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Old 06-20-2010, 12:53 PM   #1
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Default F150 tranny with overdrive

Tell me more about the F150 tranny with overdrive. What year, how much is involved to install, what has to be done to it, who does the preperation, and whatever else one should know if they are interested in installing it. Thanks Ray
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Your gonna have to make an adapter plate, cut part of the cross member, shorten the drive shaft, cut new hole in floorboard for shifter, and im sure im forgetting one or two other little things. But its well worth all the work. With a good engine there is no reason why you couldnt run at 60-65 mph.
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And gary bernard from ft.worth makes an excelent conversion kit. There is atleast 50 of his transmitions running around Dallas & Ft. worth and havent heard a complaint yet
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Dave Delmue makes a drop in kit. No cutting of crossmember,or cutting of brake cross shaft. He uses an AA bellhousing which is shorter. He supplies every part ready to bolt in. I have one and really like it. Available in several overdrive ratios. I have a 23%.

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I installed one in my 30 Town Sedan and like it very much. In spite of what you hear, if a AA Bell Housing is used, no cuts are required on the crossmember. No modification of the brakes. The rear radius rods, drive shaft and torque tube must be shortened approximately 1 1/2 inches. considerable machine work and fabrication is required. If a kit with every thing requied is available it would make the job a lot easier.
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have one of daves conversions in a 36 phaeton, very pleased with it.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:29 PM   #8
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To answer your question, the transmission you are looking for is out of an 84-87 Ford F150 2WD pickup with an inline 6 or small V8. It has a floor mounted shifter and the shift knob will have "OD" where the normal "4" would be in a normal "H" pattern 4 speed. Secondly, look at the left side of the transmission case. There should be a casting number "260XXXX". Third, on the right side of the transmission there should be a riveted metal tag with the first three letters "RTS" followed by two letters which will identify the OD ratio. See my chart below for the decoding.............Go to post #245 for missing photos

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Old 06-21-2010, 02:22 PM   #9
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after reading the info and looking at the F150 trans installed I don't know which way I want to go. T5 or the ford tranny. Has anyone driven both? I mean driven one with the T5 and then one with the Ford. It sounds like the same amount of money. I know the guys on the HAMB favor the T5 and several Model A Tourers (is that a word?) prefer the Ford. Does the T5 have more of a high performance car feel vs. the Ford?
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Logan, do you have Gary Bernard's contact info?
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I installed one in my 30 Town Sedan and like it very much. In spite of what you hear, if a AA Bell Housing is used, no cuts are required on the crossmember. No modification of the brakes. The rear radius rods, drive shaft and torque tube must be shortened approximately 1 1/2 inches. considerable machine work and fabrication is required. If a kit with every thing requied is available it would make the job a lot easier.
Mag, What clutch/flywheel did you use?
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Mag, What clutch/flywheel did you use?
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AA Bell housing, AA Throw-out Arm, AA Throw-out Collar, Model A Throw-out Bearing, Model A Flywheel, Model A Pilot Bearing, Model A Clutch Assembly, 49 Ford Clutch Plate, Model A U-joint,, Model A Gear Shift Lever.
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AA Bell housing, AA Throw-out Arm, AA Throw-out Collar, Model A Throw-out Bearing, Model A Flywheel, Model A Pilot Bearing, Model A Clutch Assembly, 49 Ford Clutch Plate, Model A U-joint,, Model A Gear Shift Lever.
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There are three fellows that make a bolt-in kit for the F150 OD conversion, Ken Parker, Dave Delmue and Gary Bernard. All three make a quality kit which comes with all parts needed for a bolt-in installation. Kits vary in price depending on the source, but generally the price is around $2800.00 plus or minus. Both Ken and Dave make kits using the "AA" bell housing. This keeps the new transmission in front of the brake cross-shaft and the mid-frame crossmember so there are no modifications to the cross-shaft and the crossmember only needs a very slight notch for clearance. Gary Bernard's kit uses the standard Model A bell housing which places the new transmission further back and requires a highly modified brake cross-shaft and the frame cross member has to be notched quiet a bit. All three kits require the driveshaft, torque tube and radius rods to be shorten. Ken Parker is in Van, TX, Dave Delmue is in San Jose, CA and Gary Bernard is in Ft. Worth, TX. If you would like any of their contact information, please email me............
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after reading the info and looking at the F150 trans installed I don't know which way I want to go. T5 or the ford tranny. Has anyone driven both? I mean driven one with the T5 and then one with the Ford. It sounds like the same amount of money. I know the guys on the HAMB favor the T5 and several Model A Tourers (is that a word?) prefer the Ford. Does the T5 have more of a high performance car feel vs. the Ford?
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I and several friends have the F150 and all love it. Another friend has the T5 and loves it. The major downside to the T5 I have heard is that it requires a brake modification; the brake mod that comes with the kit is reported to be woefully inadequate, such that you really must convert to hydraulics. If you haven't already done that and don't want to, my understanding is that the F150 is the way to go.

The other major T5 concern is the absence of the torque tube, which some feel plays a crucial structural role. On the other hand, T5'ers are happy.

My only regret about my F150 is that 1st and 2nd gear are the same as Model A stock; I wish they were higher. But, if I were seriously interested in optimizing gear ratios, I would have gotten a Mitchell gear splitter OD and had 6 gear ratios to play with--too many levers for my taste.

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I and several friends have the F150 and all love it. Another friend has the T5 and loves it. The major downside to the T5 I have heard is that it requires a brake modification; the brake mod that comes with the kit is reported to be woefully inadequate, such that you really must convert to hydraulics. If you haven't already done that and don't want to, my understanding is that the F150 is the way to go.

The other major T5 concern is the absence of the torque tube, which some feel plays a crucial structural role. On the other hand, T5'ers are happy.

My only regret about my F150 is that 1st and 2nd gear are the same as Model A stock; I wish they were higher. But, if I were seriously interested in optimizing gear ratios, I would have gotten a Mitchell gear splitter OD and had 6 gear ratios to play with--too many levers for my taste.

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Thanks Steve. Sounds like then the T5 offers a little more as far as gear ratios are concerned.
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Old 06-21-2010, 05:52 PM   #18
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there are two first gear ratios for F150's.One is higher than stock model A. I have heard that first gear in a T-5 is too low for normal use,but I haven't driven one.Lots of variables.
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Thanks to all that took the time to answer my new thread on the F150 transmission. This Forum sure is full of QUALITY information for the asking. I have a lot of information to sift through before making a decision on which way to go. Thanks to all that gave me a piece of your thoughts.
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there are two first gear ratios for F150's.One is higher than stock model A. I have heard that first gear in a T-5 is too low for normal use,but I haven't driven one.Lots of variables.
AL's table was news to me. Great info, first time I've seen it in any of the many many F150 threads we've had over the years. However, it looks like the higher 1st/2nd ratios also give 38% OD--yikes! I've got a Brumfield head, but still, that seems pretty steep for a town sedan.

