The Ford Barn

panhead_pete · 11-21-2021, 08:30 PM

Im giving serious thought to removing the cowl lights on my 34 3W. If I was to do this I would like to fill the holes to stop water ingress etc. Has anyone that has done this come up with a discrete rubber plug or similar to fill the hole? Really dont want to weld them shut.

petehoovie · 11-21-2021, 08:45 PM

Why are you considering this? Is it that your '34 is a hot rod?

woodiewagon46 · 11-21-2021, 08:52 PM

McMaster-Carr makes "push in panel plugs" in almost any size, they might work.

panhead_pete · 11-21-2021, 09:50 PM

Yes Petehoovie its for a non Fordbarn compliant car hence why I didnt post a pic.

Thanks woodiewagon I now know what they are called, cheers.

Newc · 11-21-2021, 10:05 PM

There are plugs with rubber gaskets for electrical panels- gray plastic. Newc

Mart · 11-22-2021, 12:47 PM

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I fitted a stainless capped bumper bolt where my cowl lamp had been fitted.
Mart.

PeteVS · 11-22-2021, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panhead_pete

Yes Petehoovie its for a non Fordbarn compliant car hence why I didnt post a pic.

Many folks on this site would welcome a glimpse of a hot rod. (in fact, I think I see more "modified" cars here than bone stock.) I feel that the Model A crowd is way narrower in their outlook. I even got away showing a corner of an orange engine.

panhead_pete · 11-23-2021, 02:16 AM

@Mart thanks, thats an interesting alternative, appreciate it.

@PeteVS thanks for your interest. I always try and respect the forums Im on but seeing as you asked will post just one small pic. It finally arrived in Japan 5 months after buying it and was owned in Maryland prior. 70s build that languished under a tarp for 20yrs before being saved some time ago. Rather than clutter up here with a hotrod I have a thread on the HAMB if others are interested.

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...japan.1248273/

JayChicago · 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM

One bloke’s opinion:
Why remove the cowl lights? I have always (since high school) thought cowl lights are one of the cool details on cars of this era. Hot rod or not, cowl lights look good in my opinion. Wish they were available on my ‘37 hot rod.

petehoovie · 11-23-2021, 04:50 PM

What JayChicago said above - They Look "cool" and can be made functional as turn signals...

petehoovie · 11-23-2021, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panhead_pete

@PeteVS Seeing as you asked will post just one small pic. It finally arrived in Japan 5 months after buying it and was owned in Maryland prior. 70s build that languished under a tarp for 20yrs before being saved some time ago. Rather than clutter up here with a hotrod I have a thread on the HAMB if others are interested.....
https://www.jalopyjourn al.com/forum/threads/1934-3w-in-japan.1248273/

petehoovie · 11-23-2021, 05:01 PM

Do your best to save it....

panhead_pete · 11-23-2021, 06:13 PM

The car is actually surprisingly solid by the looks of things. As someone else pointed out that bog was probably put in to make up for the lack of crown in the insert. Ive smothered the car in Gibbs as of now and will try what I can but am not sure that roof will pass through the initial tech inspection here. The rest of the paint is faking off though, just sitting in the garage. Looks a bit like dandruff

I have turn signal inserts for the cowl lights but they may be a bit high and far back for inspection here even though I can get the car licenced without. I know that sounds odd but having lived here 7 years the mentality will be if they are fitted they will have to be within a certain set of specs...

11-21-2021, 08:30 PM	#1
panhead_pete Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hakuba Nagano Japan Posts: 210	34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? Im giving serious thought to removing the cowl lights on my 34 3W. If I was to do this I would like to fill the holes to stop water ingress etc. Has anyone that has done this come up with a discrete rubber plug or similar to fill the hole? Really dont want to weld them shut. __________________ Looking for an unrestored 33 34 3W or 5W coupe. Thanks

11-21-2021, 08:45 PM	#2
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,080	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? Why are you considering this? Is it that your '34 is a hot rod? __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0 Last edited by petehoovie; 11-21-2021 at 08:51 PM.

11-21-2021, 08:52 PM	#3
woodiewagon46 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Long Island,NY Posts: 1,555	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? McMaster-Carr makes "push in panel plugs" in almost any size, they might work.

11-21-2021, 09:50 PM	#4
panhead_pete Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hakuba Nagano Japan Posts: 210	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? Yes Petehoovie its for a non Fordbarn compliant car hence why I didnt post a pic. Thanks woodiewagon I now know what they are called, cheers. __________________ Looking for an unrestored 33 34 3W or 5W coupe. Thanks

11-21-2021, 10:05 PM	#5
Newc Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,482	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? There are plugs with rubber gaskets for electrical panels- gray plastic. Newc

11-22-2021, 12:47 PM	#6
Mart Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Solihull, England. Posts: 8,745	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I fitted a stainless capped bumper bolt where my cowl lamp had been fitted. Mart.

11-23-2021, 12:45 PM	#9
JayChicago Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Chicago Posts: 728	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? One bloke’s opinion: Why remove the cowl lights? I have always (since high school) thought cowl lights are one of the cool details on cars of this era. Hot rod or not, cowl lights look good in my opinion. Wish they were available on my ‘37 hot rod.

11-23-2021, 04:50 PM	#10
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,080	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? What JayChicago said above - They Look "cool" and can be made functional as turn signals... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

11-23-2021, 05:01 PM	#12
petehoovie Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 8,080	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? Do your best to save it.... __________________ The only thing nice about being imperfect is the joy it brings to others.... *"Silver rings, your butt! Them's washers!"* "We shot our way out of that town for a dollar's worth of steel holes!" - from 'The Wild Bunch' - 1969 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NReUd2_0u0

11-23-2021, 06:13 PM	#13
panhead_pete Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Hakuba Nagano Japan Posts: 210	Re: 34 Ford Removing Cowl Lights then??? The car is actually surprisingly solid by the looks of things. As someone else pointed out that bog was probably put in to make up for the lack of crown in the insert. Ive smothered the car in Gibbs as of now and will try what I can but am not sure that roof will pass through the initial tech inspection here. The rest of the paint is faking off though, just sitting in the garage. Looks a bit like dandruff I have turn signal inserts for the cowl lights but they may be a bit high and far back for inspection here even though I can get the car licenced without. I know that sounds odd but having lived here 7 years the mentality will be if they are fitted they will have to be within a certain set of specs... __________________ Looking for an unrestored 33 34 3W or 5W coupe. Thanks