Least Produced Model "A"

[Bob Bidonde]

What Model "A" vehicle had the least production amount?

[ronn]

towncar?

[Oldbluoval]

Slant windshield town car delivery??

[CHuDWah]

I'd guess Travelers Wagon - AFAIK, only about a dozen made.

[1930artdeco]

What about the Stainless Steel ones?


Mike

[J Franklin]

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The stainless one was a rebodied advertisement. It shouldn't count.

[updraught]

1931 all year here, everything. Zero. Done.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by updraught

1931 all year here, everything. Zero. Done.

That's right. NO Model As in 1931 after Ford sent a shipment in 1930 with no orders. The depression was so bad here that car sales virtually stopped in September, 1929. It is thought that to keep up production in the US and Canada, he sent cars that were not ordered. The dealers revolted and he didn't do it again, hence no cars in 1931. It was possible to buy a brand new Model A here as late as 1933 or 4.
In an effort to drum up sales, 3 cars were built here with fabric bodies, I believe. Even they didn't sell. I've never seen it but I understand one survives. Those 3 cars would be my nomination for the rearest Model A.

[jimvette59]

Then when was my late 31 Tudor deluxe built ?

[1931 flamingo]

The posters who said no cars are in AUSTRALIA.........................
Paul in CT

[Bob Johnson]

Travelers Wagon with only 10
Deluxe Drop Floor 120

Town Car Delivery 191
Deluxe Pickup 297
Special Delivery 864

Town Car 1198
Taxi 5381


http://www.modelahouse.com/tech/production.html


Bob Johnson

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

What about Edsel's Model-A Sportsman?

[Purdy Swoft]

The sportsman is one of a kind ; but not a real model A like the ones we have .

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

The sportsman is one of a kind ; but not a real model A like the ones we have .

You seem to make a valid point however Ford recognized this as the last produced Model-A, -and even MAFFI displayed it at the museum describing it as such. As such, I would say that it does kinda fit into the question that Bob asked, but maybe not?

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by 1931 flamingo

The posters who said no cars are in AUSTRALIA.........................
Paul in CT

Huh? No one said there are no cars in Australia. A couple of us said that none were sent here in 1931. That's a whole, very different thing.

[Dave Slater]

Total production of the Australian 1930 AND 1931 Roadster Utility was 87 units. This body style went on sale in May of 1930 and the last unit sold to a Ford dealer was in August of 1932. That equates to 3.22 units sold per month - hardly worth opening the factory at that rate.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Dave Slater

Total production of the Australian 1930 AND 1931 Roadster Utility was 87 units. This body style went on sale in May of 1930 and the last unit sold to a Ford dealer was in August of 1932. That equates to 3.22 units sold per month - hardly worth opening the factory at that rate.

Dave, what was the mindset behind the Ute, -or the Utility bodystyle? Was there an advantage for producing that vehicle, -or was it solely because of the styling?

[ronn]

. It shouldn't count.



cmon Franklin, all As count. dont wanna hurt their feelings..........


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by J Franklin

The stainless one was a rebodied advertisement. It shouldn't count.

Originally Posted by ronn

. It shouldn't count.

cmon Franklin, all As count. dont wanna hurt their feelings..........
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see your point, however it really was NOT "re-bodied" as it was stamped by Ford with their own dies for Allegany Steel, and the stainless body was the only body that was ever mounted onto the chassis' that were used? In some ways, it really was not any different than B/R or Murray manufacturing the 150 wagons or all the postal Model-As


...and the 2nd part of this was, didn't they make three of the Allegany Stainless Tudors? If so, that would mean there were two more produced than the Sportsman.

[Licensed to kill]

The LEAST number of model A models???.......I would say the crew cab 4X4 pickup. They didn't make any.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by Licensed to kill

The LEAST number of model A models???.......I would say the crew cab 4X4 pickup. They didn't make any.

Thnaks for that! Now someone will feel challenged to make one.

[Synchro909]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Dave, what was the mindset behind the Ute, -or the Utility bodystyle? Was there an advantage for producing that vehicle, -or was it solely because of the styling?

I think utes were made because the American style Pick Up was not sold here and there was a need to something to do that job. FWIW, I think utes are a far more practicle vehicle than the P/U. I have a P/U and I'm making a ute. It will be a very useful jigger.

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by CHuDWah

I'd guess Travelers Wagon - AFAIK, only about a dozen made.

Originally Posted by Bob Johnson

Travelers Wagon with only 10
Deluxe Drop Floor 120

Town Car Delivery 191
Deluxe Pickup 297
Special Delivery 864

Town Car 1198
Taxi 5381


http://www.modelahouse.com/tech/production.html


Bob Johnson

What do I win?

[Oldbluoval]

Lifetime subscription to EBay
Enjoy!

Not!

[CHuDWah]

Originally Posted by Oldbluoval

Lifetime subscription to EBay
Enjoy!

Not!

I dunno. I've only bought through eBay, never sold but I've had pretty good luck. It's definitely caveat emptor though.

