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Old 01-11-2019, 06:23 PM   #21
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I pounded on the cluster shaft both ways. It id out. Very little rust on the ends.

Now I understand I can pound on a dead U joint and some of the main shaft will come out. So far no luck. Cluster is down. Too much fun for one day: Dissy work and tranny -pounding
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:08 AM   #22
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More pounding with no effect. What I'm doing: I have a bad Uni installed and am pounding on its downwind end. I think the entire main shaft should move forward., bearing included? Is this correct? (the gears are frozen as are the bearings)
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:30 PM   #23
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Still trying. I'm working thru the TO Bearing lube hole. Wife broke a nail so I'm at it alone now...




What size nail did she break?? A spike or a finish nail??
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:06 PM   #24
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you have the cluster gear down in the bottom of the case, so the front input shaft should pull out the front, then the main shaft where you are pounding on a dead u joint, should go forward, bearing and all, if you have the snap ring off the rear bearing
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:28 PM   #25
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Rear snap ring is off. Rust is the challenge gripping on the bearing sides.
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Old 01-17-2019, 03:46 PM   #26
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clem, i've hardly been able to sleep at night...hows the project going?
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Old 01-17-2019, 10:22 PM   #27
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Sorry Delayed for live tasks, snow, and nuc testing . Snowing and cold here, I need to fetch some big wood blocks outa the yard so I can set the tranny face down. Then I can pound better. Everything is rusty. I has been soaking a year now. I can't image a propane torch will free the bearings.
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Old 01-18-2019, 11:45 AM   #28
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i would leave the torch out of it for now. you could expand the bearing race=make it tighter, or you could expand the cast iron case too much, cool too quick=cracked case. maybe try to drive the main shaft towards the back, then once its out you can clean the race and the bore to try and drive to the front after its clean and oiled. good luck
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Old 01-19-2019, 10:14 AM   #29
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Are the thin washer-plates in each end of the main shaft holding movement of the mail shaft. My pounding seems to have a "Bounce" to it? It will be in the 20's tonite so the tranny goes outside to chill
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Old 01-19-2019, 11:25 AM   #30
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not sure what you mean by "thin washer plates at each end". there should be one thin washer at the back next to the bearing, oil baffle its called, it fits thru the case. first gear should slide to allow you to drive the shaft and bearing to the rear, or not be a problem if trying to drive the shaft to the front. there was another thin baffle on the front bearing, which you have out? and the only other thin things are the thrust washers which were, and still should be, on each end of the cluster gear now laying on the bottom. it is possible with all this violence that they have become loose, but should just fall out i would think and you would see the loose parts. you may get some bounce if you are set up on soft wood. got any hardwood 4x4's ? i would set the back of the case on two 4x4's and try to drive it out the back, then clean it up and drive out the front to remove it. has it moved at all?
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Yes, oil baffles sorry I used the wrong name. I have the tranny set up on short2x6" piles. I pound down on the installed U joint. NO motion either way. Set up is outside where we will get 20's wx Sunday
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:33 PM   #32
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YAHOOOOOO!! I left the tranny out all night. The red wolf moon musta loosened the main shaft bearings. Motion about a 1/4". I rinsed the open space and will flog-on again to night. Supposed to be 9 in the morning
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I feel silly out on the cold pounding on a tranny. The main shaft moved back into original position. Moved again further toward off. Will pound again in the morning. I'll get it
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Old 01-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #34
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keep going clem, you will win! an old friend used to yell while he was pounding "you inanimate object you" he thought it helped
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Old 01-22-2019, 12:25 PM   #35
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I got both bearings to move out/in 1/2 inch. I'm thrilled. I washed the binding surfaces with Kroil and lots of fine rust came out. 2cycles of in/oil. I also wondered if I pounding on the right place?? By using a bad uni I can put lots of pressure on the inside of the race. I don't have a tube shaped poundee to move the outside of the bearing. thus the ball bearing section is taking up some of the pounding force,
I'm off to take Momma to lunch and me a beer (When Momma asked what I was doing and would the tranny ever be useable I gave the wrong answer: no. I said this is a learning situation for me as I'm sure the gears themselves are rust-ruint… They came the "WHY???"
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Old 01-22-2019, 01:25 PM   #36
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It's kinda like why some people like Harley-Davidson motorcycles : If you have to ask the question, you won't understand the answer.
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:16 PM   #37
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BOTH bearings are loose!!! As the gears are bigger than the front bearing surface, I now need to remove the small snap ring on the main shaft. maybe I can cut it with a chisel.
as the gears are still frozen on the main shaft, I may be beaten yet
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Old 01-23-2019, 05:06 PM   #38
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what small snap ring? the main shaft will pull out the top all in one piece after the input shaft is out, and the cluster gear is down
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Old 01-26-2019, 12:37 PM   #39
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hows it going clem?
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Old 01-26-2019, 05:28 PM   #40
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Bearings are loose on the box, but not out of the box. I think I'm. stuck
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