PM	#56
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex Too many replies has chased away the original poster.

12-28-2015, 07:37 PM	#57
Mitch//pa BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 11,454	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex it was the BED BUG that did it Last edited by Mitch//pa; 12-28-2015 at 09:56 PM.

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1930marie Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 238	Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex Default Re: Model A Timing Wrench By Nu-Rex how many here would be able to read the dial indicator; that is harder than timing it the Ford way __________________ '31 180A Us M.E.'s (there's others here on FB, plus a multitude of cert. mechanics, I think you just might be surprised! lol. I'm guessing most car folk have at least one in their tool box. lol __________________ They know enough who know to learn.