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08-28-2021, 08:55 PM | #21 |
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Re: black high gloss single stage paint.
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08-28-2021, 09:11 PM | #22 | |
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08-29-2021, 10:12 AM | #23 |
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Re: black high gloss single stage paint.
40+ years ago I worked in a body shop, the paint cabinet/locker had about 50 different gallons of white and 1 gallon of black. I asked the boss what was the deal, he said black is black. They repaired a lot of cars while I was there and the black was a dead ringer on every car. I'm not a fan of the clearcoat over or the new metallic blacks. I think the black at the shop was Dupont Centari. On occasion he would get a pint of mixing black for matching dark browns, I was told it was a very intense black for adjusting tone. The painter was a da vinci. 1 of 3 painters I would trust. Choice was easy way back then enamel or lacquer, black was black.
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08-29-2021, 12:55 PM | #24 | |
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08-29-2021, 03:45 PM | #25 |
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I had a professional apply a black clear coat finish on my '47 convertible years ago. It still looks like it was done yesterday.
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08-29-2021, 04:20 PM | #26 |
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We just used a flattening agent sold by the distributor that sold the PPG paint. What they recommended. I don't remember the exact amount we mixed to knock it down, not much. It was still very glossy, maybe just over a semi-gloss. A club buddy mixed and shot it (painter) and I was the sanding grunt and watched how he did it. Started with blasted metal on most then etched. Sanded. Then urethane sealer followed by a high build primer (no bondo). Sanded, sprayed, and sanded. Then single stage ppg. Wet sanded. Last edited by Tinker; 08-29-2021 at 10:55 PM. |
08-29-2021, 06:02 PM | #27 |
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I used PPG Concept years ago so I don't know if they still make it. I used it over DP primer and it is or was single stage . The reason I used it was I was tired of using so called blacks that looked more like charcoal gray in the sunlight. They advertised the black concept as the true blackest color you will find and supposedly it was like the same used on Mercedes or some high end car. Yes it was not cheap but another thing for an amateur like me is really easy to use once I got the right reducer for the right temperature.
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08-29-2021, 10:02 PM | #28 | |
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I did a lot of looking at black cars and looking up paint before I decided what paint we would choose to spray. Definitely a difference in color in my opinion. Think it was $900 a gallon then. But I don't regret it. |
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08-30-2021, 11:37 AM | #29 |
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Just a thought Frank....You might go to an automotive paint store,pick out some color chips and ask the guys if they would be kind enough to look at the formulas.The formulas would have a list of the toners that make the colors.
Or, go to some new car dealerships and check out the black colors on new cars. The build sheets will state the names or numbers of the colors. |
09-01-2021, 06:03 PM | #30 |
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Thank's Willit Stop. I hadn't thought of the dealership idea. By the way, Will it stop?, is what I think every time I take my 36 out with stock mechanical brakes.
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09-01-2021, 06:24 PM | #31 |
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You're welcome Frank.
Yep. That's how I came up with the screen name.That first stop sign was an "Oh s**t" moment. Since then, I've installed brake floaters.Huge difference. Have fun with your project. |
09-02-2021, 11:10 PM | #32 |
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Isn’t there a paint spec or formula in PPG or any other brand for Frank’s 37 Ford coupe? I thought stock colors had formulas for them even if the color is black. Wasn’t it called a specific name like “Raven Black” or something?
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