[updraught]

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

I think utes were made because the American style Pick Up was not sold here and there was a need to something to do that job. FWIW, I think utes are a far more practicle vehicle than the P/U. I have a P/U and I'm making a ute. It will be a very useful jigger.

My guess is to meet local content rules. There was a strong history of local bodies being built at the time. The side panels are quite easy to make except for the beading, and the rest is wood and some brackets and hinges made by a black smith.

Most had a hard life and were left outside under a tree. They look good until you go to move them and then the body breaks in half at the wooden sub frame.

[Purdy Swoft]

Ford built a model A before the model T . I think the first model A's were built around 1903 or maybe before . These were real model A's but not like the ones made 28 to 31 . I doubt many of the first model A's were built and sold . Only a few probably remain .

[40 Deluxe]

Originally Posted by Purdy Swoft

Ford built a model A before the model T . I think the first model A's were built around 1903 or maybe before . These were real model A's but not like the ones made 28 to 31 . I doubt many of the first model A's were built and sold . Only a few probably remain .

But more than 10!

[Purdy Swoft]

Edsel had a one of a kind phaeton . I think that Edsel's custom phaeton may still exist . I think that Henry complemented Edsel's taste in styling because of this one .

[Dave Slater]

Brent. The utility was created as a practical low cost all round vehicle mainly for the farming sector. The early 1928 Utes had Model T rear guards until they used up all the remaining stock. They were built in three versions the straight sided, flare sided and the most practical unit was the well type ute. My 1930 ute was a very late manufactured unit sold to a dealer in late 1932.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Dave Slater

Brent. The utility was created as a practical low cost all round vehicle mainly for the farming sector. The early 1928 Utes had Model T rear guards until they used up all the remaining stock. They were built in three versions the straight sided, flare sided and the most practical unit was the well type ute. My 1930 ute was a very late manufactured unit sold to a dealer in late 1932.

Ok, but my question is more to the point of why did the Australian feel the need to redesign a 'low cost" vehicle? Why create the tooling for an integral body instead of using the bed and cab as-is?? Ford tried that technique here in the states as his most Deluxe version.

[Bob Bidonde]

So far, the answer is the 225A Drop Floor Panel Truck @ 121 produced, but I haven't seen any response by the one who is most knowledgeable on this subject, Pluick from Walla Walla.

[Bob Johnson]

It is not the 225A Drop Floor. It is the Travelers Wagon with 10 vehicles produced.


If you want proof go to the following web site and view the Ford production figures. These are the numbers that Pluck used in his book.


http://www.modelahouse.com/tech/production.html


Bob Johnson

[Licensed to kill]

Originally Posted by Bob Johnson

http://www.modelahouse.com/tech/production.html


Bob Johnson

Why am I not seeing Canadian numbers in this link other than Canadian exports to Australia and New Zealand?.

[CarlG]

It may not be the "least produced", but at only 85 or so, the AA 280A Ambulance ranks right up there. My first vehicle of any kind was such a vehicle. I was 14 when I bought it for $45. Wish I had known then what I know now!

[Dave Slater]

Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Ok, but my question is more to the point of why did the Australian feel the need to redesign a 'low cost" vehicle? Why create the tooling for an integral body instead of using the bed and cab as-is?? Ford tried that technique here in the states as his most Deluxe version.

Ford Australia didn't have to redesign any body work to produce the Utes as such. The sides were simply a flat sheet of steel with a belt mouldings stamped along the top. The tailgate was the same simple pressing. The cowl and doors were roadster/tourer parts and the subframe was all timber. The top irons did not fold down and in fact were left over Model T irons that were modified to suit.

[WTSHNN]

Since AA's were brought up the below website breaks it down.

Lowest Production Ford AA was the Funeral Service, only 17 were made. Second is the Deluxe Police Patrol with 45 rolling off the line.

http://aafords.com/aa-body-types/

-Tim

[Bob Johnson]

Canadian production would be listed under Walkerville.

[Bick in New Zealand]

Originally Posted by Licensed to kill

The LEAST number of model A models???.......I would say the crew cab 4X4 pickup. They didn't make any.

Are you sure.......

[Randy in ca]

Originally Posted by Licensed to kill

The LEAST number of model A models???.......I would say the crew cab 4X4 pickup. They didn't make any.

Originally Posted by Synchro909

Thnaks for that! Now someone will feel challenged to make one.

-
Crew cab has been done, only not a 4X4!!

-

[Synchro909]

I recon this has to be the winner for least produced.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Ford-M...1:pf:0&vxp=mtr

It was years ahead of its time!

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

I recon this has to be the winner for least produced.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Ford-M...1:pf:0&vxp=mtr

It was years ahead of its time!

Didn't Charlie Yapp build a VW body onto a Model-A frame? If so, that makes two, ...which seemingly would disqualify it from some of the other one-off cars mentioned above.

[Jeff/Illinois]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

I recon this has to be the winner for least produced.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1973-Ford-M...1:pf:0&vxp=mtr

It was years ahead of its time!

I didn't know turds came in baby blue, I thought they were all brown

[Brad in Germany]

Here is another one.....that makes three of them:



Brad in Maryland

[Bob Bidonde]

To those who hijacked my post, thanks for making it useless!