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Old 10-21-2018, 08:15 AM   #21
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Ok, so you want to buy a vehicle far away and you decide to have it appraised by someone local to it. The problem is the person you select to do the appraisal may know less about the vehicle than you do! Sure any appraiser can judge a cars interior and exterior condition but do they really know the particulars of that vehicle? I would like it if appraisers would list their "make" and "period" familiarity so a consumer could make an educated choice.
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Old 11-27-2018, 05:34 PM   #22
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I did end up buying the car. It is on its way to Maine from Northern Calif. It is a true barn find late 1931 A400. It is in fairly rough condition however there is only surface rust on original paint. Fenders were rough also, but PO had purchased four replacement fender in excellent condition. It seems quite complete with all four shocks, sidebowl carb. all interior garnishings, complete top irons with rear window, ash trays, even original key. Top and interior fabric are non usable. I most likely over paid, but the level of originality got me excited. Will post photos when it arrives.
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Old 11-27-2018, 07:43 PM   #23
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Paying a little too much is better than letting the bank use your money and not paying you any interest. A little extra up front is nothing once the cost of restoring a car is figured in, and the enjoyment the car gives is more than money in the bank.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:19 AM   #24
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Congratulations on your purchase Sir!

It sounds like a really cool project. Looking forward to the pictures.

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Old 11-28-2018, 07:47 AM   #25
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Paying a little too much is better than letting the bank use your money and not paying you any interest. A little extra up front is nothing once the cost of restoring a car is figured in, and the enjoyment the car gives is more than money in the bank.
Well written.

No matter what you purchase, someone will tell you that you paid to much.

Model As are to be enjoyed. So enjoy your new car.

How about some pictures?
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:48 AM   #26
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congrats- want to see them pictures!
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:58 PM   #27
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I bought my pickup on eBay, only having seen pictures. My dealings with the seller were somewhat less than perfect, but after 8 years now, I'm still pleased with my purchase. Not sure if a physical inspection would have changed my mind a bit. I do consider myself very fortunate, especially reading some of the horror stories since then.
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Old 11-28-2018, 10:19 PM   #28
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Bought Elvira from online pictures. Seller was totally honest, and the car was better than I expected. There are some good guys out there, and you can usually detect it when talking to them on the phone and emails. Just remember one thing: Most cars look better in photos than in real life. I got lucky I guess, because Elvira looked even better in person than in the photos. For the $$, she was a bargain.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:43 AM   #29
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I personally think that for the car you bought all the normal rules about used old cars are out the window.It's not a run of the mill roadster,coupe,or tudor,it is a rare car.You are going to have to pay a lot of money for a rough one.It's not like there is another rough one around the corner for sale,if you ponied up the money to buy it then that means someone else would too.There's not much room to chisel on a seller for a rare car.He can always find another buyer easier than you will find another one of those cars.You seem to know it needs a complete restoration,but it has it's rare parts,so whatever price you paid must have been OK with you,and you are the only one that has to be happy with it.
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Old 11-29-2018, 10:50 AM   #30
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Road trip!
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Old 11-29-2018, 08:11 PM   #31
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Most people are honest, especially old car folks, but when it comes to a restoration, the term restored has many meanings to different people. Some people honestly think the car they cobbled together is restored and they are very proud of it. Some people expect a restoration to be a fine point job. Just because someone tells you how great the car is does not mean that they are on the same value system that you expect. When I am looking to buy a car, I feel that a trip to look at it is part of the cost. I have seen few scammers in the old car business, only different opinions on what a restoration requires.
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:47 AM   #32
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When I finally decided to buy a Model A, I emailed all the Model A clubs in out state and asked the presidents to forward it along to their members.
I described the model I wanted, condition of body and mechanical condition. I received four replies from various club members and went to look at the one I bought. I was very fortunate as the owner represented it correctly and the car was exactly what I wanted.
I would recommend keeping your powder dry until you can personally look at the car or a member from your club can have a look at it. I realize I was lucky and thank my lucky stars that the purchase went well. The only thing I might suggest is to step up and pay a little more for a good car than spend less and pay more for the restoration.
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Old 12-04-2018, 08:46 AM   #33
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The car arrived from the west coast yesterday. Everything was as I had expected happy for the experience. Tried to post a photo but for some reason it will not allow
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Old 12-04-2018, 11:03 AM   #34
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The car arrived from the west coast yesterday. Everything was as I had expected happy for the experience. Tried to post a photo but for some reason it will not allow
The usual problem when posting photos is that they are too large. As a temporary fix email me a copy and I will post it for you. I sent you my email in a PM. Post the hardware and software you are using and the problem you are having and someone should be able to help. Remember there is a "Test Forum" to use for practice.

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Old 12-05-2018, 03:33 PM   #35
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HalcyonDays, is the A400 discussed above the same one recently listed in classifieds on the MAFCA website?
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Old 12-06-2018, 12:00 PM   #36
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Old 12-06-2018, 06:35 PM   #37
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I dont see it i dont buy it.
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Old 12-06-2018, 08:12 PM   #38
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There is no perfect answer. After 2 bad experiences,1 so bad the transport guy called me and asked me if I really wanted the car,I no longer buy ANY car I haven't seen and touched in person.



Then again,I am retired,have a diesel pu and 5 ton equipment trailer,and like road trips,so it's not like going in person is some sort of burden.


I even got screwed one time anyway. The car,a 54 Merc was in northwestern PA,and I talked with the guy on the phone,verified the car was still for sale,and told him I would be leaving NC in the morning to come get it and asked him to hold it for me until I could get there,


Got off to a late start so I called him and told him I was leaving right then and wouldn't get there until the next day,and then called him from my motel room north of DC that night to tell him I would see him in the morning. He told me he would be waiting.


Got to his house about 10 the next morning,and the 54 Merc was gone and nobody would answer the door. Which was probably a good thing because it kept me from getting arrested. The SOB finally answered the phone and told me he had sold it to someone else early that morning.


I didn't lose any money down,but I was out over 200 bucks for expenses and 2 days lost out of my life. Given a chance,I would still hurt him today if I could get my hands on him.
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Old 12-07-2018, 06:38 AM   #39
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cant say that I blame you Laz


dirty deal!
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Old 12-07-2018, 07:41 AM   #40
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My personal approach=pray!
I had a deal on a 1929 A in Missouri after the funds were wired the seller told me his mechanic had just pulled the gas tank and was having it tanked because of rust.....Seller immediately returned my funds without a problem.
Then I located a !930 Tudor in Virginia, negotiated a fair price, had it open shipped to Arizona and was extremely blessed with the car, the shipper and the honest seller. Car arrived in great shape, no shipping damage and in better overall condition than I was expecting.
Guess that "pray'n" worked. Chap
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