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stovebolt · 09-26-2011, 07:37 AM

I have a few questions about these wheels.
Firstly, approximately how long after 1948 did Ford produce these wheels as replacement wheels? Before and after 1948, were the dates always stamped and were they always stamped in the same location? Were the replacement wheels always painted black?
Secondly, were aftermarket wheels produced during and after 40-48?
On these wheels, were the dates always stamped and always in the same location? Were they always painted black? Thank you for any information provided. Joe.

blucar · 09-26-2011, 10:35 AM

I don't have the actual printed info in front of me, however, if my memory serves me correctly, the '40-48 16" style of wheel was used by Ford up through '65 on the F-100's as an option... It is also very possible that Ford offered the 16" wheel as an option on cars after '48. Of course the bolt pattern would no be the same as the '40-48 cars and F-100's through '79. Ford usually used Kelsey-Hayes and Firestone produced wheels, however, Budd most likely built the same type of wheels.
As to the date/brand stampings: The stampings are very inconsistent, I have '36 and later wheels that are not marked and/or are marked with Ford, KH and/or Firestone... I don't recall seeing date stamps on any of these wheels..
I think the date stamping of wheels is something that started in the late '60's, early '70's when everything had to have DOT approvals for weight, etc..
The wheel colors on Fords cars were generally the same as the body color.

alanwoodieman · 09-26-2011, 10:40 AM

I purchased some NOS Ford wheels and they were not stamped with dates, just KH, they had painted part numbers and where sort of a simi-gloss/chassis black paint, I also found an original wheel with I suppose body color and when blasting the paint off, it had one coat of color and was the same black as the NOS wheels. Remember 40, early 41 wheels were made different than the other years.

truckdog62563 · 09-26-2011, 11:23 AM

Kelsey-Hayes still had them in their Jan. '53 catalog. Ford #01A 1015 and K-H #22977. Stu

rustythumb · 09-26-2011, 11:57 AM

i've read that only '40 & '41 were 4", '42-'48 were 4 1/2". also, the area around lugs has a different design after about '49.

truckdog62563 · 09-26-2011, 01:42 PM

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K-H lists the 4" used through '48. Stu

stovebolt · 09-26-2011, 03:40 PM

What are the differences between the 40/41 and 42 to 48? I'm always refering to passenger car wheels 16"X4". Are there different bolt patterns within this group?

Kube · 09-26-2011, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stovebolt

What are the differences between the 40/41 and 42 to 48? I'm always refering to passenger car wheels 16"X4". Are there different bolt patterns within this group?

The design of the wheel is different as Alan states in 40 - 41. Hopefully the picture will help. Notice the right angles (A to B) of this 40 rim? The later rims are very curved in this area. Much stronger design for certain and little doubt the reason for the change.
Many of the rims in 1940 were date coded as seen in one of my photos.

stovebolt · 09-27-2011, 03:25 PM

Thanks to everyone. Kube, is that pronounced sharp angle on the front side as well as the back side?

09-26-2011, 07:37 AM	#1
stovebolt Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 31	1940-48 16"X4" Wheels I have a few questions about these wheels. Firstly, approximately how long after 1948 did Ford produce these wheels as replacement wheels? Before and after 1948, were the dates always stamped and were they always stamped in the same location? Were the replacement wheels always painted black? Secondly, were aftermarket wheels produced during and after 40-48? On these wheels, were the dates always stamped and always in the same location? Were they always painted black? Thank you for any information provided. Joe.

09-26-2011, 10:40 AM	#3
alanwoodieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: upstate SC Posts: 2,963	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels I purchased some NOS Ford wheels and they were not stamped with dates, just KH, they had painted part numbers and where sort of a simi-gloss/chassis black paint, I also found an original wheel with I suppose body color and when blasting the paint off, it had one coat of color and was the same black as the NOS wheels. Remember 40, early 41 wheels were made different than the other years.

09-26-2011, 11:23 AM	#4
truckdog62563 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, Il Posts: 599	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels Kelsey-Hayes still had them in their Jan. '53 catalog. Ford #01A 1015 and K-H #22977. Stu __________________ Stu McMillan Marmon-Herringtons Last edited by truckdog62563; 09-26-2011 at 06:15 PM.

09-26-2011, 11:57 AM	#5
rustythumb Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: orange co. ca. Posts: 178	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels i've read that only '40 & '41 were 4", '42-'48 were 4 1/2". also, the area around lugs has a different design after about '49.

09-26-2011, 01:42 PM	#6
truckdog62563 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rochester, Il Posts: 599	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) K-H lists the 4" used through '48. Stu __________________ Stu McMillan Marmon-Herringtons

09-26-2011, 10:35 AM	#2
blucar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 2,464	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels I don't have the actual printed info in front of me, however, if my memory serves me correctly, the '40-48 16" style of wheel was used by Ford up through '65 on the F-100's as an option... It is also very possible that Ford offered the 16" wheel as an option on cars after '48. Of course the bolt pattern would no be the same as the '40-48 cars and F-100's through '79. Ford usually used Kelsey-Hayes and Firestone produced wheels, however, Budd most likely built the same type of wheels. As to the date/brand stampings: The stampings are very inconsistent, I have '36 and later wheels that are not marked and/or are marked with Ford, KH and/or Firestone... I don't recall seeing date stamps on any of these wheels.. I think the date stamping of wheels is something that started in the late '60's, early '70's when everything had to have DOT approvals for weight, etc.. The wheel colors on Fords cars were generally the same as the body color. __________________ Bill.... 36 5 win cpe

09-26-2011, 03:40 PM	#7
stovebolt Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 31	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels What are the differences between the 40/41 and 42 to 48? I'm always refering to passenger car wheels 16"X4". Are there different bolt patterns within this group?

09-27-2011, 03:25 PM	#9
stovebolt Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Quebec Posts: 31	Re: 1940-48 16"X4" Wheels Thanks to everyone. Kube, is that pronounced sharp angle on the front side as well as the back side?