My recollection is that there are MANY gear sets available for the T5, but, then, consider the source. The low low would be dandy for parades, if that's your thing. Smart to keep researching.

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Nice input on the differences between the T-5 and the F150. Too many other modifications to perform just to gain OD. Like you said, if you remove the torque tube, you have to add something to control the acceleration and braking torque of the rear axle.
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All F150 installs require the torque tube, driveshaft and radius rods to be shorten. In all the three kits mentioned above, those items are included with the kit.
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Nice input on the differences between the T-5 and the F150. Too many other modifications to perform just to gain OD. Like you said, if you remove the torque tube, you have to add something to control the acceleration and braking torque of the rear axle.
From all I have read here, the Mitchell Overdrive sounds like an easer way to go.
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I started gathering parts for the 150 transmission install a while back. I now have a couple of RTS boxs, had a friend with a good machine shop shorten the mainshaft. I shortened the drive shaft and torque tube, today ordered a pair of rear radius rods to get ready to shorten. I also have the rear adapter plate made and a AA bell housing mounted to the front of one of the boxes. Only thing I don't have done is to concoct a throw out bearing.
I'm using a lightened flywheel and a 86 t-bird clutch assy. Anyone know what to do for the T.O. bearing? I understand somehow you mate the rear part of a model A hub to the front of a t-bird T.O. brg. I'd love to see a pic or drawing of this mod.
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Get in touch with Jim Parker Toronto on here -- he has completed this exact install.
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Just an FYI for you guys. Al is correct on the Ford F-150's, but Ford also installed a lot of them in the same year vans: E-150, I think is the corect term.
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I have the Ford unit. It's great! I have also driven the S10 T5. I prefer the Ford as it does not require cutting of brake cross shaft & maintains the torque tube. Also the T5 has too low of a 1st gear and only provides over drive in the high teens vs. the Ford's 23 or 28 percnet.
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I put the F150 in my new car, with lots of help here, especially Al in NY, and LOVE IT. speeds of 60-65 all day long at 2150 RPM. Gave me 27 Miles per Gallon, Canadian, on a recent 355 mile trip. Sinkromesh (sp) gears all around, and it shifts nice........
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Dave Delmue makes a drop in kit. No cutting of crossmember,or cutting of brake cross shaft. He uses an AA bellhousing which is shorter. He supplies every part ready to bolt in. I have one and really like it. Available in several overdrive ratios. I have a 23%.

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I'm sure Dave makes a good kit, I just wish he'd ship me the one I paid for 9 months ago.
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[ 06-24-2010, 04:01 PM ] This is the date on ModelAOnly's last post. Did I not read somewhere that you got your money back CarlG???
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[ 06-24-2010, 04:01 PM ] This is the date on ModelAOnly's last post. Did I not read somewhere that you got your money back CarlG???
No tranny, no money, and now his web site is down. It's not looking good! It's going to take me quite a while to recover (financially and emotionally) from this fiasco.

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All i can say, is if i was given an option of having a model a with an overdrive, verses one without, I would hands down choose the one with the overdrive. They are so much nicer to drive at high speeds, and really just make a whole world of difference in an A. The 4 speed by gary Bernard is the best you can buy. I've never heard of anyone having a problem, and i know he's sold some to people before with the AA housings. You just have to ask if he has any. The 4 speeds are nice because now anyone can drive the car without grinding the gears.
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[ 06-24-2010, 04:01 PM ] This is the date on ModelAOnly's last post...
Actually, he had 13 posts in March of 2011 -- right before he went missing.
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All i can say, is if i was given an option of having a model a with an overdrive, verses one without, I would hands down choose the one with the overdrive. They are so much nicer to drive at high speeds, and really just make a whole world of difference in an A. The 4 speed by gary Bernard is the best you can buy. I've never heard of anyone having a problem, and i know he's sold some to people before with the AA housings. You just have to ask if he has any. The 4 speeds are nice because now anyone can drive the car without grinding the gears.
This is the ONE mod I had decided I had to have -- way before I bought my truck. I will get there, I will just have to wait a while longer than I planned on.
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So what is the diffrence between a standard A and the AA bellhousing? Could one be modified? Could you have one made? Anyone explored these options?
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The AA B/H is shorter so the trans is further forward for better stick position ,but it has no pedal mount so this has to be fabricated ,is the clutch fork different to A type ?,i was thinking of doing a 3 speed mustang type trans ,no O/D ,either trans is hard to get in Australia ,Macs in New Zealand make the correct B/H for the conv.with pedal mount and you dont shorten the input shaft,,
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OK how much shorter is the bell housing on the AA as compaired to the A? Useing the AA housing would move the trans forward by how much? What is the A bellhousing made from is it Cast iron? Could a new one be made from steel? I am asking because I dont know and am intrested in this conversion. If you have the AA bell housing do you have to shorten the input shaft on the transmission? If so how much do you have to respline the input and remachine the tip for the pilot bushing?
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I have the short AA bell housing, although it's not yet installed, it looks like it will only require the pilot be shortened about a half inch.. This transmission has about i 3/16 inch pilot past the spline so I don't think any re-spline is needed. May need to just shorten the spline a little. When I get to that point I'll mount the trans. behind the engine without the clutch assy. to check this.
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I have the short AA bell housing, although it's not yet installed, it looks like it will only require the pilot be shortened about a half inch.. This transmission has about i 3/16 inch pilot past the spline so I don't think any re-spline is needed. May need to just shorten the spline a little. When I get to that point I'll mount the trans. behind the engine without the clutch assy. to check this.
How much diffrence in the two bell housings?
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Ken Parker told me the whole process in detail. Wow, lots of machine work and very exacting. After I heard the process I sold the unaltered transmission I'd bought to modify. $3,000 is a bargain.

I eventually installed a Mitchell overdrive. I got a deal from a forum member where all the assembly had been done with the rear end and radius rods included. I dropped it right in. I love it.
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Not to throw a wrench in the works, but I just wanted to bring up another overdrive option.

With the adaptor from Klings, you can put a 36-39 transmission behind your A that has synchromesh for around $600-800. No more grinding gears. Then behind that put a Volvo overdrive spliced into the torque tube for $1500. This combination is almost $1000 cheaper and does not require cutting the frame.

