transmission housing cracked

[Roxo]

My transmission housing is cracked from the back around and down the passenger side and across the fill spout.
What is a good price for a good housing?

I found this entire trnsmission on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-Ford...QAAOSwyElcjECU

Is this a good price?

[ryanheacox]

Assuming it's in the shape it's advertised as it sure seems like a good deal to me. The cost to completely replace the internals of a good case is around $900. The sliding gears do look like they have very little wear and the cluster looks ok from the little you can see of it. I'd go for it.

[Joe K]

I was thinking more around $400 for the internals complete - but it's been a few years since I've done one this way.

As to case alone? $20 can buy you a bare case. $50 or $100 will buy you the entire worn out transmission.

I say worn out. Sometimes its better to simply examine the gears, take the best, and "minimize" replacement of gears so as not to mesh new with old too much.

The best tranny I have is made up of the best parts of three others. Even the "new" tranny internals complete is not as quiet.

Joe K

[jw hash]

that is a $50 transmission with a paint job. they didn't even replace the bearings. housings are around $35 plus postage. if your trans is in good shape but the cracked housing, I would get a housing put new bearings in it and use yours. I have a nice housing with a new paint job for $55 shipping included.

[Roxo]

Originally Posted by ryanheacox

Assuming it's in the shape it's advertised as it sure seems like a good deal to me. The cost to completely replace the internals of a good case is around $900. The sliding gears do look like they have very little wear and the cluster looks ok from the little you can see of it. I'd go for it.

True parts are not cheap. Snyders wants almost $1,100 with core for a rebuilt tranny. My core is cracked so I'm sure they would not except it. Plus thats big money, I should be able to do it much cheaper, my gears are all in good shape as far as I know. Thanks for your opinion Ryan. I might just go for it before its gone.

[Joe K]

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Here is an Ebay case with a few extra parts. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...frcectupt=true

Nice in that it has the frequently broken front bearing retainer and throwout bearing.

Joe K

[Roxo]

Originally Posted by jw hash

that is a $50 transmission with a paint job. they didn't even replace the bearings. housings are around $35 plus postage. if your trans is in good shape but the cracked housing, I would get a housing put new bearings in it and use yours. I have a nice housing with a new paint job for $55 shipping included.

That sounds like a good Price to me JW.
Your right his ebay add just mentions new gaskets, nothing about the bearings. Contact me with private message and we can work out the details.

[whirnot]

Give Bert's a call, I know he has dozens of transmissions. This is the reason I paid an extra hundred dollars and kept my core when installing a Mitchell.

[Roxo]

Originally Posted by whirnot

Give Bert's a call, I know he has dozens of transmissions. This is the reason I paid an extra hundred dollars and kept my core when installing a Mitchell.

I just checked out their Mitchell trans. How do like like it? Is it worth the money?

[rocket1]

I would ask around for a good case,I'm sure Barners have one to sell,shipping will cost you quite a bit,I would think $25.00 to $35.00 for the case.I have one.

[Roxo]

Well I'm in the market for a good solid case. I had my transmission open when I replaced the clutch and the gears looked good. So if you have one and willing to part with it I would be interested in buying it.

[Tom Endy]

More than likely there is some damage to some of the gears inside your transmission. A cracked case is usually caused by a gear tooth broken off and getting between the case and rotating hardware.


The attached photo shows such a failure.


Tom Endy

[tinkirk]

Originally Posted by Roxo

My transmission housing is cracked from the back around and down the passenger side and across the fill spout.
What is a good price for a good housing?

I found this entire trnsmission on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-Ford...QAAOSwyElcjECU

Is this a good price?

call this guy he will have what you need and i'm sure the price will be right
213-720-5939 Bruce
if no answer leave him a message with what you are looking for he will call you back

Terry

[Tom Endy]

It has been said that a Model A transmission is so simple that a child can put it together. Attached is documented proof.


Tom Endy

[F.M.]

Originally Posted by Joe K

Here is an Ebay case with a few extra parts. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-A-For...frcectupt=true

Nice in that it has the frequently broken front bearing retainer and throwout bearing.

Joe K

If it makes any difference to some one, The case being shown is a late 1928 one..

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by Tom Endy

It has been said that a Model A transmission is so simple that a child can put it together. Attached is documented proof.


Tom Endy

Well I wasn't quite that young on my first Model A Transmission. I was 16 or 17. That's been over 60 years ago, and I don't remember what all I did to it, but I do remember buying all the parts at NAPA.

[ronn]

Ive sold complete transmissions on CL for 75. in good condition.


you should be able to buy one on there inexpensively, rather then getting into shipping.

[Roxo]

Originally Posted by ronn

Ive sold complete transmissions on CL for 75. in good condition.


you should be able to buy one on there inexpensively, rather then getting into shipping.

What is CL?

[30 Closed Cab PU]

Originally Posted by Roxo

What is CL?

Craig's List

[Joe K]

Transmissions are EVERYWHERE. I even picked up one at my transfer station.

Spring is "clean out" time. Here in Cow Hampshire the old farms change hands over the year and the new upscale owners don't like "clutter." So they clean out their old barns and bring the stuff to disposal seemingly in the Spring.

On the ground with the rest of the metal a complete Model A transmission - even still had the shift ball on top of the shift lever. ZOOM into my truck it goes.

At home who can resist the temptation? About 20 minutes later I find out why the transmission had been set aside: 2nd gear idler is shot - cluster gear looked good. This baby "whined" in 2nd gear. So it got set aside.

The rest of the tranny looked VERY good. unusual to see a failure of 2nd gear only. I speculated to a manufacturing defect.

This tranny had the bearings replaced, a replacement used 2nd gear, and today its the BEST sounding tranny I have. A later tranny with full internal replacement I don't like nearly as well.

Sorry. This is a "gloat" post.

Edit: check your industrial scrapyard. Before outlawed by OSHA "cone-head" lathes and flat belt machine tools were were migrating from overhead shaft drives to individual electric motor drives. A very common adaptation done was to use a Model A Transmission and take advantage of the three speeds to provide the speed variation that the matching cone pulleys USED to do.

Now these tools are migrating to the scrap yards as they present a safety risk to the users/owners. When scrapped, the appended motor/gearbox replacement usually goes with it.

A craigslist example down in Harrisburg, PA This might be an AA truck transmission.



Joe K