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Old 09-08-2011, 09:30 PM   #61
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Lee told us that he wanted to donate the collection and not split up a thing. It was all or nothing and I have a few buddies tell me the same. He was a cool guy and could talk your ear off with stories. Sorry I could not get to see him before he pass god speed Lee.
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:59 PM   #62
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My bet is close to if not just over 3 million dollars. total...
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Old 09-11-2011, 12:51 PM   #64
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It all depends on how many "smalls" will be in Box Lot sales. They can't sell one spark plug at a time. The auction price vs flip resale price should be interesting to watch.
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Roadster62 , there was alot of show cases filled with goodies and if you look at some of the cars they were filled too with stuff. I would like to know if he collected such things as Owner Manuals , tools and tool bags ,, and hope Model "A' people get a chance to buy and Study some of the cars... Might open up to some questions with the answers we are looking for...Did i hear right , there's a 1932 roadster in there with 1400 miles???Still like the paddy wagon! Wonder if the red and blue headlights flash back and forth???Would be neat back then! Just to add something ,,,Wonder if he collected keys????

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That PATTY Wagon most likely will go on tour as part of Chicago Mob History, and join the Bonnie & Clyde Death Car, and every Mercedes Adolf broke wind in. I'm half Irish so I'd like to correct the Police Wagon spelling. It is PATTY, short for Pat or Patrick. The term goes back to the Civil War Draft Riots in 1863 when many Irish imigrants were hauled away in them.
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15% buyers premium- you can keep it..... I won't be going.
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I'm half Irish so I'd like to correct the Police Wagon spelling. It is PATTY, short for Pat or Patrick.
Tomato/Tomoto. Here on the Southside of Chicago we Southside Irish call them Paddy Wagons. After all, Padraig is Gaelic for Patrick, so it can work both ways. Most of the PD's out here call them Paddy Wagons as well even the modern Ford and Chevy versions.

I go off the belief that they are so named because Police Dept's back then were predominately Irish.

Maybe it be best if we just refer to them like Ford did in late '31, Police Patrols.
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Are the AA Police Patrols actualy different than the Panel Delivery bodies?
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Roadster62 , there was alot of show cases filled with goodies and if you look at some of the cars they were filled too with stuff. I would like to know if he collected such things as Owner Manuals , tools and tool bags ,, and hope Model "A' people get a chance to buy and Study some of the cars... Might open up to some questions with the answers we are looking for...Did i hear right , there's a 1932 roadster in there with 1400 miles???Still like the paddy wagon! Wonder if the red and blue headlights flash back and forth???Would be neat back then! Just to add something ,,,Wonder if he collected keys????
it could have been 14,000 miles i can't remember
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Are the AA Police Patrols actualy different than the Panel Delivery bodies?
Yes.

It should be noted that the wagon in the Hartung collection is not an actual Ford Police Patrol. It is a bus body that was made into a wagon by someone (CPD?).

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Old 09-12-2011, 12:36 AM   #72
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Thanks for the update and illustrations WTSHUN. That says something about Chicago, even then they needed a bus over a standard Patrol. Tim, thank you for the math lesson, most guys don't add the cost of food & motel and loss of pay to the price of items bought at Hershey. I'd guess that is 15%+ on every item bought.
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So then the Paddy Wagon isn't either of the above two body styles? Does anyone have a picture of the type of 'bus body' it is??
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Now that sucks about the paddy wagon.... Wonder if it has S/S AA Hub caps in good shape or any shape at all. I believe Snyder's is looking for some for a AA restoration of his... Any one out there has some??? Give him a call..thank you
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:46 PM   #75
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I'm wondering how they are going to sell the vehicles, are they going to move them out so they can be inspected or are they going to be sold as is where everything is so close not sure of how good a look you are going to get. The motorcycles I'm sure they will move, but don't know about the cars.
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Old 09-12-2011, 03:54 PM   #76
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Yes.

It should be noted that the wagon in the Hartung collection is not an actual Ford Police Patrol. It is a bus body that was made into a wagon by someone (CPD?).

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That's interesting, good catch. It does look like a flat face cowl with a wider than police patrol body doesn't it? Wonder if it's actually a police unit or just something that was done up for a parade car way back when?
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Old 09-12-2011, 06:06 PM   #77
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(pictures from flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/67284583@N08/)


Here are two other pictures showing a little bit more detail (or at least what can be seen).

Few things that point out this isn't a Police Patrol...
The flat firewall.
No cowl lights.
The back edge of the door curves towards the front of the car, the Police Patrols had a vertical line.

Also, the "M" license plate on the vehicle is incorrect. "M" plates started being used to signify "Municipal" plates in IL back in 1939/1940. From 1929 until 1939 "M" plates were used to signify the smallest weight class of trucks.

Still pretty cool looking though!
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Boy, until that last picture, I wasn't all that concerned about the flooding up above the running boards thing, but that doesn't look too good to me. Anything can be fixed or replaced, but it is a shame that a neat collection like this had to sit in water. I wonder for how long? Anyone know? Those two running boards are pretty rusty. I saw it on one of the motercycles also about 1/2 way up the tire/wheel. Interesting, thanks for the post.
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Just looking again....does anybody else think that maybe the 'Chicago' plate above the windshield might be homemade also?? I think the lettering would have been better than that if it was actually police-done. Just an observation.
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Timothy, my point is 1000. +15% buyers premium +10% Chicago sales tax + shipping =

You do the math. Doesn't work for me.
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