With the Ford OD, you are limited to 4 gears. With a non overdrive transmission and an overdrive in the torque tube, you actually have 6 gears since you can shift 1st, 1st with overdrive, 2nd, 2nd with overdrive, 3rd and 3rd with overdrive. When climbing a hill last week following a convoy of Model As driving 25 miles an hour, I was really happy to have 2nd with overdrive. It was less than 3rd gear, but stronger than 2nd. The car didn't lug but also stayed at low RPM. Just another thought.
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I don't have a car bell housing handy to measure but the AA truck housing is 5 3/8 inch overall length.
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The A Car B/H looks to be 7 and 5 eights,,,,the AA is configured similar to late Ford toploaders with about 5 eights of an inch needed to be trimmed from input shaft when using 3 or 4 speed toploaders or the F150 trans the AA has a nicer mounting surface for the trans.i was keen to use the O/D F150 but they are hard to find in Australia so am going to use a 3 speed toploader hope to find one rejected from an imported mustang just to smooth the operaration ,i have a 3 speed jeep shift and a chunky output shaft to respline just need a trans.what is annoying is 3 speeds are advertised from $40 up in the US but thats not here ,,,,
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... When climbing a hill last week following a convoy of Model As driving 25 miles an hour, I was really happy to have 2nd with overdrive. It was less than 3rd gear, but stronger than 2nd. The car didn't lug but also stayed at low RPM. Just another thought.
I agree with Jason. I like my 150 trans but would like it even more if 2nd gear were higher. I really could have used it in the hills of WV when we went to the Williamsburg meet. It wouldn't hurt if 1st were higher too, but 2nd is really needed. With my 150, 1st and 2nd are the same as stock A. I think there are other gear options available.

The Mitchell OD gives you lots of options but then you've got two shifter levers to deal with.

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There are several versions of the T5 and each has different ratios. You have choices of 2.95, 3.35, 3.5, 3.97 and 4.03 as first gear ratios. Some are easier to find than others, but still all exist.
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The T-5 trans can be installed in an A and still use the original closed drive line. There is a kit available thru Steve Serr at Miller High Speed Heads, that provides a brand new bell housing and special rear adapter to convert a 4whl. drive version of the T-5 to closed drive line. Yes it does require the crossmember to be notched for the shift tower. I can not comment on interference with the brake cross shaft, as I moved the member one set of holes to the rear. My project truck came with hyd. brakes started and without any mech. brakes, I just stayed with the hyd. system. I think that you should contact Steve Serr to get answers to your questions.

My installation is not what most individuals would probably do as I am in a frame off situation and require a lower O/D ratio and because of the extra weight of my panel delivery. I need for full syncro., lack of extra levers, easier to use clutch (V-8) for my wife's limitations has resulted in this setup. By the way there are 265 models of the T-5, with O/D's from 18% to 67%. The early models refered to as "non-world class" are just fine for Model A's, gear ratios can be swapped around but I am not qualified to advise about that option.
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While on the subject of ratios, there are three overdrive ratios for the Ford transmission, 26.7%, 37.9% and 41.1%. I have a 26 and a 41, I think the 41 would be too high, so I'm probable going with the 26. Any opinions?
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We are working towards installation of a T-5 into the sedan. There is another kit being worked on and as soon as they have things perfected we agreed to install one for the trip to Michigan next year. This kit is suppose to install with out cutting the frame. We will post something as soon as we get our transmission and kit.
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That is if you ever get it from him. Many "Barners" are still waiting for for him to show up. He gets the money from you and disappears. Luckly I paid by PayPal and got my money back. BE CAREFUL OF HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That is if you ever get it from him. Many "Barners" are still waiting for for him to show up. He gets the money from you and disappears. Luckly I paid by PayPal and got my money back. BE CAREFUL OF HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You might indicate who "him" is.
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While on the subject of ratios, there are three overdrive ratios for the Ford transmission, 26.7%, 37.9% and 41.1%. I have a 26 and a 41, I think the 41 would be too high, so I'm probable going with the 26. Any opinions?
I'm sure glad I don't have the 41 in mine. It might be ok in a real light model, or coupled with a 4.11 rear end, but too steep for a town sedan even in the flat lands, IMHO.

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Jeeze, if we are talking $3k now, I can install a new Mitchell synchro-ed transmission with a faster 2nd gear ratio, and a 3.27 gear ratio in a fine - point car and do everything you guys are doing and still look 110% stock.
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Modelaonly.. Your website appears to be down..
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Phone is disconnected also.
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While on the subject of ratios, there are three overdrive ratios for the Ford transmission, 26.7%, 37.9% and 41.1%. I have a 26 and a 41, I think the 41 would be too high, so I'm probable going with the 26. Any opinions?
The 27% is the one I have in a Fordor. It works fine! 63mph, or 100 kilometers at 2150 rpm.
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The 26 it is.
By the way, if anyone needs a V8 clutch, it's exactly the same as the one used in an older Ford tractor (8N, 9N, 600, and 800) The part numbers are 91A7563 pressure plate, 8N 7550 clutch plate, C5NN7600 pilot bearing and C0NN7580A T.O. bearing. These parts are readily available from any Ford (New Holland) tractor dealer. I have one in my 29 coupe now and it works great.
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Well, not quite the same! V8 pressure plates have the centrifugal weights on the fingers to add clamping force as the RPM's go up. You can notice this in a V8 car or pickup by revving the engine with the clutch pedal held down. As the RPM goes up you can feel the clutch pedal push back harder. Tractors had no need for these wieghts as they were half the power of a V8 and only ran at 1600-1800 or so RPM.
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Hi there,
Mac's Speed Shop in New Zealand makes a alloy bell housing for this gearbox and I believe they are available in the States?
We have done away with the torque tube and use an open prop shaft, but then you have to deal with the radius rods and possibly fit a torque arm to resist the diff's attempt to rotate
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Macs in New Zealand makes an excellent B/H and is the correct dimension so you dont cut your input shaft ,Graeme is very helpfull when you ring and has the F150 trans on open drive set up in his Riley OHV powered pick up ,check his website WWWmacspeed.com
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Correction,,, actually the 91A7563 has the weights, the 8N or 9N 7563 do not. The 91A7563 is listed as a heavy duty replacement for these tractors.
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Shifter on the rts is closest to original. The t5 comes up through the floor quite a way farther aft. Rich
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How do you measure RPM while in motion, do you have a dash mounted tach. or some other way? If so what drives the tach.
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Yes, I have a steering column mounted 0 - 4000 Sun Tach. It seems to be accurate. Electric, off the coil.
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I just wanted to thank Al in NY for the chart on the F150 transmission.
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I have an '86 F-150 OD aluminum case tranny for sale. I had it behind a flathead and went to a t-5. PM me if interested.
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trctrdr. i am one of the kit builders Al in NY mentioned. Name is Ken Parker. If you will call me or email me I can give you the info you need to "fix" the input shaft and the throwout hub. kenparker0703@aol.com or call 903-963-1650.
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You want the T170FT CODE RTS. ...You will not disappointed! No modifications required to the cross member or brakes!!!

The best choice by far!!!
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Another source for a Ford F-150 OD transmission is Sheridan's Repair in Nunica, Michigan. Call Tim Sheridan at 616-836-6477. His is a "drop in"
tansmission, not a kit, that does not require any cutting of the center cross member. Tim has made and sold his conversion for a number of years. I purchased and installed one earlier this year and am quite pleased with it. Tim explained to me that there are 3 different OD ratios that Ford offered with these transmissions and I strongly recommend that if you purchase one get the OD gear ratio that best suits your engine and your normal driving conditions. If you live in hilly or mountain region you would not want the highest OD gear ratio available as it could result in lugging your engine too much. Sheridan transmission conversions use the standard Model A bell housing.
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Could someone explain how to determine the different OD ratios by looking at the metal tag on the right side of the tranny?
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Could someone explain how to determine the different OD ratios by looking at the metal tag on the right side of the tranny?
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Go back to the chart from Al in NY...... Post # 8. That's my transmission RTS BV. Find that on the chart, and then go across and look at the numbers.

