Three questions about parking brake

[Werner]

Hello everybody,

I have 3 questions about the parking brake:

1) I suspect that the emergency brake band on my roadster was mounted upside down. When I look at the inside of the brake carrier, I see two "noses". One side is ground smooth and is quite angled 90 °. On the other side, the nose is slanted and a bit round.

I think that the rectangular area has to look inwards, because the nose slides there on the base plate?

Please look both pictures.

2) The parking brake lever is open at the outer end. There must (how?) grease pressed to lubricate the shaft.

On my two waves are only holes, no thread for a lubricating nipple. Is there something missing or how was it smeared there?
(I've now cut a thread and mounted a nipple.)

3) The parking brake is also called emergency brake. The sliding surface of the base plate was bent downwards. Some wrote that happens when the parking brake was used to slow down.

Is this the fault of the wrong assembly or is it really only for emergency use?

I thank you in advance for all hints!

[Bob C]

Question #2. You would need a drive in type grease fitting.


Bob

[Werner]

Hello Bob,


thank you for the explanation of question # 2. Now I build all those nipples to the currently used hydraulic nipples around.

[briphaeton]

With mechanical brakes the saying is " If you use them to much - you loose them" So use your gears by down shifting to slow down without using your brakes too much. The emergency brake is use mostly as a parking brake and if all else fails to stop the car. The grease fittings come in different configurations- the original style as you shown and the more modern style that fits today's grease guns. They sell a adapter to fit the original style grease fittings.

[daveymc29]

For the most part the "emergency" brake is used as parking brake and sometimes as a means of holding the car on a hill at a light, then driving on. Most of us have seen or heard of troubles with the entire assembly turning within the drum while the driver was using the hand brake as an emergency brake. If it avoids a crash and you have to tow it home, at least you avoided the crash, but I have never felt that I would try to use it for a fast moving stop.

[Synchro909]

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That's why they are called a "Hand Brake" or "Parking Brake" elsewhere in the world!

[Benson]

Originally Posted by Werner

Hello everybody,

I have 3 questions about the parking brake:

1) I suspect that the emergency brake band on my roadster was mounted upside down. When I look at the inside of the brake carrier, I see two "noses". One side is ground smooth and is quite angled 90 °. On the other side, the nose is slanted and a bit round.

I think that the rectangular area has to look inwards, because the nose slides there on the base plate?

Please look both pictures.

2) The parking brake lever is open at the outer end. There must (how?) grease pressed to lubricate the shaft.

On my two waves are only holes, no thread for a lubricating nipple. Is there something missing or how was it smeared there?
(I've now cut a thread and mounted a nipple.)

3) The parking brake is also called emergency brake. The sliding surface of the base plate was bent downwards. Some wrote that happens when the parking brake was used to slow down.

Is this the fault of the wrong assembly or is it really only for emergency use?

I thank you in advance for all hints!

#1 Yes E brake band is installed backwards according to the photo in your other recent thread.


#3 Yes using E brake to stop moving car is a bad idea and damage as you showed in your photo on other thread is the result.

I never had the guts to try a Hand Brake stop after installing the later version years ago.

There are about 4 versions of E Brake plate in an attempt to fix this.

See Service bulletin 482 for drawing of latest version.
Bert's has a reproduction (REPRO) of this version for sale.

THis version has the four tabs and the re-enforced plate in the area that you show to be damaged in the first thread.

[Benson]

Post #7 by 160B shows the newest version that you can see the tabs (at least one of the tabs) at 7 0'clock and re-enforcing plate with the rivet that holds it to the plate at 5 o'clock.


https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=258122

[Werner]

Hello Benson,

Your hints are very helpful. I have the Servicebulletin as you can see. But not all answers I will find there. -

So that we do not misunderstand ourselves: The right angle nose - shown in the picture - must be mounted inwards to the base plate?

Thank you very much!

[Benson]

Originally Posted by Werner

Hello Benson,

Your hints are very helpful. I have the Servicebulletin as you can see. But not all answers I will find there. -

So that we do not misunderstand ourselves: The right angle nose - shown in the picture - must be mounted inwards to the base plate?

Thank you very much!

Yes

[Werner]

Benson,
then they were mounted the wrong way around! Thank you very much for the important help.

[denniskliesen]

Werner try them both way and you will see they only fit properly one way. Just throwing this in regarding your backing plate, the easy way to determine the side the backing plate is on the proper side is by the grease and oil drain hole must be on the bottom. That is indicated by the red arrow. The operating shaft always goes to the forward side of the rear axle. Also notice when installing the arm on the passenger side is marked with a L, and driver side is marked with an R.

[Werner]

Many thanks at all,

the reare brakes now are finaly ready. 3 times demounted again. Now the floaters are completely new, made holes with thread for grease nipples, all is mounted with anti friction coat. Additionally a new spring, new brass pans, new shock adsorbers.

Many hours! But it will be a good car!


Next step: front axle.

[Benson]

Originally Posted by denniskliesen

Werner try them both way and you will see they only fit properly one way. Just throwing this in regarding your backing plate, the easy way to determine the side the backing plate is on the proper side is by the grease and oil drain hole must be on the bottom. That is indicated by the red arrow. The operating shaft always goes to the forward side of the rear axle. Also notice when installing the arm on the passenger side is marked with a L, and driver side is marked with an R.

THis is good info also.

What we are talking about is the brake BAND being installed backwards.

[Werner]

Hello to each other.

I'm confused now. I opened the brakes again. I can not detect a mounting error anywhere. I have compared with the original books.

The brake band slides correctly on the edges of the carrier plate with the right-angled slide lugs.

What did I misunderstand?

The pictures show the left car site (driver).