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Old 01-05-2013, 10:34 PM   #41
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Just got it on the stand.
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:55 AM   #42
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Great post, Thanks for starting it off, 38coupe. Thanks to the other contributors too.

I missed this the first time round. I've been interested if flattys for decades now, and this is the first time I saw or even heard about the lipped guides and big springs.

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Old 01-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #43
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I call them core plugs for cleaning sand out of the casting. Walt
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:23 AM   #44
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Yes, this is very educational, I'd like to see the inside of the valve valley more clearly.
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Old 01-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #45
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Like Mart, I too missed this post the first time around. Very interesting and informative. Many thanks to all who contributed.
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Old 01-06-2013, 12:53 PM   #46
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If you are talking about 33-34 - v - 35-36 here lemme know exactly what you want to see as I have both examples in my basement and I'll get pics for you .
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Old 01-06-2013, 03:01 PM   #47
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I'd like to see how the main bolts fit into the valley. This is similar ti JWL suggestion for strengthening the crankshaft. Did the front main also come into the valley?? Thanks great pics.
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:15 PM   #48
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Thanks 38 coupe, great read, like others I missed it the first time around, and I will come back and read again..... ...OLD....BILL
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Old 01-06-2013, 04:15 PM   #49
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Hey Ron, those early blocks 32-3-4 had long main bolts that when down round holes in the valley. the bolts had square heads like a Model A main bearing bolt. You had to have a thin wall square deep socket to go down the hole to hold the head of the bolt. All 3 mains had those bolts. They were a pain in the a--. i'm glade they did away with those in 35. Walt
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Here you are and sorry bout the cobwebs as this thing has been asleep for some time .The holes are sometimes filled with gook and like Walt said they can be a pain to deal with as the square heads don't take a normal socket .
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I'd like to see how the main bolts fit into the valley. This is similar ti JWL suggestion for strengthening the crankshaft. Did the front main also come into the valley?? Thanks great pics.
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Old 01-06-2013, 07:38 PM   #51
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Thanks for the pictures. It helps me understand more the correctness of the motor with the car I have. It's all pointing toward being the right block so far, according to the great information on this site. Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:44 PM   #52
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Yes, Thank you very much. I like this method of holding in the crank, I wonder why ford changed to studs. Cheaper??
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:20 PM   #53
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I keep seeing posts about identifying a flathead motor. I have been waiting for someone to do a nice post, or thread, with pictures identifying each style of flathead V8 block. In the absence of that, I'll do the next best thing; I volunteer to put the list together. I can provide pictures of an 8BA block, a 39 Mercury block, and probably a 36 LB block. I need pictures of the other blocks. If anyone has a bare block, or pictures of a bare block, could you post, or message me with the pictures?

A list of the production line blocks, this list does not include replacement blocks:
1932 - straight down drain cocks, no recessed area at front of motor
1933 - early had angled drain cocks, no recessed area at front of motor
late had angled drain cocks, start of recessed area
1934 - same as late 33
1935 - start of crankcase ventilation, late castings have insert mains
1936 - insert mains
1937 - relocated water pumps
1938 - early, same as 37
late, 24 stud heads
1939 - Ford similar to 38 with larger mains
Mercury larger bore
1940 - same as 39 both Ford and Mercury
1941 - No freeze plugs in oil pan rail, intake area now looks raised
1942 - same as 41 both Ford and Mercury
WW2 - no one really knows
1946 - the 59 series engines, valve angle changed, fails pencil test, etc
1947 - same as 46
1948 - cars same as 46-47. new pickups get 8BA
1949 - 8BA: removable bell housing, changed water passages
1950 - 8BA sometime around here the intake valve seats were eliminated
1951 - 8BA
1952 - 8BA sometime around here the exhuast valve seats were eliminated
1953 - 8BA
1954 - Austrialians and others used 8BA for last year, no USA flatheads

What I would like for pictures is: a front picture, a top picture, and a rear picture.

If this goes well, I would like to do the same with heads, intakes, carburetors, distributors, etc.

Thanks!
Can you post pictures of the "recessed area" that is mentioned on the 1932 through 1933 blocks?
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Old 04-02-2013, 05:47 PM   #54
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Thanks for a great thread-lots of information.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:41 AM   #55
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What you seek is already here . Post 14 has a pic of a one of my 33 motors from the front showing the " recess " . Post 35 has pics of a 32 " non-recessed " block of Randys . If you double click on the 33 pic it will show you a bigger version of the pic . The RH recess on 35-36 blocks is shallower to allow for the vent passage .
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:44 AM   #56
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See post # 25 . No room for the RF or either rear bolts on vented blocks .
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Yes, Thank you very much. I like this method of holding in the crank, I wonder why ford changed to studs. Cheaper??
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:20 AM   #57
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These are from my 53' Merc. Feel free to use any of these. I have pictures of the finished engine if you want.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:26 PM   #58
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Randy;
Great 32 block pictures! Good - Good!
Good thread 38 Coupe and all posters--still much to learn filling in details on each model.
Still looking for 59 "a" (&"AB" if?) USA block, not head, pictures. Canada 59s covered OK , at least to begin--separate Thread? No slight intended.
Any others have clear pictures of USA 59 variant "letter" blocks?
Upside Y , L blocks have been uploaded.
Anyone with X, Z, V, others?
Fun and getting better!

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Old 04-04-2013, 06:52 PM   #59
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This will be two postings
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:56 PM   #60
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Hope this is what you are looking for...I bought this engine just to learn with.
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