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MurphyJ, it's not possible to install an F150 transmission in a Model A using the standard Model A bell housing and NOT modify the crossmember and brake cross shaft. I think you mean that Tim sells his kits using the Model AA bell housing, which then make sense.
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Thanks Al, but recently did install one of Sheridan's F150 tansmissions in my 1930 Model a pickup without having to us a AA bell housing or modify the crossmenber. Granted it is a tight fit between the rear of the tansmission and the crossmember but no mods to the crossmeber were needed. I did have to shorten the drive shaft, torque tube and radius rods and a slight alteration of the brake crossover shaft, and that was all.
I have a couple of photos that I can share if you or anyone would like to see.
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MurphyJ, Yes, please post. Would like to see how you did your install.
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Thanks Al, but recently did install one of Sheridan's F150 tansmissions in my 1930 Model a pickup without having to us a AA bell housing or modify the crossmenber. Granted it is a tight fit between the rear of the tansmission and the crossmember but no mods to the crossmeber were needed. I did have to shorten the drive shaft, torque tube and radius rods and a slight alteration of the brake crossover shaft, and that was all.
I have a couple of photos that I can share if you or anyone would like to see.
I too would like to see pictures. If the drive shaft was shortened, it means some big stuff was moved back--I wonder how. There wouldn't have been much room for the U-joint in my car.

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Could someone explain how to determine the different OD ratios by looking at the metal tag on the right side of the tranny?
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I'm not sure, but I think this is the table for the F-150 trans we're dealing with:

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Below are some photos of the Sheridan F-150 OD transmission I recently installed. Keep in mind that I purchased only the tansmission from Tim Sheridan, not a kit. I specifically did not want to cut or modify the cross member. Also, if I or a future buyer wants to reverse the OD transmission and return to the original transmission set up, it is possible. Upon receipt of the transmission, I had to shorten the torque tube, drive shaft and radius rods, all approx 4 1/2 inches, working with a local one man machine shop. All the labor of the installation I did with the help of another shade tree mechanic. The first photo shows the transmission installed between the cross member and the "A" bell housing. Photo 2 shows the slight interference between a bottom bolt and the brake cross over shaft. Photo 3 shows how that interference was eliminated by altering the brake cross over shaft.
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Yes, that would be the correct table to look at when you are going by the tag. My tag said RTS BV, as posted in reply #8 of this thread. So then it would be in the first group "302 V8, Trans ID RTS-" and then follow down to the "BV". This would in no way mean that someone has not changed the gears inside, but could be used as an indicator.
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My tranny does not have the tag on it, but I have been told (by the builder) that the gear ratios that are in there are: 1-3.25, 2-1.92, 3-1.00, 4-0.78, R-3.25. Don't really know if that is what this particular tranny had in it originally or not, but that's what's in it now. Per the builder, this is what is optimum for use in a Model A. This is also the same as what Jim Parker has in his.

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MurphyJ, Am I missing something? Your pictures do not show up. I too are interested in how you installed yours. Ken
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Picture of the F150 Od tranny installed in my open/test chassi. Please pardon the cloudy pix. One can see the small notch cut into the lip of the center cross member. Ken
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Sorry Ken, was worried about photos going through. Will see where I errored and try again.
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,,does any one have one of these trans.that they can measure the main case for me ,thanks,,are they 9and 3 quarter inches?
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Back today with photos of the Sheridan Ford OD transmission installed in my 30 pickup.
Many thanks to Ken Parker's assistance.
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The length of the case is 10 1/8"
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Boy, with all the attention this Tremac RTS transmission receives from Model A people, I am sure that other people have been using them too. My thoughts are, "How many did Ford have made?, and "How many are left out there to be found?" Any ideas???
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Now if someone would come up with a 4WD conversion ??????
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Jim Parker Toronto,
Are you looking for a RTS transmission ? I might be able to help you out.
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Anyone have a photo of the throw-out return spring arrangement? The instructions I have say to hook it over the lower opening of the inspection hole. Seems that would be pulling it up as much as back. Anyone come up with a better arrangement?
Oh and I do have an extra RTS transmission, unfortunitly it's 41% O.D. It's already apart so would be easy to ship.
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I and several friends have the F150 and all love it. Another friend has the T5 and loves it. The major downside to the T5 I have heard is that it requires a brake modification; the brake mod that comes with the kit is reported to be woefully inadequate, such that you really must convert to hydraulics. If you haven't already done that and don't want to, my understanding is that the F150 is the way to go.

The other major T5 concern is the absence of the torque tube, which some feel plays a crucial structural role. On the other hand, T5'ers are happy.

My only regret about my F150 is that 1st and 2nd gear are the same as Model A stock; I wish they were higher. But, if I were seriously interested in optimizing gear ratios, I would have gotten a Mitchell gear splitter OD and had 6 gear ratios to play with--too many levers for my taste.

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I have an '86 F-150 OD aluminum case tranny for sale. I had it behind a flathead and went to a t-5. PM me if interested.
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does it have Id number on the side where rts is. and what are you asking for it.
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I was wondering if anyone has found a source for floor mats without the hales pre-punched. I have e-mailed Snyders to see if they could special order one for me.
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I was wondering if anyone has found a source for floor mats without the hales pre-punched. I have e-mailed Snyders to see if they could special order one for me.
I haven't checked on floor mats for years, but I think Mac's used to sell them with the hole in a specific location, so you needed to specify where your E-brake was located.
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All F150 installs require the torque tube, driveshaft and radius rods to be shorten. In all the three kits mentioned above, those items are included with the kit.

Just to claify, are you saying the in the kit COMES a Modified Drive shaft, torque tube and radius rod??

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Old 03-04-2012, 07:55 PM   #97
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Yes, all of the kit makers included the modified (shortened) torque tube, driveshaft and radius rods.
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Yes, all of the kit makers included the modified (shortened) torque tube, driveshaft and radius rods.
If I understand 4th is actually the overdrive gear. So we have 3 synchro gears and an overdrive all in 1 unit. ? This would eliminate the need for the mitchell overdrive. Am I correct?
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seems like it would be easier to use a smaller tranny like out of a pinto of something. f150 seems over kill
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msmaron: Correct.
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Drove the sedan today for the first time with the 4 speed. Im in love.
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More outstanding than I thought. Thank you.
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Here is a pic of my F150 with AA bellhousing. No cutting of crossmember.

