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Old 05-18-2021, 03:04 PM   #1
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Default S-10 in my 1953 f-100

swap is complete, 2300 rpms at 50 mph , drop it in OD rpms go down to 1600, so far ok,
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:20 PM   #2
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looks like no interest in this swap , I guess should post on the Hamb, or check it out on late v8 forum section ,this swap will work on any f-100 from 53/56
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:26 PM   #3
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Was this the whole thread?



S-10 in my 1953 f-100
Sounds like you bought a chebby and put it in the bed of your Ford?
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:50 PM   #4
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looks like no interest in this swap , I guess should post on the Hamb, or check it out on late v8 forum section ,this swap will work on any f-100 from 53/56
"THIS SWAP" will only work on '53 F-100, as the others aren't FLATHEADS. Otherwise, it's a "similar" or "related" swap. I'm not sure what you want. Several others, including myself, have left comments in your OTHER thread in the "1954/later" section. With more than one inquiry/request for pictures, you have returned with NONE!

Myself, as well as a few others on this '32-'53 Forum are really into T5s, but you give no real details or pics to get excited about in your brief, low-key post. Heck, you want to see a "T5" thread that I posted about four years back, or so? Click the link below. As you'll see, there IS "T5" interest HERE....if you post something that could be called "interesting"! Click the link BELOW! DD


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Old 05-25-2021, 04:50 PM   #5
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Yes , but borg warner is native to both ford and gm , so Im off the hook on that one
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Old 05-25-2021, 04:54 PM   #6
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I read your thread it is very good no question I do have pictures but have A hard time posting , just trying to share my info , no disrespect to anyone
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Old 05-25-2021, 05:26 PM   #7
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Anytime you need photos posted, just let me know, I can post them for you (as will/can V8COOPMAN). I lot of folks have a difficult time getting the hang of posting here on the Barn. It is not difficult, but does take a bit of getting accustom to. So, email me any photos you want posted: [email protected]

I also enjoy messing with the T5s.
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Was it the whole drive train or just the T5 transmission. I think this is what tilted folks. Not enough information to understand just exactly what was done.
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Old 05-26-2021, 05:12 PM   #9
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Old 05-26-2021, 07:38 PM   #10
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Some of us just didn't know what you were talking about. S-10 in your 53???
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:52 PM   #11
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Old 05-26-2021, 10:58 PM   #12
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I had the same question from the title. A T5 swap or transmission swaps has been around for a while.

I was asked a ton of times, in the past, if I was going to do a s10 frame swap on my 38. No thanks.
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Old 05-27-2021, 04:38 AM   #13
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Thank you to JSeery, for posting the pictures of my S-10 transmission swap in my 53F-100, This was my second attempt at this swap, I also installed power steering in the truck as well as disc brakes , All else is stock , My goal was just to have A safe and driver friendly truck , Sorry to all for not being more specific ,and better detailed in my previous, post ,regarding this project
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Old 05-27-2021, 05:03 AM   #14
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The f100s are a natural for a swap like this. Open driveline, no X member, plenty of room underneath.
While T5s are a popular swap in other fords, it takes a lot more to make it happen. And it can't be done in a 32 for example without heavily modifying the K member.
Glad you have your truck driving how you like it.
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Old 05-27-2021, 05:25 AM   #15
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So far all good ,the rear is 392.1 Im looking to change to A 354.1, first gear is A little low ,but the truck is driving nice, this swap was A little difficult ,do to the truck bell housing ,being also the rear engine mount, and being deeper then the car bell, no adapter plates were available, also I had to fab A clutch pivot bracket to mount on the transmission . see pics.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:19 AM   #16
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Here is the truck (nice!). You can change the gears out if you want better ratios.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:37 AM   #17
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Thank you again Jerry, working out possible gear set change out on the dana 44, rear .
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The S10 has a low first gear. the T5 is better with some of the other ratios available. I wouldn't change the rear end gears because first is low. you need to judge how it drives at 55-60mph. Highway cruising speeds. you also need to make a judgement on how it will drive if loaded or maybe towing. It is a truck. If it needs truck gears the 3.9s are fine if it is just a pleasure vehicle and you want it to drive like a car then yes, the taller gears might suit it.
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That'll work on the rear axle, I was saying you can also change out the transmission gears to some better ratios. But a lot depends on how you use your truck. If you use it to haul any heavy loads the lower 1st gear can be an advantage. That's what the the S10 gears are, truck gears.
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Thank you again Jerry, working out possible gear set change out on the dana 44, rear .
That's a really nice looking truck!





While changing that REAR gear to something like a 3.54 will help with your 1st GEAR situation just a tiny LITTLE bit, it's still not going to mask the overall situation caused by that 3.50 1st GEAR. By keeping that 3.50 1st gear and changing the rear to 3.54, your OVERALL 1st GEAR ratio drops from an "extreme Granny-like" 13.72 down to a STILL very-Granny-like 12.39.

I've gotta admit that it is extremely hard to explain the significance of selecting gear ratios (or the differences between a good selection and a "not-so-good" selection) without being able to relate it to a "seat of the pants", actual driving experience. I will say that JSeery and myself have attempted (many times) to explain the virtues of the "Close Ratio" (2.95 1st gear) gear sets in the T5 transmissions, when used in a street-driven vehicle.

I realize that it is YOUR truck, and you certainly have EVERY right to equip it as you choose......especially without me trying to convince you OTHERWISE. But I just hate to think about you going to all of the work and expense of "R & R"-ing that rear axle .....and then realizing the disappointment you'll probably feel the first time you back it out of the garage for a trip around the block.

A "MORE-Normal" 1st GEAR/Rear Axle ratio combination would be something like a 2.82 1st GEAR/3.78 Rear Axle combination (that 3.78 rear is pretty close to your current 3.92). For a "seat of the pants" feel for that combination, that is the exact combination that came in the MAJORITY of 1935 through 1948 Ford passenger cars. The speed that one normally attains when winding-out 1st GEAR in one of those cars just feels "RIGHT"! And the OVERALL 1st GEAR ratio with that combination is 10.66. My point here is that by going with a transmission gear set swap to the 2.95 "close-ratio" set and keeping your 3.92 Rear End, your overall 1st gear ratio goes down to a more-tolerable 11.56, which is much closer to "optimum" than the 12.39 that you're going to end-up with by only changing the rear to a 3.54. Not only that....one must remember that phrase "close-ratio" when considering the 2.95 gear set. That means that the numerical ratios between 1st and 4th gears are much more evenly spaced, so as to keep the revs in a tighter torque band when accelerating thru the gears, than the huge ratio difference between ratios in that 3.50 gear set. Just for your information, I BELIEVE that your optimum combination would be the close-ratio (2.95 1st Gear) gear set in conjunction with a 3.54 rear gear.....which results in an overall 1st gear ratio of 10.44. You would be amazed. But I still believe that the transmission gear set change would be much more rewarding (and easier to accomplish) than your planned rear gear change. I promise that THIS is the LAST time I will suggest any of this to you in the future. I hope you'll put some serious thought into it. T5s are really cool when you realize their FULL potential. And you should remember that the OVERDRIVE ratio in one of these close ratio gear sets is .63 . DD








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