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Scott F. · 10-28-2018, 08:26 PM

Has anyone ever seen a Kong head for the A/B engines? How rare are they? How are they as far as performance?
Thanks,
Scott

Charlie Stephens · 10-28-2018, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott F.

Has anyone ever seen a Kong head for the A/B engines? How rare are they? How are they as far as performance?
Thanks,
Scott

I have never seen one and still haven't. How about a picture? On a serious note Kong had a good reputation with the V8 guys, I didn't even know he made heads for the 4 cylinders. I have been into Model A for the last 60 years in the Southern California area and would have probably seen one if very many were made.

Charlie Stephens

Scott F. · 10-28-2018, 10:08 PM

Picture I saw today is one a friend sent me. He just acquired it. It is unmachined. It certainly looks like an A head but I need to see it in person. I am not comfortable posting a pic because it’s not mine. I am interested in the value because I would love to have it but I fear that it’s way out of my league as far as price goes. ( that is if he ever decides to sell it). Thank you for the reply and if I get permission I will post some pics.
Thanks,
Scott

Scott F. · 10-28-2018, 10:10 PM

I guess technically it’s a B head as there was no water pump provision in the head.

Scott

Charlie Stephens · 10-28-2018, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott F.

I guess technically it’s a B head as there was no water pump provision in the head.

Scott

I am not sure what you are trying to say, B heads have a provision for a water pump? There is no provision for a water pump in the V8 heads after 1936. Any chance you are looking at a single V8 head?

Charlie Stephens

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 10-28-2018, 11:55 PM

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I owned and ran a Kong Jackson head on a speedster some when I ran with AARA. It is an air-cooled head. It really is not designed for a street application. There is no water pump provision as only the block retained water.

Jim Brierley · 10-29-2018, 10:29 AM

I knew Kong, but never saw or heard of a Model A head by him. He was most noted for his V8 ignitions but did make V8 heads in the 80's. They had the fins going 'the wrong way', vertically. Kong was our contact for our 'Winfield week-ends'.

Scott F. · 11-03-2018, 12:07 PM

Here’s a pic of the one I was talking about.

Dodge · 11-04-2018, 05:25 AM

Do you also have a picture of the “important” side?

Kahuna · 11-04-2018, 08:13 AM

That is for a V8

katy · 11-04-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Kahuna

That is for a V8

Also it looks like a flathead intake manifold beside it.

Scott F. · 11-04-2018, 09:57 AM

You are correct. A v8 intake next to it.
What v8 has a bolt pattern like that?

Scott F. · 11-04-2018, 09:58 AM

No photo of the backside.

Flathead · 11-04-2018, 05:25 PM

It looks like a V8 head at first glance but the bolt pattern is not for a V8, no way. I think it could be for an A or B. I see a hole for the distributor, the plugs would be centered between the valves with the last four head bolts right next to them. I don't know what he water pump deal would be, unless the head is super thick. Maybe a remote pump/no pump? Does it say Kong? I can't tell. If Jim Brierly hasn't seen one, it has to be super rare.

katy · 11-05-2018, 10:24 AM

Maybe a 60HP flathead?

Jim Brierley · 11-05-2018, 10:57 AM

That's an A or B bolt pattern.

10-28-2018, 08:26 PM	#1
Scott F. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100	Kong Head for Model A/B engine Has anyone ever seen a Kong head for the A/B engines? How rare are they? How are they as far as performance? Thanks, Scott

10-28-2018, 10:08 PM	#3
Scott F. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine Picture I saw today is one a friend sent me. He just acquired it. It is unmachined. It certainly looks like an A head but I need to see it in person. I am not comfortable posting a pic because it’s not mine. I am interested in the value because I would love to have it but I fear that it’s way out of my league as far as price goes. ( that is if he ever decides to sell it). Thank you for the reply and if I get permission I will post some pics. Thanks, Scott

10-28-2018, 10:10 PM	#4
Scott F. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine I guess technically it’s a B head as there was no water pump provision in the head. Scott

10-28-2018, 11:55 PM	#6
BRENT in 10-uh-C Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Eastern Tennessee Posts: 11,508	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I owned and ran a Kong Jackson head on a speedster some when I ran with AARA. It is an air-cooled head. It really is not designed for a street application. There is no water pump provision as only the block retained water. __________________ . BRENT in 10-uh-C . www.model-a-ford.com ...(...Finally Updated!! ) .

10-29-2018, 10:29 AM	#7
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,085	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine I knew Kong, but never saw or heard of a Model A head by him. He was most noted for his V8 ignitions but did make V8 heads in the 80's. They had the fins going 'the wrong way', vertically. Kong was our contact for our 'Winfield week-ends'.

11-04-2018, 05:25 AM	#9
Dodge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sonoma, CA. Posts: 1,496	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine Do you also have a picture of the “important” side?

11-04-2018, 08:13 AM	#10
Kahuna Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NorCal Posts: 2,617	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine That is for a V8

11-04-2018, 09:57 AM	#12
Scott F. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine You are correct. A v8 intake next to it. What v8 has a bolt pattern like that?

11-04-2018, 09:58 AM	#13
Scott F. Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 100	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine No photo of the backside.

11-04-2018, 05:25 PM	#14
Flathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 1,497	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine It looks like a V8 head at first glance but the bolt pattern is not for a V8, no way. I think it could be for an A or B. I see a hole for the distributor, the plugs would be centered between the valves with the last four head bolts right next to them. I don't know what he water pump deal would be, unless the head is super thick. Maybe a remote pump/no pump? Does it say Kong? I can't tell. If Jim Brierly hasn't seen one, it has to be super rare.

11-05-2018, 10:24 AM	#15
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,042	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine Maybe a 60HP flathead? __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

11-05-2018, 10:57 AM	#16
Jim Brierley Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 4,085	Re: Kong Head for Model A/B engine That's an A or B bolt pattern.