I fabricated the rear mount to isolate it from the crossmember.
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Is there a rubber pad under that black flat piece? or how did you accomplish that?
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Drove the sedan today for the first time with the 4 speed. Im in love.
Do you have any idea how much actual time this took from start to finish? Any pictures of your "transformation". I'm going to be starting mine soonly.
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My mitchell is behind a "39" transmission Great combination.. I have over 85 thousand miles on it !! I would not change a thing....
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john in illinois;379565 Here is a pic of my F150 with AA bell housing. No cutting of crossmember.

I fabricated the rear mount to isolate it from the crossmember.QUOTE

That looks like a good idea that you have done to help support the back of the transmission. Looks like you did a great job on it too.
Ken Parker of Van,TX did something similar to yours, but it supported by lip of the crossmember. He did it off the back of the transmission with two " L " pieces that are adjustable with rubber pads.
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Anyone have an experience with any of Ford's other SROD 4 speed transmissions?? These are also 4 speed OD types. They came in '80- up Ford trucks and in Mustangs ( though a slightly different SROD ).
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The Single Rail Over Drive trans shares the same internals as the f150 type but you need the shifter on top to look any good in an A ,and i dont think you can adapt a jeep type shift to it ,,
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The Ford SROD from mid '70's to mid '80's can be fitted to a Model A. I have one in my Speedster. The shift lever is mounted on the tailhousing, so it sits up to 6" further back. There are several versions and where the shifter is mounted on the tailhouse varies. I have found only two % of OD - the 37% and 41%. I dont think they have a 26%.

Not all the internals are the same. The output and input shaft and bearings are different, so it is almost impossible to get the 26% by changing internals.

Since shifter is on tailhouse, thus using the long original tailshaft, you must use an open driveline. I will try to get pictures of my Speedster shifter and driveline when the sun comes out.
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I did my own years ago, used a AA bell housing no cutting to frame or brakes. There is a lot of machining not a job for the back yard. You will like it if you buy one, plus your car still looks close to stock.
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I also did the F150 install myself four years ago and used the AA bellhousing. I never could get the hang of downshifting a Model A, that was one of my reasons for installing it. The second reason was this transmission makes driving in busy downtown traffic MUCH easier because you are not the slowest vehicle out there and you can shift quickly reguardless of the engine RPM. Third reason was the OD fourth gear. I can cruise at 55-60 MPH without the engine screaming. IMHO, a very good upgrade for a "driver" Model A.
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Hi guys have installed the f-150 trans took it on a test run I thibk it will be great I havent hooked speedometor up yet have the new housing will have to jb weld the outher end that screws on the speedometor and get a cable made at speedometor shop how have you guys done it what gear teeth do you go in the transmison with I have a couple differnt teeth thanks guys
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does anyone sell floor board patters to start with, then the hole can be adapted to where is is needed?
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I plan on using my old floorboard for a pattern and moving the hole back however far I need to. I presume that is what others have done.

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I just cover the original hole with a piece of sheet metal, and screw it to the wood. Simple and quick.
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Hi guys have installed the f-150 trans took it on a test run I thibk it will be great I havent hooked speedometor up yet have the new housing will have to jb weld the outher end that screws on the speedometor and get a cable made at speedometor shop how have you guys done it what gear teeth do you go in the transmison with I have a couple differnt teeth thanks guys
I don't understand why you would need to jb weld speedometer housing to make it work. The gear in the speedometer housing would depend on the rear end ratio and your tire size. Such as 3:78 would use a 19 tooth gear.
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Jamie the cable housing that I have is made for the f-1oo which the end that goes on the transmision is fine but the head must be cut off that goes on the back of the speedometor so you can use the nut that screws on the back of the speedometor and a longer cable will have to be facacated at a speedometor shop a bout 20 bucks so im told how is yours done thanks
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chiliman,
Take a look at Post # 6 on this subject it will show the backing plate and the torque tube is hooked up there. Speedometer cable is hooked up the same way it is on the original transmission. The only difference is the torque tube must be shortened along with the radius rods for it to work with the new F150 conversion.
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Jamie woops forgot to say I went with a open drive shaft a fellow in local club makes a nice set up so I still have the tail shaft and reqires to modify the f-100 cable thanks any way
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For anyone interested,,, Snyders has provided for me a floor mat for my 29 coupe that hasn't been trimmed, they special ordered it from the manufacturer. There are no holes cut and the outside edges haven't been trimmed.
I have my install complete, have been driving it for a couple of weeks and love it. The transmission along with a new Mel Gross steering box has made it into a different car.
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Thanks trctrdr, I have been trying to do this very thing but hadn't found a vendor (or manufacturer) that was willing to make a mat without the holes cut for the shifter tower and E-brake. I just sent a email to Snyder's asking for the same mat that you special ordered. Maybe they will make it a catalogue item.
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For anyone interested,,, Snyders has provided for me a floor mat for my 29 coupe that hasn't been trimmed, they special ordered it from the manufacturer. There are no holes cut and the outside edges haven't been trimmed.
I have my install complete, have been driving it for a couple of weeks and love it. The transmission along with a new Mel Gross steering box has made it into a different car.
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I just wanted to thank you for letting us know. We are getting ready to put a rebuilt motor and F150 transmission conversion in a 1930 Coupe asap. We need a new floor mat, so this is good to know.
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Al, that's a great looking conversion as well.
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Another source for a Ford F-150 OD transmission is Sheridan's Repair in Nunica, Michigan. Call Tim Sheridan at 616-836-6477. His is a "drop in"
tansmission, not a kit, that does not require any cutting of the center cross member. Tim has made and sold his conversion for a number of years. I purchased and installed one earlier this year and am quite pleased with it. Tim explained to me that there are 3 different OD ratios that Ford offered with these transmissions and I strongly recommend that if you purchase one get the OD gear ratio that best suits your engine and your normal driving conditions. If you live in hilly or mountain region you would not want the highest OD gear ratio available as it could result in lugging your engine too much. Sheridan transmission conversions use the standard Model A bell housing.
Tim Sheridan's number is 616-837-6477 not 616-836-6477
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Do any of these conversion kits work with an Early '28 that has the "dog-bone" split braking system installed? I have a Tudor with the single plate clutch assembly installed, however, it still retains the early " no-E brake" AR brake system.
I'm researching the idea, just to see if it works for this Tudor. Thanks, Phil
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Steve ; You need to do some serious investigation as it relates to the gear ratio`s if you go with the f-150 . As posted earlier my 31 sw with b engine and f-150 trans likes to run 55-60 . When I go on a tour with my club they run about 45 . At that speed I am continually having to shift back and forth from 4th ( od ) to 3rd ,3rd to 4th when the slow down a little or we get into some hills.I also heard that f-150 trans are becoming harder and harder to find .I do like the synchronization .
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So how about a 3 speed truck trans?? Zillions of them out there. They are very short with a short tailhousing. Anyone used one or heard of it?? Sure no OD, but a nice synchronized trans.
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Duffy what gear set do you have?
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This best gearset for a Model A conversion is out of a 302-V8 powered 83-87 2WD Ford F150. See post #8 in this thread for a decoding chart. The ratios for that transmission are 3.25, 1.92, 1.00, 0.78(26.7% OD). Very close to the stock Model A transmission in gears 1st, 2nd and 3rd.
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Thanks al im tired of beating an old horse!
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what clutch disk is used in this application part number would sure help me out all that im finding they want to sell kit with presser plate one place wants 150 just for thedisk thanks for information
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I am using one from a 1986 Ford T-bird 2.3L 4 cylinder turbo. 1 1/16" x 10 spline. Works great in mine! Got the whole setup, clutch, pressure plate, and throw out bearing, only throw the throw out away! Won't fit....
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What does it take to bolt the torque tube cups to the back of the F150 trans? Is it an adapter plate?
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Looks like this.
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Make sure you get the 23% od . not the 37 % or 41% .especially if you drive where there are hills.
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There are several versions of the T5 and each has different ratios. You have choices of 2.95, 3.35, 3.5, 3.97 and 4.03 as first gear ratios. Some are easier to find than others, but still all exist.
Actually there are way more ratios than most people realize.
You can have just about any available gear ratio in any gear of the transmission.
The easiest way is to go to a transmission shop and talk to them about ratios.
It's like ordering a custom made sports car. You need to know what type of driving you intend to do primarily. What are your driving habits. How good are you at keeping the engine at optimum rpm for the speed you are going and several other parameters.
Along with a guaranteed unit you will get all the latest upgrades including the new synchros, a double tailshaft bushing and either electronic or mechanical speedo drive.
Most people will opt for a junkyard unit, bolt it in and then bitch that it is a poor conversion though.

