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Old 12-15-2014, 07:42 PM   #221
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Make that third gear and block the wheels as well.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:27 PM   #222
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Make that third gear and block the wheels as well.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:03 AM   #223
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Trying to loosen Timing Nut. Motor no longer turning but remember the front motor mounts are off and as I attempt to loosen, the engine is noticeably moving in the direction of the force exerted. Nut has not yet cracked loose. Note I have been spraying each day for 3 days PB penetrating oil on nut. I just sprayed some more will try around lunch time. My some has air impact wrench...maybe can crack nut loose...Can it damage?

Each time I attempt to counter clockwise turn the Nut the motor noticable moves with the wrench. Maybe I can wedge a block of wood between the motor and frame?
No hurry.. I will wait...consider what to do next
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:00 AM   #224
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You might wish to consider cutting a piece of 2" x 4" lumber and wedging it between the exhaust manifold and the inside of the chassis frame rail on the right side. Heat will not harm anything as long as it is used in moderation (don't boil the oil) and an impact wrench should be helpful.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:30 AM   #225
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Thanks Frank,
Just remember, in retrospect that those events that produced the greatest challenges also reaped the greatest victories.
We have all been through this and your perseverance and tenacity is inspiring to all of us busted knuckled wrenchers.
Don't rush the PB process.
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Old 12-16-2014, 01:31 PM   #226
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I remember using a long pipe slipped over the breaker bar when I removed mine. It worked...but boy it was on there tight. Hang in there Frank...I'm rootin' for ya!
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:23 PM   #227
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Order a new nut and Use a big chisel ,the shock will get it off You may be able to tidy the old nut up with a file after its off. The chances of you needing to change it again in the futcher will be slim .
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Old 12-16-2014, 02:32 PM   #228
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I'd try using a mallet to shock the breaker bar. Use caution. An air impact gun would be good (I guess) if you can get a straight shot at it. A piece of stock welded to the special socket so you could whack it with a hammer would also probably be good. Hopefully (as Ted says) this will be a once in a lifetime job.

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Old 12-16-2014, 07:40 PM   #229
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I think your drive train is absorbing the energy,
I would put a piece of pipe through the pulley and the other end on frame.Then even block the pan.Then get a piece of pipe and lenghten to braker bar and pull down from pass side,even get hammer and hit end of braker bar.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:11 AM   #230
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I remember using a long pipe slipped over the breaker bar when I removed mine. It worked...but boy it was on there tight. Hang in there Frank...I'm rootin' for ya!
The long pipe on the breaker bar is a great idea! Thanks

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Old 12-17-2014, 10:20 AM   #231
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Check the origin of the breaker bar before using a cheater.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:11 PM   #232
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Check the origin of the breaker bar before using a cheater.
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Old 12-17-2014, 12:15 PM   #233
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He's alluding to a cheaper quality bar not being able to take the extra leverage of putting a length of tube on it.

(Non USA origin is weaker than good ole USA origin)

I don't necessarily agree or disagree, just 'splaining what was meant.

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Old 12-17-2014, 12:36 PM   #234
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He's alluding to a cheaper quality bar not being able to take the extra leverage of putting a length of tube on it.

(Non USA origin is weaker than good ole USA origin)

I don't necessarily agree or disagree, just 'splaining what was meant.

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Old 12-17-2014, 12:42 PM   #235
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Guys, (I'm not a 4 banger type) this ain't a left hand thread, is it?

Just checking.

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Old 12-17-2014, 12:45 PM   #236
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No, they're RH threads.
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:38 PM   #237
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No, they're RH threads.
me too, checking again, Turn counter clockwise to remove...Right?
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Old 12-17-2014, 01:43 PM   #238
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Yeah, Frank, righty tighty lefty loosey. (For a conventional righthand thread)

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Old 12-17-2014, 09:21 PM   #239
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Bought a 6 ft steel pipe to augment the breaker bar. New problem....
wrench keeps slipping off the nut. That thing is really on there. Two man job unless I glue the wrench on the nut with JB weld.
I can dissolve the epoxy after removed. But, Rather not glue in case the bond fails then I will have adhesive residue that will interfere with proper wrench fit.
I will have my son help me this weekend.
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Old 12-17-2014, 09:47 PM   #240
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Trying to do things the money way isn't working for you.
They didn't have these tools in the day.
I would get a round heavy duty punch or chisel and a big hammer.
They sell new hex nuts so beat the snot out of it.
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