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Old 11-14-2019, 07:37 PM   #1
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Default Spreading a Reversed Rear 32 Spring

Not sure how others do this but it worked out pretty well...I did have straps in case something kicked but i removed them before i took pics.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:26 PM   #2
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I did mine by putting the main leaf on first (by itself), then adding all the other leaves and cranking them down with a long bolt in the middle, with a bunch of C-clamps. It was not dangerous, but was a pain in the butt. The problem is that with the curved shape, the leaves want to kick-off the centerline (as I couldn't put the U-clamps in place until it was all compressed. Was a lot of screwing around with some large structural C-clamps (not your normal backyard stuff).

I think I'll make a special spring device that is designed for these goofy dang 32 - 34 springs!
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: Spreading a Reversed Rear 32 Spring

I also put on springs by just installing the main leaf first and then adding the other leaves with a long bolt. Wasn't hard at all. Regular C clamps worked for me.
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Old 11-14-2019, 08:57 PM   #4
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Not sure how others do this but it worked out pretty well...I did have straps in case something kicked but i removed them before i took pics.
I was impressed that you used stainless unistrut.
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:07 AM   #5
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I did mine by putting the main leaf on first (by itself), then adding all the other leaves and cranking them down with a long bolt in the middle, with a bunch of C-clamps. It was not dangerous, but was a pain in the butt. The problem is that with the curved shape, the leaves want to kick-off the centerline (as I couldn't put the U-clamps in place until it was all compressed. Was a lot of screwing around with some large structural C-clamps (not your normal backyard stuff).

I think I'll make a special spring device that is designed for these goofy dang 32 - 34 springs!
I tried that first...Man...Its was tough trying it that way. Not sure what is was doing wrong? They twisted and moved all over the place. Slip plate i put on didnt help im sure. When i got in compressed they then shifted around so bad i couldnt get the bolt out to put the correct on in. I was beating on the bolt so hard the pack started twist and shift. I gave up, lol. I have a bunch of giant c-clamps also. It just seemed the surface was on and angle and beating on it was moving them to the point i would never get the correct bolt back into the stacked up holes....

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Old 11-15-2019, 07:09 AM   #6
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I was impressed that you used stainless unistrut.
lol, not stainless just plated...Everyone knows uni strut has a billion purposes...LOL
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:32 AM   #7
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This is what I came up with to spread my reverse eyed spring. A couple of pieces of c-channel and two bolts per side on the bottom side of the spring. The bolt closest to the eye traps the channel from moving and the other bolt is what I push against with my homemade spreader. It works pretty slick, is safe and was easy to make.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:46 AM   #8
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If you've never worked with a curved 32-34 spring - trust me - it is WAY different than dealing with any straight/normal spring of any shape. No comparison when it comes to assembly work!

As Ian noted, when you take them apart, and just try to lay them back together - you have the various leaves going all over the place. It is terribly frustrating to say the least. Then - try to do all of that while you're also trying to compress the spring (because you have the main leaf already mounted) - you will have one heck of a battle on your hands! To make maters even worse, take a Posies "super slide" spring with all the cute little plastic "pucks" that don't even snap-in and stay where they're supposed too, then power coat the leaves - try putting one of those together without some special "jig" - nightmare boys . . . a nightmare!

Truthfully, I wish Henry had never made this spring - but, we have to live with it! LOL
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If you've never worked with a curved 32-34 spring - trust me - it is WAY different than dealing with any straight/normal spring of any shape. No comparison when it comes to assembly work!

As Ian noted, when you take them apart, and just try to lay them back together - you have the various leaves going all over the place. It is terribly frustrating to say the least. Then - try to do all of that while you're also trying to compress the spring (because you have the main leaf already mounted) - you will have one heck of a battle on your hands! To make maters even worse, take a Posies "super slide" spring with all the cute little plastic "pucks" that don't even snap-in and stay where they're supposed too, then power coat the leaves - try putting one of those together without some special "jig" - nightmare boys . . . a nightmare!

Truthfully, I wish Henry had never made this spring - but, we have to live with it! LOL
Lol, i covered the leaves in slip plate...It was like stacking ice cubes, lol...
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:06 AM   #10
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I just made a spring sprayer so I can change the front and rear spring on my 32. I had one like this that I use on Model A's Manny times. I will tie the springs so they can't fly up and kill me. e will see how this works.
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Old 11-15-2019, 09:19 AM   #11
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I just made a spring sprayer so I can change the front and rear spring on my 32. I had one like this that I use on Model A's Manny times. I will tie the springs so they can't fly up and kill me. e will see how this works.
Nice work! I found the front spring if you build the pack first, and span a chunk of 2x4 slightly shorter than the first leaf, on its underside, one c-clamp will spread it with ease. I think it would be easier on your paint job. I kinda messed up the paint on my rear spring with all the failed experimenting i did. I even nicked the backing plate on one side with clamps falling and frustration. Your spreader tool looks nice and solid! I love seeing everyone's ideas they come up with on this site...I have learned a lot!
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It doesn't get a whole lot simpler than two pieces of angle bolted together over each end of the main leaf to form two pockets for the spreader to fit into. DD


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When I put the short piece 2/4 under the spring to slide on I grease the 2/4 on top to slide on. Its helps a good bit.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:50 AM   #14
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It doesn't get a whole lot simpler than two pieces of angle bolted together over each end of the main leaf to form two pockets for the spreader to fit into. DD



I basically did the same thing but used uni-strut. My shackle plates/caps stick out further that the eye of the spring so i used a smaller pc of uni-strut just so that they would clear the uni-strut (angle) in your case.
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:05 PM   #15
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Looks to me like there are a lot of very ingenious folks in The Barn.
Thanks for sharing excellent ideas.
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Looks to me like there are a lot of very ingenious folks in The Barn.
Thanks for sharing excellent ideas.

You know, you ain't been no slouch when it comes to ideas, Jim! DD
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We all was not born in a barn you know!
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We all was not born in a barn you know!
I was born a month early . . . and backwards . . . been working away like that ever since . . . except now I'm always more than a month late!
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It doesn't get a whole lot simpler than two pieces of angle bolted together over each end of the main leaf to form two pockets for the spreader to fit into. DD


This is what I was going to make . . . before I decided to "save time" . . . well you know how that usually goes! LOL
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