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Old 10-26-2016, 02:32 PM   #1
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Default Improved style front license plate brackets

I saw a picture in the Ford Service Bulletin of a "new and improved style" front license plate bracket that used mounting screws through the holes in the license plate. Those same screws clamped the bracket to the headlight crossbar, unlike my current brackets that only clamp onto the license plate, not using the holes in the plate.

Anyone reproducing those improved brackets?

I would like to buy some as my plate constantly bends backwards against the radiator.
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Old 10-26-2016, 02:47 PM   #2
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I saw a picture in the Ford Service Bulletin of a "new and improved style" front license plate bracket that used mounting screws through the holes in the license plate. Those same screws clamped the bracket to the headlight crossbar, unlike my current brackets that only clamp onto the license plate, not using the holes in the plate.
Not sure what you're asking. Are you looking for clamps like these?
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/license-brackets
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I saw a picture in the Ford Service Bulletin of a "new and improved style" front license plate bracket that used mounting screws through the holes in the license plate. Those same screws clamped the bracket to the headlight crossbar, unlike my current brackets that only clamp onto the license plate, not using the holes in the plate.

Anyone reproducing those improved brackets?

I would like to buy some as my plate constantly bends backwards against the radiator.
Instead of looking up the service bulletin, R U talking about something like this?

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I really like that style frame.
Do they still sell them
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Ed I guess you have 60% air flow left...a radiator with 100% flow is needed with that jewlery
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Snyders has them in their catalog, I do not know if they are a good reproduction, or a poor reproduction. I have originals on my two vehicles.


Page 351 Ford Service Bulletin for June
NEW LICENSE PLATE CLIP
A few complaints have been received of the
front license plate working loose and causing
a rattle. This condition has been corrected
by re-designing the clip and mounting the
license plate as shown in Fig. 715.
When installing the new license clip install
it exactly as shown, also be sure to place an
A-22166 plain washer underneath the bolt head.
The installation of a washer at this point pre-
vents any possibility of the bolt head cutting
through the license plate.

Fig 715
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Snyders has them in their catalog, I do not know if they are a good reproduction, or a poor reproduction. I have originals on my two vehicles.


Page 351 Ford Service Bulletin for June
NEW LICENSE PLATE CLIP
A few complaints have been received of the
front license plate working loose and causing
a rattle. This condition has been corrected
by re-designing the clip and mounting the
license plate as shown in Fig. 715.
When installing the new license clip install
it exactly as shown, also be sure to place an
A-22166plainwasherunderneath the bolt head.
The installation of a washer at this point pre-
vents any possibility of the bolt head cutting
through the license plate.

Fig 715

I took the poster as describing the four holes, one in each corner but....DOH!!! I doubt if he's talking about Illinois plates.
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Old 10-26-2016, 04:23 PM   #8
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Ed I guess you have 60% air flow left...a radiator with 100% flow is needed with that jewlery
I always watch the temp and check it by thermal means every time I stop for any length of time and since I had the new rad put in, temp hasn't been over 169 degrees......average has mostly been around 149.................
Thermo on the motometer has never gone up to the bubble even, climbing hills. On flat roads, I don't see it at all and I run 45-50 MPH but Larry has had her up to 60.
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Snyders has them in their catalog, I do not know if they are a good reproduction, or a poor reproduction. I have originals on my two vehicles.


Page 351 Ford Service Bulletin for June
NEW LICENSE PLATE CLIP
A few complaints have been received of the
front license plate working loose and causing
a rattle. This condition has been corrected
by re-designing the clip and mounting the
license plate as shown in Fig. 715.
When installing the new license clip install
it exactly as shown, also be sure to place an
A-22166 plain washer underneath the bolt head.
The installation of a washer at this point pre-
vents any possibility of the bolt head cutting
through the license plate.

Fig 715
Yes, that is exactly the improved bracket that I am referring to! Is the Snyders bracket the same? I looked at it and it didn't seem to be? The feature that I like is that the plate is bolted straight through the plate to the bracket.
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Yes, that is exactly the improved bracket that I am referring to! Is the Snyders bracket the same? I looked at it and it didn't seem to be? The feature that I like is that the plate is bolted straight through the plate to the bracket.
Below is fig 715 from page 351 of the Ford Service Bulletin and the bracket sold by Snyder'spage A-159 2016 catalog . They appear the same, Snyder's is upside down and does not show the washer. The service bulletin shows the correct installation.

I need some help with your terminology "The feature that I like is that the plate is bolted straight through the plate to the bracket"?
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Yes, that is exactly the improved bracket that I am referring to! Is the Snyders bracket the same? I looked at it and it didn't seem to be? The feature that I like is that the plate is bolted straight through the plate to the bracket.
My original 1928 clamps also bolt through the top two license holes, but the brackets are hanging from under the bar, rather than over the bar like the later clamps.
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My original 1928 clamps also bolt through the top two license holes, but the brackets are hanging from under the bar, rather than over the bar like the later clamps.
Same on my 1928.
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Tom and Ian, like my own '28 Phaeton, have the correct mounting for the 1928 and (I presume) 1929 license plate attachment. The Service Bulletins show the newly designed pressing (shape) of the brackets as well as the newly designated mounting location.

The design/shape of the earlier brackets of 1928/'29? has more ogee / sculpture in its design, whereas the later 1930/'31 brackets are more straight forward and 'plain' in design. The '28 & '29 brackets mounted the license plate below the headlite bar, whereas the '30 & '31 brackets mounted the plate even with or above the top of the headlite bar.

To the best of my knowledge, only the later (improved) type of the '30 - '31 style are being reproduced today; and they are the only license plate mounting brackets being sold by the dealers. Bert's would be a likely source for the original brackets for 1928 & '29.

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Old 10-27-2016, 02:16 AM   #14
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Why don't you give Berts a try! Wayne
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I wonder if A&L sells the early style license brackets. I thought they were being reproduced.
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I turned my original brackets upside down, mounted the plate to the bolt & the brackets are hidden & the plate sits 1 1/2" above the bar.
On Minerva, I used an upside down, tail light bracket, sandwiched between the bumper bracket & the bumper & it looked like a '32 mounting.
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I wonder if A&L sells the early style license brackets. I thought they were being reproduced.
Yes, they have both styles listed in last years catalog....
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Old 10-27-2016, 06:32 PM   #18
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My original 1928 clamps also bolt through the top two license holes, but the brackets are hanging from under the bar, rather than over the bar like the later clamps.
Tom I did without the front plate, more air flow. No need for one in MN law, but probably don't need the cooling here either.
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No plate required in Ok, as well, but I was lucky my truck is inside the garage yesterday or it would have had a full bed of hail in it, for sure. This was right out my front door and it all dumped in a matter of minutes. By the time it finished, this was nothing compared to how much eventually fell. Quarter size to moth ball size hail and a whole lot of rain, to boot. No cooling issue without a plate to my truck, but I plan to add one in the near future when my custom one arrives for up front. I'll see how that works out then.

I will have to see how the plate looks to see if my light bar will accept it or not where the holes are located in it.
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