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Old 12-07-2012, 01:03 PM   #1
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Default A400 on eBay

$36,500

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SS%3AUS%3A1123

(Not my listing)
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Old 12-07-2012, 01:32 PM   #2
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Should be 400A, I saw that this morning descent looking car!
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Check it out this 400-A has one (maybe more) non original feature.

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Old 12-07-2012, 02:44 PM   #4
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Should be 400A, I saw that this morning descent looking car!
Should be "decent."

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:04 PM   #5
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Should be 400A, I saw that this morning descent looking car!

Should be "decent."

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.
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Maybe Steve meant they had the mouse smell out of the car! Then it would be descent. LOL
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Old 12-07-2012, 03:37 PM   #6
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I like the look of the rear trunk with the attached spare. On the 400A it kind'a gives it that European look to it. We all know the factory would have never spit one out like that. But I'm sure a dealer would have done it for the customer with the money.

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Old 12-07-2012, 07:38 PM   #7
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OK, it looks like a nice car and I'm in a crappy mood, but...

This dude is asking $36,500 based on four pictures and a description that says the car runs and has ash trays and a lighter??!! And he has only 5 feedbacks (only 3 as seller), all of which are at least 4 years old?! Buyer beware! Are we supposed to be impressed because it is "the rarest of the Model A's" (actually, it isn't) and was in Harrah's collection 27 years ago? I don't think so. If the seller wants to get his asking price, he better do a whole lot better marketing job.
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Old 12-07-2012, 07:43 PM   #8
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I guess I agree with CHuDWah. Might as well have taken the pictures from across the street for as good as they are. No side mounts is a curious thing, isn't it?
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Old 12-07-2012, 10:00 PM   #9
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The seller is real.

Here is the same car in 1960 in Pennsylvania. (posted with permission from the Penn-Ohio Model A ford Club)


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Here is the same car in 1960 in Pennsylvania. (posted with permission from the Penn-Ohio Model A ford Club)


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It's interesting that the car was modified that long ago but that fits if it was from the Harrah's collection which had an odd mix of quality but looked great to the masses. Of course "the seller is real". A close friend went up there to look at it about 6-8 months ago but turned around and came home (about 450 miles). Someone else may choose differently.
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OK, it looks like a nice car and I'm in a crappy mood, but...

This dude is asking $36,500 based on four pictures and a description that says the car runs and has ash trays and a lighter??!! And he has only 5 feedbacks (only 3 as seller), all of which are at least 4 years old?! Buyer beware! Are we supposed to be impressed because it is "the rarest of the Model A's" (actually, it isn't) and was in Harrah's collection 27 years ago? I don't think so. If the seller wants to get his asking price, he better do a whole lot better marketing job.
I was thinking the same thing.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:30 PM   #12
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I was thinking the same thing.
...or maybe his psychology will work by his enticing really interested individuals to contact him personally instead of by bidding because of the vague description and small pictures? When $36k is involved, most people who are potential buyers are going to be exchanging lots of correspondence or want to view it in person. If they view it in person and have cash in hand (even if not the amount in the eBay auction), it may be sold anyway no matter what the auction listing looks like!

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Old 12-07-2012, 11:49 PM   #13
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$35,000-$45,000 seems to be the going price for an A400. I bought mine from one picture on a poster board at Hershey. If you want a rare car, you have to jump on it, not gripe about pic quality. You want the car or not? I would suggest the new owner put the correct side mount back on.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:28 AM   #14
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Which at this point would be a BETTER BUY??? AND "SHAPE" This 400A with the top up or the 180A Deluxe Phaeton for the same asking price??? That trunk rack had to be made up with that spare.[and how is it attached].. Sorry that's butt ugly spare and rack...even back then...60's
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Old 12-08-2012, 11:59 AM   #15
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Having worked at Harrah's during the final years, I can offer some insights. Harrah had the foresight to buy cars like this in the 1950s and 1960s when they were pretty much ignored by most people as being used cars. Who else, in the 1950s and 1960s thought highly enough about Fords to have one of every year and model on display from 1903 until the most current model built that year? From about 1960 onward, Harrah even bought a brand new Ford every year for the collection. In the Model A category, there were over 50 cars representing every body style including AA and commercial, town cars, taxi, cars with period speed equipment and accessories, race cars etc.
I vaguely remember this car (there were over 1,600 cars there when I started, but, having always been a "T and A" fan, I paid special attention to the early Fords) and do remember when it sold at auction in the mid-1980s. Like all of Harrah's Fords, this was a solid, low mileage, undamaged and very original car, and had one repaint, re-upholstery and top done probably 50 or 60 years ago. I don't know what the current owner(s) have done with the car since being purchased in the 1980s, but I know when it left Harrah's it was a solid and honest old car. If it were mine, I would get it mechanically sorted out and drive the wheels off of it the way it is. How many mostly original 400As are out there that haven't been over restored and turned into MARC/MAFCA trophy whores? And yes, cars from the Harrah collection do carry a price premium. I have bought and sold many.... Having a car that was owned by Harrah's can be compared with buying a piece of civil war memorabilia that was part of the Smithsonian or a piece of art work from the Metropolitan Museum.
Somewhere, there should be a brass tag attached to this car (unless it has been removed). This tag will have a number stamped on it. Every car that came into Harrahs was given a number which indicated its sequential acquisition number. Typically, if the number is under 1,000 war purchased before 1965. By the time the collection stopped buying cars in the mid-1970s, this number was near 3,000.

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Old 12-08-2012, 01:44 PM   #16
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Turned into a {MARC/MAFCA trophy WHORE??} If one spends the TIME and MONEY to have or do a FULLY RESTORED SHOW CAR to this LEVEL then you are calling me a PIMP?? i PIMP my car around the car shows... When the Statue of Liberty was restored years ago was she a whore ?or my flint lock rifle or anything of age then is a whore..To me it was RESTORING A WORK OF "ART" and using the term "WHORE is not correct !!! MY "A" is a BITCH....only when it does not run right. then its a son of a BITCH...
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Old 12-08-2012, 02:08 PM   #17
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Just kidding and trying to make a point!!!! I have seen your phaeton and it is truly a work of art and I appreciate the level of restoration and research involved in restoring such a rare model to such a degree of accuracy. Sorry to have offended you...................
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:39 PM   #18
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not offended at all [that's why i ended with saying My "A' is a bitch....I should of put L.O.L.
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Old 12-08-2012, 04:10 PM   #19
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Which at this point would be a BETTER BUY??? AND "SHAPE" This 400A with the top up or the 180A Deluxe Phaeton for the same asking price??? That trunk rack had to be made up with that spare.[and how is it attached].. Sorry that's butt ugly spare and rack...even back then...60's
I might be mistaken, but the trunk looks like a Kari Keen with the bracket for the spare tire on the back. Looking at the rear bumpers they are mounted in the same position as the bumpers on my 31 S/W which has a Kari Keen trunk mounted on an original era bracket system that provides an extension to the rear bumper brackets and moves the rear bumper mounting point. See the below photos
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