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Old 01-12-2016, 11:38 PM   #1
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Default Is this Washington Blue?

We are pretty sure we're painting the truck blue like it was on the farm. Is this truck here Washington Blue u think. It's a color listed from 1936. Thanks.
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Old 01-13-2016, 06:49 AM   #2
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Go to this site and on the left is G B Y, see the images there.

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Old 01-13-2016, 06:52 AM   #3
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The original Washington Blue was very dark and in certain light condition
was almost black in appearance. I would recommend going to a local auto paint
supplier in your area and asking them to advise you on what PPG considers to
be their current offering for this shade. Many years ago when I did my 32 5win
I wanted it to be Washington Blue and ended up with a shade of blue that could
have been darker. So, in essence, I would advise taking your time finding the
correct shade as PPG and Xalta (formerly Dupont) shades vary tremendously.
The blue on the truck in the photo also seems too light to me.

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Old 01-13-2016, 07:34 AM   #4
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I was always led to believe there were two Washington Blues, early and late. The chips showing the early colour always appeared very dark but then cars I believed to be accurate either in originality or restoration appeared much lighter, at least they do in pictures. For example;
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:36 AM   #5
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Factory original paint (not wheels!) roadster I believe for which paint may have faded and distorted by photography I guess but would take David Rehors advice as to accuracy...
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:47 AM   #6
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Hard to say without seeing it in person, cameras, lighting all REALLY change the color. From your picture, to me, it looks more Colonial Blue, as the later versions of Washington Blue, as Deuce Addict said, look almost black in low light or shaded areas. BUT your in the ball park between the Washington Blue of Model A, 1932 Era and of 1936 Era.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:56 AM   #7
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Case in point, here are three photos of our 35, the first one in the paint booth looks almost black, the second one in the pure sun light looks almost colonial blue and the third one in a more EVEN light looks Washington Blue
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:17 AM   #8
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Wasn't the 1935 dark blue- Dearborn Blue?
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:38 AM   #9
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The '32 and '36 Washington blues are not the same color. They of course have different "M" numbers as the former was lacquer and the latter enamel, but there were also enamel and lacquer counterparts in both model years for repair purposes. (Ford's list of materials such as paints and primers had unique numbers for each different item on the list and these are known as "M" numbers within Ford.)

As an aside, the M-numbers for the 1932 version remained unchanged throughout 1932 which strongly suggests that there was only one color throughout the model year. Normally Ford assigned a new number when the shade of a paint color was changed, such as the change in the shade of the lacquer color black that occurred in December, 1932.

Robert's photos are testament to the impact of the intensity and source of light can have on color perception, especially on medium and dark colors such as blue, green, and maroon.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:59 AM   #10
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Washington blue, Dearborn Blue, and Duncan Blue. All very confusing to me....
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Old 01-13-2016, 02:53 PM   #11
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Not sure it carried into the V8 Era but there was also a Riviera Blue too, in the Model A's
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Old 01-13-2016, 03:00 PM   #12
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This may or may not help, I took these at the 05 Western National, same camera, CLOSE to the same light conditions, not sure BUT good comparison of Colonial and Washington MAYBE???
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Old 01-13-2016, 05:01 PM   #13
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Robert,

With respect, there are well-defined shadows in the top photo and none in the lower photo so I'd say the light conditions were quite different (as in sun's out and sun's behind a cloud).
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:20 PM   #14
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The second may have been taken just before the sun cleared the tree tops in the morning, it was 2005 and hard to remember which order I took the photo's.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:32 PM   #15
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The original Washington Blue was very dark and in certain light condition
was almost black in appearance. I would recommend going to a local auto paint
supplier in your area and asking them to advise you on what PPG considers to
be their current offering for this shade. Many years ago when I did my 32 5win
I wanted it to be Washington Blue and ended up with a shade of blue that could
have been darker. So, in essence, I would advise taking your time finding the
correct shade as PPG and Xalta (formerly Dupont) shades vary tremendously.
The blue on the truck in the photo also seems too light to me.

Peter
You might be thinking about Dearborn Blue? It's almost black, That truck definitely looks like a little lighter (grey primer)Washington Blue.
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https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77180
http://www.paintref.com/cgi-bin/pain...%20Blue%7C1692
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:43 PM   #16
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I am not an expert, but here is the car I just finished a few months ago. I used the paint color chip from the old Ditzler /PPG early Ford brochure for Washington Blue #1246 listed for 1931-32 Ford. Compared this chip to the printed color "chip" in David's 32 book and they are visually the same. (one being printed and the other an actual paint chip). Matched this exactly with DuPont Nason single stage paint. Interestingly enough , there is a "standard" color in the Nason paint world that is 99 to 100% exact match. Pics show the finished car. Painted it myself. don't laugh,please. Paint is over black primer/sealer. Note how dark the color is out of direct sunlight (front view) compared to the filtered winter sunlight in the other view. The chip by itself looks almost black until you lay it against an actual black chip or the black belting color on the car.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:24 AM   #17
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I could not find a good Washington blue when I wanted to paint my roadster a few years ago. I saw Bob Drake's new roadster on display at the LA Roadsters show and it was Washington blue. I asked Bob where he found the paint and he asked me to contact contact him after the show. Bob lived up to his word and gave me the paint code for the color he got from his body shop. I took it to my paint supplier and he mixed uo some for me. When I went back to pick it up, He told me it was the same code as '64 Chevy truck Balboa blue. It looks like Washington blue to me and everyone else that sees it.
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We are pretty sure we're painting the truck blue like it was on the farm. Is this truck here Washington Blue u think. It's a color listed from 1936. Thanks.
Hi.... The only Ford Colour I know of close to that is the original Ford colour called Dearborn Blue... 👍
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While we're talking BLUE '36 FORDS, we can't forget "Bambalino Blue"...which of course, can't begin to be confused with Washington Blue. DD


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Old 11-17-2019, 07:13 PM   #20
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>>>While we're talking BLUE '36 FORDS, we can't forget "Bambalino Blue"...which of course, can't begin to be confused with Washington Blue. DD>>>


You forgot 'BambinoBlue'. Very similarly spelled. And probably has a different 'M" number. Nothing like 'NavyBlue' or 'HillStreetBlue' both of which can easily pass as one of the two WashingtonBlues. Jack E/NJ
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