Here is the list of available combinations. Some can be mixed.


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Thanks BobC.... that's great.
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I thought we were talking about the F150 transmission conversion, not the T5. There is only one stock Tremec RTS ratio configuation that will work in the Model A. That's the 27.6% OD transmission. I guess if you want to spend the big bucks, you can have other gear sets made. My pockets aren't that deep, so I'll use the junk yard trans.
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So how about a 3 speed truck trans?? Zillions of them out there. They are very short with a short tailhousing. Anyone used one or heard of it?? Sure no OD, but a nice synchronized trans.
I am doing a 3 speed trans from a mustang etc,into our A with a jeep t150 shifter bolted to the top ,using the AA bellhousing and fabricated pedal mount ,its basicly the same set up as the F150 trans ,i have a steel plate made with the shoulder to mount the uni housing cup, i am yet to do the main shaft spline ,i would be happy with 3 gears with synchros no OD,will still have to shorten the torque tube and driveshaft a bit ,
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Will a 4 spd out of a V6 1989 ford ranger work .
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Given the right amount of time and money, anything will work. We just try to do things that someone else has done before and done all the engineering. It makes it a lot easier!
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I think all manual trans were 5 speeds by '89. Those transmissions have an integral bellhousing. That is not the trans you want.
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Given the right amount of time and money, anything will work. We just try to do things that someone else has done before and done all the engineering. It makes it a lot easier!
I would have never accomplished this if I had to do the engineering and fab work myself. But now that I have it installed, I couldn't be more pleased with the end result.
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Macs Speed shop here in New Zealand makes an alloy bell housing to take the F150 box and this also has the clutch shaft for conventional mounting of the pedals.I believe this is marketed in the States but I'm not sure who by?
Also it should be noted that the spline on the F150 box is shorter than the model A and a special offset clutch plate is require to engage the spline.
I will be running mine with an open prop shaft conversion, but with a hotted up motor and serious driving I believe the diff attenpts to rotate and an arm off the diff is required to counteract this?
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Wensum, I believe if you use the Mac's Speed Shop bellhousing, you don't have to shorten the F150 input shaft by 5/8" like you have to with the "AA" bellhousing. And, like you said, there's a pedal shaft on the Mac's unit, but not on the "AA" bellhousing.
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:28 PM   #147
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I installed one of the popular kits for a customer once and have talked to at least 20 people that have the transmission in discussion and EVERY one of them said after driving it that they were not completely satisfied with the ratios. I noticed quite a few on this thread said the same thing.
I have always wondered, why do something you, in most cases, are not going to be satisfied with.
I bought an A several years ago just to resell and it had one in it. I could not sell it as it was because no one liked the transmission. I had to put a 5 speed in it to sell it.
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The RTS transmission in my PU has the same gears as a stock Model A (gears 1 thru 3) with the added 4th gear 26% OD. I am very satisfied with this arrangement. See Al in NY post #130 above. Anything higher than 26% would be unsatisfactory and for sure you wouldn't like it. Gotta do your homework if you are going to spend that kind of time and money on this.
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I have a friend with a 30 fordor , he had a s10 put in it by a guy who butchered his car. Had to put in a open driveshaft and made a mess of that too. The center crossmember was cut so bad it's a weak spot on the car. I had to work for weeks to straighten out what I could. The owner likes the tranny but I think it wrecked the car. I bought a kit to put an 85 f-150 4 speed o/d tranny in my 29 tudor and it's great. I had to notch the center crosmember - but very little. The kit came with shortened driveshaft and radius rods and used an AA bellhousing so no problems with the petals at all. I have driven both cars and like mine much better - it's my baby! His car is heavier and has more selection of gears in the hills. I also have a 28 closed pick-up I put a set of 3;54 gears in the rear and a Mitchell overdrive(with stock trans) DON'T DO
THAT! I have a problem because it's too high geared. Going to have to put the 3:78 gears back in soon. Check it out as much as you can before you spend your $. Good Luck Gary
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Aint this forum great! In one post it was stated that the F150 ratios are not right, in the next the owner was very happy! Boy, talk about confusion. Seems to me (I'm guessing of course) that a full bodied A is better with the T5, but a lighter car like a fenderless roadster will be OK with the F150. But what do I know? I'm just trying to arm myself with as much info as possible for when I do a swap later in the year.
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I love my 26% F150. While it is the same ratio as the A for 1, 2, and 3, the syncros more than make up for any shortfalls. 4th gear is a dream come true! It's installed in a 30 Fordor, so I guess its one of the heavier cars. I have the 3:54 gears and do not find them a problem. I do have a B engine, so power is not a problem........
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I drove a friends Sport Coupe in Florida with the 3:1 first gear and a 37% OD. The car had the smaller diameter 16" tires and a hopped up engine. It ran great on the road. I ordered the same ratio trans for my Sport Coupe again with a reworked engine and 16" wheels. Probably put it in when the driving season stops. I got mine from Sheridan transmissions (616-837-6477). It uses the stock bellhousing, and a shortened drive shaft. He cuts the top bolt off of the universal bell and it just clears the cross member. Just shims the brake cross shaft down about 1/4". I will post some pictures when I finally make the switch. Using the 16" tires with a 3.78 rear is almost the same as the stock tires with a 4.11 rear.
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Six montha ago I purchased a late 31 sw ,B touring engine, LFW ,v8 clutch ,f 150 OD and 16 in wheels.Originally I felt like the O D ratio was to ( still trying to find out what it is as there is no tag on the transmission ) high but mine is suppose to be a Gary Benard conversion and as I understand it he only sells low ration ( 26 % ) conversions . Now that I have the engine properly tuned you can run down the hwy at 55mph with AC on ,no sweat , and if you don`t watch it you will be up to 60 mph and not realize it . Great combination .
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what ratios do you guys have? Checking the tag I found out the one in my four door is the 37% I
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I have a nother one that is going in my rodester pickup and it looks like it is the 41% what ring and pinion should I use? what are you guys running thanks
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I have no tag on my transmission . So I am trying to find out . Based on who supposedly furnished the trans it should be the low ratio but I have no way to verify that.
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ive done over 140 conversions in 20 + years use the 37 or 26 % o.d. you wont like the 41%.
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By checking the tag on the one I drove in Florida and on mine and actually counting the ratios with the trans out on mine, they are both the 3.00 1st, 1.77 2nd, 1.00 3rd and .725 4th. this is the 37% trans. With the stock trans and the new engine I can easily start in second or go around corners without shifting. A lot better for the car and more fun to downshift though!
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So has any one run the 41% with a 4-11 rear end? what are the results? thanks
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your 1st and 2nd gear would be to low 1st would not even be usable.
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By checking the tag on the one I drove in Florida and on mine and actually counting the ratios with the trans out on mine, they are both the 3.00 1st, 1.77 2nd, 1.00 3rd and .725 4th. this is the 37% trans. With the stock trans and the new engine I can easily start in second or go around corners without shifting. A lot better for the car and more fun to downshift though!
37% would be .63 4th, or is my math wrong?
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there are many disscussions on this ,ive done these for over 20 years,and figure .725= 28% o.d. the books call it 37% go figure?
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Thanks for the information will try to swap out the gears called cobra transmission today they are suspoist to get back with me any one have a cluster geer and fourth laying around would be intersted thanks
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,if you want the .28% you will need an input shaft, overdrive gear and cluster. 22% you will need an overdrive gear and cluster. (both not easy to find) i have a complete 22% o.d. kit for sale,$2975.00+ shipping, (paypal only)
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,if you want the .28% you will need an input shaft, overdrive gear and cluster. 22% you will need an overdrive gear and cluster. (both not easy to find) i have a complete 22% o.d. kit for sale,$2975.00+ shipping, (paypal only)
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miss victoria, I think the way you're calculating the OD percentage is totally wrong. A transmission with a .7246 OD ratio means the engine turns .7246 revolutions and the drive shaft turns 1 revolution. So, when the engine has turned 1 full revolution, the drive shaft has turned 1.38007 revolutions. It is overdriven by 38%. So, a final OD ratio of .7837 = 27.6% and .7087 = 41.1%. There isn't a 22% OD transmission for that F150 tremec transmission. Please see my chart (post #8) earlier in this thread .
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chiliman, you may want to look into the 41.1% transmission further. The gear ratios in that transmission are; 1st = 3.006, 2nd =1.776, 3rd = 1.00 and fourth is .7087. Now if you do the math, with a 4.11 rear end ratio, the final drive ratios are 1st =12.35, 2nd =7.29, 3rd = 4.11 and fourth is 2.91. Compare this to a 3.78 rear and the 27.6% OD transmission and you get 1st = 12.28, 2nd = 7.25, 3rd = 3.78 and fourth is 2.96. Looks like the only big difference is 3rd gear, 4.11 verses 3.78. Using the 41.1% transmission is going to be way cheaper than buying all the guts you'll need to change it to a 27.6% OD transmission.
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Sorry al i dont agree with you ,no one i know that used that o.d. Raito liked it. I throw those gear sets away.
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... have talked to at least 20 people that have the transmission in discussion and EVERY one of them said after driving it that they were not completely satisfied with the ratios. I noticed quite a few on this thread said the same thing...
Talk to me, then that will ruin your 100% record!
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Al in NY thanks for the in formation sounds like 41% with 411 rear end may be the way to go I have one of them scoped out for 200 dollars pulled the top off today at the reabilders gears all look good he is gona be ording the rebuild kit bearings scrnozer and shaft I may try it with the 378 rear first but Im thinking it wont have much power will keep you informed thanks agin
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miss victoria, I wasn't recommending the 41.1% OD transmission, just trying to show you the correct way to calculate OD percentage.
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The new aluminum F150 Model A clutch housing (Mac's?) I recently saw in Wisconsin did not impress me much. Great idea, but poorly executed.

