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38 Ford Guy · 12-27-2015, 09:24 PM

Anyone know if 39 Mercury Frames are same as 39 Ford frames?

Marvin/TN · 12-27-2015, 09:36 PM

Don't know about the 39 Frames but I know the 46,47,48 are not the same. They are about 6 or 7 inches longer. The difference is in the cowl area

funrunr · 12-27-2015, 09:42 PM

I believe the Mercury is wider and longer wheel base

nospartsman · 12-27-2015, 09:44 PM

1939 Ford and 1939 Mercury are radically different dimensionally. 1939 and 1940 Mercury are the same.

Karl Wolf · 12-27-2015, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvin/TN

Don't know about the 39 Frames but I know the 46,47,48 are not the same. They are about 6 or 7 inches longer. The difference is in the cowl area

Speaking to the 1946-48 Ford-Merc, the frames are the same, they move the front cross member 4" forward, lengthen the steering shaft and sheet metal. And probably somethings that are not coming to mind right now.

I had a 1946 frame from a Merc and checked out the differences... I still have the steering shaft, and an adapter that moves the front wishbone location forward the 4".

Never seen a 1939, but I'ld take the bet that Henry would not have sprung for a whole run of different frames.

Karl

Marvin/TN · 12-28-2015, 12:33 AM

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Just a question, what does moving the front X member have to do with the steering column. The steering column bolts to a bracket just in front of the fire wall. I do believe the bodies are the same for Ford and Merc. The difference is from firewall forward and I
know for a fact the 46 column will not fit a Merc. Been there and tried that. Like I said, just a question. I have friends that are Merc guys and they tell me the frames are different from the firewall forward.

GEOFFNZ · 12-28-2015, 01:08 AM

From memory the steering box was also mounted further forward to coincide with the axle.Easy to get the starter off on RHD versions.Don't think the motor was further forward which made it easier to get the pan off.Had a special manifold on Right side with outlet further forward to clear steering box.(I think) Cheers.

moefuzz · 12-28-2015, 05:03 AM

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Marvin,

If we increase the wheelbase of a vehicle say 10",
Then the steering box needs to be moved same 10" otherwise you end up with a 10" longer pitman arm which would make for horrifically fast steering.
Which is never good in a panic stuation like sliding on ice.
Extremely quick steering would cause you to terribly over compensate
then things get really scarey.

12-27-2015, 09:24 PM	#1
38 Ford Guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Central MN Posts: 108	39 Mercury Frame Anyone know if 39 Mercury Frames are same as 39 Ford frames? __________________ "If you always do what you have always done then you will always get what you always got." Henry Ford

12-27-2015, 09:36 PM	#2
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: 39 Mercury Frame Don't know about the 39 Frames but I know the 46,47,48 are not the same. They are about 6 or 7 inches longer. The difference is in the cowl area

12-27-2015, 09:42 PM	#3
funrunr Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Belleville,MI Posts: 1,427	Re: 39 Mercury Frame I believe the Mercury is wider and longer wheel base __________________ Thank God this is only a hobby!

12-27-2015, 09:44 PM	#4
nospartsman BANNED Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 409	Re: 39 Mercury Frame 1939 Ford and 1939 Mercury are radically different dimensionally. 1939 and 1940 Mercury are the same.

12-28-2015, 12:33 AM	#6
Marvin/TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chattanooga, TN area Posts: 832	Re: 39 Mercury Frame Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Just a question, what does moving the front X member have to do with the steering column. The steering column bolts to a bracket just in front of the fire wall. I do believe the bodies are the same for Ford and Merc. The difference is from firewall forward and I know for a fact the 46 column will not fit a Merc. Been there and tried that. Like I said, just a question. I have friends that are Merc guys and they tell me the frames are different from the firewall forward.

12-28-2015, 01:08 AM	#7
GEOFFNZ Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oxford New Zealand Posts: 177	Re: 39 Mercury Frame From memory the steering box was also mounted further forward to coincide with the axle.Easy to get the starter off on RHD versions.Don't think the motor was further forward which made it easier to get the pan off.Had a special manifold on Right side with outlet further forward to clear steering box.(I think) Cheers.

12-28-2015, 05:03 AM	#8
moefuzz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Under A Clean V8 Posts: 228	Re: 39 Mercury Frame . Marvin, If we increase the wheelbase of a vehicle say 10", Then the steering box needs to be moved same 10" otherwise you end up with a 10" longer pitman arm which would make for horrifically fast steering. Which is never good in a panic stuation like sliding on ice. Extremely quick steering would cause you to terribly over compensate then things get really scarey.