Harmonic Balancer

[katy]

Originally Posted by Ruth

I just wish it wasn't so RED!

It doesn't have to be red, there's different makes available.

[Ruth]

Originally Posted by daveymc29

Most times when you lose a fan belt can't one just drive on home and replace it there. The thermo cycle should keep the water circulating...

I guess it depends on how long your battery lasts.

Originally Posted by katy

It doesn't have to be red, there's different makes available.

Yeah, I saw a gray one after I bought the red one. It's all good. By the looks of this belt it will outlast me. After more research I'm thinking more and more when I install the Balancer I will just run the PowerTwist belt all the time.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Ruth

I guess it depends on how long your battery lasts.

Most batteries will last a long, LONG time --especially when the lights are LEDs!! Maybe another reason to use LED bulbs??



I think it is often funny, -almost to the point about being comical how some people are so worried about what if something breaksdown on the side of the road and all the hypothetical what-ifs' that potentially could happen. I've seen guys that carried better parts under the seat of their Model-A as a back-up contingency in case they breakdown going to town to get ice cream on a Saturday evening. Why not properly restore each and every component for peace of mind and leave all the spare stuff at home?? Then on the very slim chance that something does malfunction, whip out the trusty AAA card and have them tote you & your car home where it can be repaired in a less-stressful environment called your Garage.

[wensum]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Most batteries will last a long, LONG time --especially when the lights are LEDs!! Maybe another reason to use LED bulbs??



I think it is often funny, -almost to the point about being comical how some people are so worried about what if something breaksdown on the side of the road and all the hypothetical what-ifs' that potentially could happen. I've seen guys that carried better parts under the seat of their Model-A as a back-up contingency in case they breakdown going to town to get ice cream on a Saturday evening. Why not properly restore each and every component for peace of mind and leave all the spare stuff at home?? Then on the very slim chance that something does malfunction, whip out the trusty AAA card and have them tote you & your car home where it can be repaired in a less-stressful environment called your Garage.

My philosophy to a Tee (or should that be an A?) one of my reasons for going back to an A after owning some reasonably exotic vintage cars, was its simplicity and the readily available spare parts. I carry no spares but have had to call on the AA once which ultimately proved to be a loose wire on the ignition switch, my fault and not a failure of any Model A component.

[Purdy Swoft]

Originally Posted by katy

It doesn't have to be red, there's different makes available.

The red pulley would be faster .

[johnneilson]

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Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

The red pulley would be faster .

worth at least 2 HP.........

[Cool Hand Lurker]

Originally Posted by wensum

My philosophy to a Tee (or should that be an A?) one of my reasons for going back to an A after owning some reasonably exotic vintage cars, was its simplicity and the readily available spare parts. I carry no spares but have had to call on the AA once which ultimately proved to be a loose wire on the ignition switch, my fault and not a failure of any Model A component.

You should have called the AAA. If you really did call AA they would make you come to meetings.

Whoops, I see that you are from New Zealand. In the USA, "AAA" is the
American Automobile Association and "AA" means Alcoholics Anonymous.

[wensum]

We have an electric fan with a manual switch and very rarely need to switch it on. We keep an eye on the motometer and when the red starts to show which is usually only in serious stop-start traffic, we switch the fan on and it very quickly pulls the temperature down. The real point here is that in normal touring there is no need for a fan (this with an improved fast road motor running 7:1 head)

[The Master Cylinder]

Originally Posted by wensum

We have an electric fan with a manual switch and very rarely need to switch it on. We keep an eye on the motometer and when the red starts to show which is usually only in serious stop-start traffic, we switch the fan on and it very quickly pulls the temperature down. The real point here is that in normal touring there is no need for a fan (this with an improved fast road motor running 7:1 head)

Huh? Ya lost me. I thought we were talking about Harmonic Balancers.

[wensum]

Originally Posted by The Master Cylinder

Huh? Ya lost me. I thought we were talking about Harmonic Balancers.

Yes, but there was some concern about not being able to replace the fan belt if it broke and the discussion turned to how important is the fan and is it really necessary?
I was pointing out that as we don't have a conventional fan, only an electric one, it's surprising how rarely one needs to switch on the fan, proving that one should be able to drive under most conditions without a fan?

[The Master Cylinder]

It didn't occur to me that you were running an electric fan on a Model A. I actually thought you were mistakenly answering another thread in a different forum...

[Flathead]

I would find the generator to be important if we are talking about no belt.

[katy]

You can run a long time without the generator working, especially if you're not using the lights.

[brokenspoke]

How often do fan belts break???? I'm almost 70 and never broke a fan belt

[mfarley]

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[katy]

I've had 2 break over the years, both on modern vehicles, both GM products, never had a belt break on a Ford product. Strange.

[Tom Wesenberg]

In 1964 I used my uncle's 1947 Dodge business coupe to take a drive in to the farm, and sure enough the belt broke. I tied a piece of rope around the fan and crank to drive 20 miles back to his house.


In the mid 80's the fan belt broke on my 1949 Chevy 1 1/2 ton truck when I was 200 miles from home. I was by a tractor shop and found out the Farmall tractor used the same belt. I think it's also the same belt as the Model A uses.

[old31]

I am thinking of installing a Murray harmonic balancer. The problem I see is that I have an alternator that looks like a generator. There is not much room between the block and the lower water pipe, maybe a 1/4" between the two.

So my belt is tight as it is and when I need to move the alternator, it barely fits on. I cant see jacking up the engine to move the alt, or work on the fan/water pump.

Any ideas?

[denniskliesen]

The harmonic balancer I got from Murray is about 1/4” diameter smaller than the original one piece I had on there. If that helps any.

[Synchro909]

If you have to remove the belt for any reason, you always remove it from the smallest pulley first and put it on the reverse way. That would be the water pump or alternator so if you loosen the belt and take it off the water pump, you should have enough slack to do what ever you want.

So my belt is tight as it is and when I need to move the alternator, it barely fits on. I cant see jacking up the engine to move the alt, or work on the fan/water pump.

Any ideas?

I'm guessing here but it seems to me that your water outlet at the bottom of the raditor might be in the wrong place. My lower hose is further from the block and I can vary it by twisting the whole hose and tube assembly. So much so that even with a belt 2" longer than spec, I can still have the belt clear the hose with it tensioned. That gives oodles of room to back off the alternator far enough to slip the belt off. Then, when the belt is slipped off the water pump too, it is VERY loose.