They did not bother to index their new housing design to the Model A flywheel housing to insure or control the centerline alignment of the transmission to the flywheel.

All you guys that agonize over 'dialing in' the flywheel housing to the block can throw away all your fancy measuring tools and replace them with a Stanley tape measure when using the new F150 Model A bell housing I saw.
Did the housing you saw have Macspeed embossed on it, because the Macspeed units here in New Zealand are superb quality, and there are a great number of them in use. I'm picking the one you saw was either some off brand or if it was a Macspeed it would have to be a rogue unit that slipped through. I have no affiliation with Macspeed, but Graeme MacNeill has a fantastic reputation for top quality work here in kiwiland.
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I have been building thes F150 transmiissions for Model A Fords since 1998. I know these gear sets too. Al has the information right on the way to figure the OD %. Subtracting the .70 or .72 or .78 from 100 does not give a true OD %. Subrtacting onlly gives one a numerical figure not a %.

BTW I do not recommend the 41% for the Model A. The 37% only in very special conditions. I drive a 31 Model A coupe with the 27% and a 31 S/W Fordor with a 27% as well as a speedster with the same tranny. I love the combo in all three cars.
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The $500 price tag is probably why using the AA bell housing and fabricating a pedal mount is why the guys making the kits do it that way.
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CarlG What % transmission you running and with what rear end? thanks
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4th gear (Overdrive) is .78 which is either 22% or 27% depending on whose math method you use. The rear end ratio is stock Model A, which I believe is 3.78

