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Old 10-23-2012, 12:45 AM   #81
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I greatly admire your work Flop! If you're ever looking for an apprentice, I'll be at your shop the next day!
Me too.

So i tried shrinking with the only source of heat i had, a MIG welder. It left hard spots that make hammering awkward. i like your methods better.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:22 AM   #82
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Was great to see the car (and Flop's Shop) in person! Great set-up -- the shop looks like it's straight out of the 40s/50s.

The car is looking pretty good too -- has come a long way.

Question: There were 4 holes in that panel above the rumble decklid that Tom did an excellent job bringing back from the dead. The holes were evenly spaced in a rectangular pattern and had been filled-in, presumably during the original hot rod mods in the 50's. If the attached picture works, you can see what I mean on a finished Roadster -- anyone know what those are for? Maybe bumpers/support for the rear window when the top is down?

Anyone know whether all 1930 Roadsters had them? ...or just Deluxe? or they were an option? I have seen photos of 1930 Roadsters with and without these. I'm trying to decide whether Flop should re-drill them on my car (the one he's working on in this thread) or leave them welded closed.

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Those rubber bumpers support the rear window glass when the top is down.
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Old 10-23-2012, 02:22 PM   #84
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Those rubber bumpers support the rear window glass when the top is down.
Great - thanks

Did every Roadster come with them?
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:14 PM   #85
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cant shrink with the mig welder person .


interesting stuff Jeff! I will leave the holes in the other roadster until we figure out what we are going to do with yours!




half way through welding the quarter in






and from the back




finished up the panel then burned some lead out of the bead




getting back into shape one panel at a time!!
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Old 10-24-2012, 08:07 AM   #86
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Excellent repair, Tom. I'm still surprised we both missed the original repair at first. Now, it's like the damage never even happened.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:36 PM   #87
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thats the way I like to do it Jeff!

put the triangle braces in this morning



green lines are stress cracks .

i welded them after the braces were in just incase the weld penetration prevented the pieces from sitting together nicely



a little tig work



i cannot get over the fit of this panel !



uncovering some old work



some old lead i dug out






does anyone have the measurement for the holes that go in the belt line behind the door?
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:47 PM   #88
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I love to see the continued progress! Excellent work, as always.

"does anyone have the measurement for the holes that go in the belt line behind the door? " -- I take it they aren't in that other Roadster anymore for some reason?
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Old 11-01-2012, 07:03 AM   #89
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thanks Jeff

old holes were filled in that car a long time ago as well


well on Jeffs car i got to work on the beltline

cut out the big hunk of brass



and filled in the hole with some sheetmetal



the top was pretty rough where they shaved the reveal where the tab comes through for the top



so i made up a new piece



after some welding and filing i am pretty pleased with it



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Looks great -- can't wait to see how you replicate the reveal / opening for the top tab.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:55 PM   #91
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well this is how i made the reveal for the top tab

really nothing fancy and reallly close to looking stock



cut it put it in the vice to straighten it out and tacked it together



after it was tigged in



alot of work in this little area to get it back to looking right



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Very cool -- your idea or you steal that from someone?
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:47 AM   #93
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Ive never seen this area repaired before Jeff , and I didnt feel like making a hammerform to press the shape into some sheetmetal. So with the help of 1/8th inch steel rod we now have something that looks like it should have been there all along !
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Excellent,,,,,,,,Great work Flop.
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Hey Flop thanks for sharing progress.. when you make your lower patch panels do you use a custom made die or one that came with a standard bead roller?

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Old 11-07-2012, 07:09 AM   #96
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thanks zzlegend

roadking no problem ! its a modified step die from harbor freight



wheel wells




old rot



a little shrinker work has a new panel made up in no time



gonna finish the welding up today and put the break on the bottom !

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wheel well finished up !!!


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Old 11-08-2012, 06:19 PM   #98
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Nice! Is that Frame as solid and rust free as it looks? I am referring to the photo in post 19 on the first page of this build.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:19 AM   #99
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yeah its a damn nice frame . sqaure within 3/16ths of an inch .no pitting .


well messed with the floor a bit since i ran out of argon sunday morning




also put rivets in where they are supposed to be on the repop panel to give it a little more in the looks dept







and the passenger side just about finished up

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:52 PM   #100
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I wanted to thank you for taking the time to post these pictures and text. It is good to see nice work and the techniques you have employed as you proceed. You have used some very clever solutions and I'm sure most people who follow this thread will be making notes for future reference. I sure am.
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