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Old 01-18-2019, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default Matching photos, I think.....

I found the first one of these on some old New Deal photographs. The other just popped up on an 'old car group' Facebook site. They must have been taken at the same time--- 1) broken window 2) belt on running board 3) missing rear view mirror 4) undersized wheels............
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:21 PM   #2
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Same little girl in the front seat too
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:02 PM   #3
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Anyone else notice that it is a Taxi Cab fordor sedan. Probably purchased much used after taxi life finished.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:35 PM   #4
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Tudor, yup I think you hit right on the nose.
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Old 01-19-2019, 12:40 AM   #5
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Missing the radiator apron
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The man in the first photo is wearing a cap and the man in the second photo is wearing a western hat. Looks like the same man.

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Old 01-19-2019, 02:07 AM   #7
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How can we tell it's a Taxi Cab fordor sedan?
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Old 01-19-2019, 05:34 AM   #8
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Definately the same car. Apart from the things already mentioned, the same scratch on the side of the fuel tank and mark on the door are present in both photos.
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Old 01-19-2019, 06:29 AM   #9
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Yup the same women in the front seat.

First pic has a box in the rear seat, second has a little boy sitting in the same position.

I dont think the man is the same guy.
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Old 01-19-2019, 08:31 AM   #10
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The taxi lacks the "A" Pillar protruding from the cowl, but the sedan in the vinatage photo has the classic 1928-29 "A" Pillar.
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Yes it is the same car in both pics.

The Taxi was the only Fordor body to have the so called "coupe pillar". As well as no visor and the unique roof overhang and the larger rear windows. Not visible in these pics but another exterior sign would be the third hinge on the rear door.

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Old 01-19-2019, 10:36 AM   #12
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The Western hat was in the box :-))
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:17 AM   #13
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Looking at these photos I wish they could talk to us. The cars history, the people, there hopes and dreams. My guess as to whats in the box is a pie or "box luncheon"
Sounds sentimental, but the pictures really do hearken back to A DIFFERENT TIME in our history.
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Gerry Allen - talking about a 'different time' in our past, this pic I found perhaps shows that better than any I've seen..... Thanks all for the comments above.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:13 PM   #15
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If the third hinge is at the belt line you can see it on the second pic, I have tried but cant tell if the guy in the first pic has cuffs on his trousers like the guy in the second pic. I think the pic was taken at the same time but different men. That looks like a well worn/loved western style hat, I doubt he would've changed it.
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Here are the captions from the Library of Congress entry for the pictures.

"Mr. Bill Stagg putting container of food which was left from dinner at the community sing back into the car. Pie Town, New Mexico" June 1940

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"Eating dinner at the all day community sing, Pie Town, New Mexico"

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Two more pictures from the same day at Pie Town
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One more pic
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Two more pictures from the same day at Pie Town
I think that's our man right there fillin' his plate..
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The taxi lacks the "A" Pillar protruding from the cowl, but the sedan in the vinatage photo has the classic 1928-29 "A" Pillar.

I'm confused - are you saying the taxi does not have the protruding A pillar? For whatever reason (camera angle?), it doesn't show in the pic you posted. But another view of the same car shows it has the curved "coupe" pillar, as does the car in the OP pic.
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Looking at these photos I wish they could talk to us. The cars history, the people, there hopes and dreams.
Thats a right sentence! I want allways too to know the past time. My car is more than 90 years old and saw probably unbelieveable times. Just buyed it was treated well. 20 years after it would not longer loved. Followed children drived just for fun over fields and meadows. Then it was standing in a forgotten edge. ... .


Therfore I tryed to find the pre owners of my car. I'm sad, that this would not happend.
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Here it is - the Taxi is constructed like a Tudor, çoupe- pillar' cowl join, same style doors but it is a Fordor. There was no visor as the roof has a lip. Either made/assembled by Briggs or Budd, maybe the former. I would think many ex Taxis ended up being sold off as an older 4 dr Sedan. Cheers. Tom in NZ.
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I wonder what vintage wheels are on the car. I had one just like it on an "A" when I was a kid. It was a 16" with solid steel center and spooks on front side.
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Here are pictures of original Model A Taxi's, Body number 135-A.

An original, Briggs produced, Model A Taxi is a unique body style that shares similarities between different bodies.

A 135-A has the stepped transition from the cowl to the front door post similar to '28-'29 phaetons, coupes, roadsters, tudors and pickups. This is special because it is the only fordor appearing body that does now have the seamless flared style commonly found on Cabriolets, Fordors, Town Sedans, and Town Cars.

It is also unique in that it has three hinges on the rear door as opposed to the typical two hinges of a Fordor. This third hinge is in the body moulding.

Another unique feature of it is that the rear quarter window is wider than other fordors as the back part of the vehicle was longer so as to accommodate the divider and jump seat that was provided.

A little over 5,000 of these bodies were produced in 1928 and 1929.

The first modern Taxi picture and the interior picture I included are of a car formerly owned by Vernon Burks, here is a link to a website with more pictures of it. http://www.2040-cars.com/Ford/Model-...a-taxi-900730/

The b/w picture with the chevrons on the back door are of a prototype that was similar but had some minor difference from production.

If you don't own The Model A As Henry Built it you'll want to check it out as there is a lot of detail about these atypical A's.
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I wonder what vintage wheels are on the car. I had one just like it on an "A" when I was a kid. It was a 16" with solid steel center and spooks on front side.

The wheel was haunted??!!
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Here it is - the Taxi is constructed like a Tudor, çoupe- pillar' cowl join, same style doors but it is a Fordor. There was no visor as the roof has a lip. Either made/assembled by Briggs or Budd, maybe the former. I would think many ex Taxis ended up being sold off as an older 4 dr Sedan. Cheers. Tom in NZ.

Back in the 60's, I saw a taxi at a show. The owner's story was it had never been in taxi service but was purchased new by a guy who loved cigars. His wife couldn't stand the smoke so she rode in back behind the divider where she couldn't smell it. Undoubtedly BS but a good story nonetheless.
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More info and pix from the MAFFI museum:

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Two more pictures from the same day at Pie Town
Lovely young lady with healthy appetite being checked out by the older young man to her left.
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Back in the 60's, I saw a taxi at a show. The owner's story was it had never been in taxi service but was purchased new by a guy who loved cigars. His wife couldn't stand the smoke so she rode in back behind the divider where she couldn't smell it. Undoubtedly BS but a good story nonetheless.
I once saw a mag. article [ Restorer?] about this car & explained about the cigar smoking husband, so could be true!
For 1930-31 Ford was selling a modified interior Town Sedan as their Taxi model. Really, the Model A was a bit too small as a 4 passenger carrying vehicle [ as required by NY. & other big cities] ; it would have been a tight squeeze with 3 in back seat & 1 facing them in the off set reverse jump seat
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Maybe the gal in the front seat is with the guy reflected in the rear door glass.
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The first photo is a frame from a movie, note the sprocket notches. Strangely, the orientation of the image is 90 degrees to the path of the film.
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The first photo is a frame from a movie, note the sprocket notches. Strangely, the orientation of the image is 90 degrees to the path of the film.
That would indicate to me just the opposite. I think the picture was taken with a still camera. Film for those had sprocket holes along the side too and the camera could be help upright or on its side. (portrait or landscape)
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As some of you know, these pics were taken from 1935 to 1945 by United States Farm Security Administration and Office of War Information. They are a gold mine of images from that era. Just zoom in on the map to the county where you live, or were raised, and see how things used to be....

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That website is awesome! I can spend hours going through those pics. Sadly none from county, but there are some from neighboring ones.
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