From my experience, which is only about 1,500 miles, this combination is very acceptable, runs well under 2,000 rpm at 55mph.
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thanks for the information
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Next question.... the adaptor plate to mount the torque tube to the trans... is this available, or does it need to be custom made? Also the u-joint... what is used here?
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There are kits avail from diff venues for this conversion, either 3 spd or 5 spd. Some require frame mods, some open drive, some closed drive. There's an ad for the conv in every hemmings mag, also ck on the HAMB.
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I can sell you a complete kit $2995.00 or machine all your parts inc rear adptor $1200.00. (pay pal only)
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miss victoria my set up is with a open drive shaft and I gess you know I have the 41% dont look as if the 26 % geer sets are easy to find new or used It is going in a rodester pickup gess I will give it a try and see if it will have enough power what are your findings with 41%? Will probly begetting one of your mastercylinder battery boxs later this year just starting to put together thanks for your input
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you will like the full sycromesh,1st to 3rd will be fine, o.d on flat ground ok. the pick up is light so the more hp the better.
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thanks for information have the 37% in myfourdoor works great can't wait to get the pickup going
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Miss VICTORIA Do you sell your master cylinder battery box set up without the master cylinder would cut down on shiping weight may go with a power bosster one if so how much and shiping to kansas city thanks
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I have a T170 that I want to use but the overdrive is 41%. I have been trying to find a 26% cluster gear and overdrive gear for some time now with no success. Do any of you know where I might find these parts?
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can sell you one without a master cly, i pay $55.00 for one. , need a zip code for shipping cost, but figure around $35.00 thanks
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those gear sets are no longer made,i have them but need them for my kits,if i come across an extra set will let you know.
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For RTS parts try:

www.drivetrain.com .........or www.standardtransmission.com
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I was at a car show this past weekend in Altoona. I met two fellows that had early 50's pu's side by side - both flatheads. One had the mid 80's 3sd w/OD and the other had the T-5 5sp. Both agreed that the 5 sp was a better choice because of the gearing. 1st a little low but nice between 2, 3 & 4 on the T-5. They said the 3sp OD had a wide gap between 2nd & 3rd. These were multiple owners and drivers. One fellow had the pu w/3sp OD and a 53 Ford with the T-5. Again he said he like the T-5 better. They also recommended the Cornhuskers kit w/hyd slave cyl. I'm always trying to learn from those who have already gone thru the process. What do you think?
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IMO, the 5 spd is a harder install. The RTS 3 spd w/OD has essentially the same gearing as the Model 3 spd in gears 1 thru 3. What you gain is the OD. Also, the RTS install doesn't modify the car as much as the T5.
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Miss Victora my zip is 64068 thanks
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I think the Mitchell Over drive will be my choice. Six speeds forward and about the same amount of money.

I thought some people had trouble with Dave. They could not get their stuff and he was in rehab. This could be something else or a different person but I thought it was over drive transmissions.
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yes i did have problems, over 2 years ago, everyone recieved there transmissions, yes late but they got them, some people just cant let go. if theres dirt to be spread some just have to do it,do your homework before you post negitive against anyone. thank you.
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Battery box no master cly,(will inc the master cly mount but not welded on so you can place it where you want)$295.00 inc shipping,commit to buy on ebay,will send you an invoice for pay pal. thanks.
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yes i did have problems, over 2 years ago, everyone recieved there transmissions, yes late but they got them, some people just cant let go. if theres dirt to be spread some just have to do it,do your homework before you post negitive against anyone. thank you.

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I was doing my homework. I am glad you are up and running. I just asked a question and now I know. Sorry that I upset you.
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... some people just cant let go...
I just can't let go --- of the transmission I got from Dave. I think it's great, and I love it. The machine work Dave does is top shelf, as is his customer service. Dave doesn't just sell parts, he sells a complete working system, and is there to make sure it works as advertised. I would buy another one from him in a New York Minute, I just don't have another car to put it in right now.

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IMO, the 5 spd is a harder install. The RTS 3 spd w/OD has essentially the same gearing as the Model 3 spd in gears 1 thru 3. What you gain is the OD. Also, the RTS install doesn't modify the car as much as the T5.
Even without the Overdrive, the syncromesh is worth the effort! I just LOVE mine!
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Old 08-20-2012, 09:47 AM   #199
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In my victoria i put a close raito 4 speed gear set insted of an overdrive set.with .354 rear end.
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In my 32, I put a 4 speed toploader and a Gear Vendors OD. 8 forward speeds
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In my 32, I put a 4 speed toploader and a Gear Vendors OD. 8 forward speeds

Kuhuna

Could you explain and show pictures of a gear vendor overdrive? I have not heard of a gear vendor over drive.

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Gear Vendor is the manuf.
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Gear Vendor is the manuf.
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That reply was kind of vague. Is the overdrive a bolt on to the transmission or did they build the whole unit which includes the transmission and overdrive unit. I am still confused.
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Old 08-20-2012, 01:05 PM   #204
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They come either way. They have adapters to bolt them to the back of the transmission or
they can be put in the drive line.
Link http://www.gearvendors.com/custom.html

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They come either way. They have adapters to bolt them to the back of the transmission or
they can be put in the drive line.
Link http://www.gearvendors.com/custom.html

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Thanks for the reply. I went to the site and I seem to be having trouble navigating to the right location. I will have to return to the site again.

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Gear Vendors makes all kinds of stuff. Generally, they make adapters so that an O/D can be added to some or all of the most popular transmissions (Std and automatics). I think they also now do an in-driveshaft O/D for Model A's and early V8 Fords.
Keep in mind that Gear Vendors owns all the stuff that was originally the Laycock-De-Normanville Overdrive (Volvo, Austin Healey, Triumph, etc.).
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Here are a few pictures. The transmission is a Jeep Aluminum case, fitted with Ford gears (yes, they fit w/out modification). Then an adapter was made to connect the O/D to it.
The shifter top assy is also Jeep and I used a Marlin model 66 gun barrel to be able to run the wires from the shift ball. The ball is from a Volvo and has the switch in it to trigger a set of relays to engage the O/D
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very nice looking job!!!
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Thank You
I've got about 750 miles on the car now. The O/D functions well. I'm running a 4.11 rear axle, and in O/D it equates to a 3.20
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Here is the T-5 with a closed drive line in a stock A chassis




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another nice looking conversion!!
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I appreciate the pictures and the information. I am going to have a wait for a while to do something. I kind of like Dave's the best right now.

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Old 08-22-2012, 04:13 AM   #213
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Model A adaptors 004.jpg

Model A adaptors 005.jpg

Model A adaptors 006.jpg
The photos show a bell housing adaptor made in New Zealand by Mac's Speed shop and sold in the States. (I don't know who by)
This alloy casting includes the shaft for the clutch forks and pedals left or right hand drive
It is a simple bolt-on job for the F150 gearbox, but because the input shaft spline starts further back than the Model A one, a special offset clutch plate has to be made.
In this installation, there is also a quick change rear end and consequently there is also an open prop shaft
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:17 AM   #214
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That is a nice bellhousing, saw one at a swap meet the vendor had a price tag $395.00 did not notice is there a mount on the bottom for the wishbone?
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That is a nice bellhousing, saw one at a swap meet the vendor had a price tag $395.00 did not notice is there a mount on the bottom for the wishbone?
Yes.........
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Who is NOW building these transmissions and that are RELIABLE. Dave's Delhume site is down again. I can't get in contact with him.
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I have a model a and want to keep it as stock as possible if I want race I would buy a lamborgini I am not trying to be cheeky but why a A if not to put around han have people admire my car stock?
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Who is NOW building these transmissions and that are RELIABLE. Dave's Delmue's site is down again. I can't get in contact with him.
I just went to his site and it came right up:
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