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Old 10-10-2016, 10:57 PM   #1
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Default Finding a transmission post help

Ok, I've tried but I can't find a post that was a step by step to rebuilding the closed 3 spd trans. It had info on aftermarket blockers/synchos with pictures, not sure if it was one here or the HAMB. I searched MacV's and the Lacy's posts...but can up with nothing. I really thought I either bookmarked or watched the thread, but no.


Can someone post up a link if they find it....
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Old 10-11-2016, 05:31 AM   #2
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Mac Van Pelt has a book "The Ins and Outs of Ford Transmissions." There's also this link which covers the second gear spacer washer:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...=Trans+Synchro
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:31 AM   #3
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The book from Mac VanPelt is a great guide - also, he has all the parts that you'll need to do the job. Warning: There are a lot of reproduction parts that are of very low or questionable quality - so go with a vendor that can be trusted.

Here is list of things to be particularly aware of:

1) New synchros - many of the repops have incorrect dimensions and don't work as they should.
2) Caged Roller Bearings (cluster and input/main shaft locations - 3 of them). Many of the repops do not have hardened cages - they should be hardened
3) Front and Rear Main Ball Bearings: Most everything you see out there is manufactured in China . . . they may work, they may wear out - you take the chance.
4) Replacement cluster shaft and reverse idler shaft. The ones I got were not anywhere near as hard as the ones from Ford . . . they will wear out much faster as a result. All my 'spare shafts' had a wear of about .0025 on them (worse case) - I didn't want to live with that.

Mac can help you with quality parts on items 1 - 3. On number 4, I'm making my own shafts because I can't find any NOS ones and I want them to have good materials and the correct hardness. I'll post some pictures later.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:44 AM   #4
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x10 on what B & S says. Beware of syncros from anyone other than VanPelt, same
with shafts. Too many other vendors offer shafts made from pre ground semi hard
steel, .002 undersize.
Pretty quick we get to understand why VanPelt and Co. is doing so well.
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Mac VP has the split rings that you can actually get on and off and they are the correct thickness. He goes well beyond the other suppliers when it comes to his specialty. You won't find this from many of the parts sources out there.
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Old 10-11-2016, 12:40 PM   #6
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I have his book, just wanted to get as much info as I could before I start.

I did see that post, this had build pics and tip to make repo parts work better. I though it was the Lacys post.
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I have his book, just wanted to get as much info as I could before I start.

I did see that post, this had build pics and tip to make repo parts work better. I though it was the Lacys post.
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Here is one that has good info: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ht=gear+spacer
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Old 10-12-2016, 12:24 AM   #9
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Found it, It's on the HAMB by Dennis Lacy.

Page 18:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...970252/page-18
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Old 10-12-2016, 05:49 AM   #10
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Thanks Old Timer! I'm not a regular on the HAMB so I've never seen that before. I had a rough time putting my transmission together because I had pressed the rear bearing on the main shaft before. That meant that I had to remove the synchronizer assembly to get the main shaft in and then reinstall it afterwards. Live and learn, live and learn, etc.
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Found it, It's on the HAMB by Dennis Lacy.

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This was a well put together article. Dennis does not recommend using white assembly grease. He is worried it will dry out (if stored for a while) and cause problems getting the gear lube thru to the bearings and bushings.

Last week, I just finished assembling a '52 3 speed light duty side shift. I think everything went together well enough, but I used white assembly grease (Lubi-plate #105). The rollers in the cluster are loose, not caged and need grease to hold them in place during assembly.

I guess I'll fill it up with a GL-4 synthetic gear lube (I can't seem to find a mineral base one locally) and spin it in by hand. I don't know if it will mix in alright tho.
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Stay away from grease. Only use it to hold the ball bearings in place on the syncro gear. Mac is the best and very helpful, his book is well worth the cost.
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Old 10-12-2016, 08:34 PM   #13
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I use this at work with hyd parts and my local trans shop uses it.

http://www.lubegard.com/~/C-215/Dr.+...+Assemblee+Goo

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