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Synchro909 · 03-22-2018, 07:27 PM

I've had a new bearing sitting on the shelf for a while still wrapped in its plastic and in the original box. Today, I went to use it and it is seized solid. WTF!
It is Federal Mogul branded (their number 2065). I expected this bearing to be a good thing, not junk I throw straight into the rubbish bin.

There, vent over but has anybody else come across this and it there a fix?

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-22-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

I've had a new bearing sitting on the shelf for a while still wrapped in its plastic and in the original box. Today, I went to use it and it is seized solid. WTF!
It is Federal Mogul branded (their number 2065). I expected this bearing to be a good thing, not junk I throw straight into the rubbish bin.

There, vent over but has anybody else come across this and it there a fix?

Soak it in Kerosene, blow it out & re-pack it with a wheel bearing packer, using QUALITY, HIGH TEMP, DISC BRAKE GREASE. It'll last "forever"!!!
Bill W.

Synchro909 · 03-22-2018, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BILL WILLIAMSON

Soak it in Kerosene, blow it out & re-pack it with a wheel bearing packer, using QUALITY, HIGH TEMP, DISC BRAKE GREASE. It'll last "forever"!!!
Bill W.

It has never been used. It is still packed with the grease put in it by the manufacturer. Maybe I'm missing something but how will that help? I cannot get any rotational movement out of it whatsoever but I can get a tiny amount of lateral movement.

1955cj5 · 03-22-2018, 09:14 PM

I'd warm it up a little...either leave it in the sun or use a heat gun.

28 · 03-22-2018, 10:26 PM

I agree, trash can last resort, see if you can get it to warm up and get it moving. I’m thinking the old grease solidified and hardened up. Should be good once you get it moving and I’d repack with fresh grease.

Russ/40 · 03-23-2018, 12:35 AM

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Its the old grease. I have found the same in long shelf time parts. The old grease dries out after sitting for a long time.

hardtimes · 03-23-2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Synchro909

I've had a new bearing sitting on the shelf for a while still wrapped in its plastic and in the original box. Today, I went to use it and it is seized solid. WTF!
It is Federal Mogul branded (their number 2065). I expected this bearing to be a good thing, not junk I throw straight into the rubbish bin.

There, vent over but has anybody else come across this and it there a fix?

I have same new same brand in my bearing bag. Seems unusual that that should happen. Grease does deteriorate over time, but didn't think that that would happen to a nos part ?

Anyway, nothing to throw it away for. Just make a hole in it, where you can install a zerk fitting. Now before installing the zerk, heat it good and have the gunk cleaned out of it, install the zerk and pump full of your favorite flavor grease.

Synchro909 · 03-23-2018, 07:36 AM

The grease in the bearing is quite soft and like it's just out of the tin. I'm wondering if the crimp holding it all together is too tight. Might work on loosening it. Bloody FM crap!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-23-2018, 08:48 AM

"They" use cheep greese, made in TIMBUCKTOO, it's called, "PLANNED OBSCELESCENSE"---NLOL
Bill Suspicious

Bill Pursel · 03-23-2018, 10:33 AM

Havent hear that phrase in a while. Planned Obscelescence LOL

Russ/40 · 03-23-2018, 12:11 PM

I too think heat is the answer. Once it moves it'll loosen up.

Are you sure your trying to turn the correct part. Not to insult you I hope, but I have picked up a throw out and just didn't grab the correct places to turn it.

Synchro909 · 03-23-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ/40

I too think heat is the answer. Once it moves it'll loosen up.

Are you sure your trying to turn the correct part. Not to insult you I hope, but I have picked up a throw out and just didn't grab the correct places to turn it.

No insult taken but I do know how a throwout bearing is supposed to work. Breakfast first, then out to the workshop and try to release it.

Synchro909 · 03-23-2018, 04:57 PM

SUCCESS! It's free. As I suspected, the crimp was too tight. Eased it a little and things started moving. Used the lathe to give it some exercise and it now looks good.

Big hammer · 03-23-2018, 07:56 PM

Excellent :-)

Smooth_One · 03-23-2018, 08:09 PM

I’ve pulled some of the original grease out of my 28 and it’s hard as a rock so work on that thing and break it loose!

BILL WILLIAMSON · 03-24-2018, 08:19 AM

[QUOTE=Bill Pursel;1608654]Havent hear that phrase in a while. Planned Obscelescence
Saw a YUGO, at the curb junk pick up, a sign read: "TAKE ME OR CRUSH ME, PLEASE"
Bill W.

03-22-2018, 07:27 PM	#1
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Clutch throw out bearing I've had a new bearing sitting on the shelf for a while still wrapped in its plastic and in the original box. Today, I went to use it and it is seized solid. WTF! It is Federal Mogul branded (their number 2065). I expected this bearing to be a good thing, not junk I throw straight into the rubbish bin. There, vent over but has anybody else come across this and it there a fix? __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

03-22-2018, 09:14 PM	#4
1955cj5 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,578	Re: Clutch throw out bearing I'd warm it up a little...either leave it in the sun or use a heat gun. __________________ Early '29 CCPU that had a 4-speed, but not any more.......in the family since '62

03-22-2018, 10:26 PM	#5
28 Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 49	Re: Clutch throw out bearing I agree, trash can last resort, see if you can get it to warm up and get it moving. I’m thinking the old grease solidified and hardened up. Should be good once you get it moving and I’d repack with fresh grease.

03-23-2018, 12:35 AM	#6
Russ/40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee, California Posts: 3,505	Re: Clutch throw out bearing Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Its the old grease. I have found the same in long shelf time parts. The old grease dries out after sitting for a long time.

03-23-2018, 07:36 AM	#8
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Clutch throw out bearing The grease in the bearing is quite soft and like it's just out of the tin. I'm wondering if the crimp holding it all together is too tight. Might work on loosening it. Bloody FM crap! __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

03-23-2018, 08:48 AM	#9
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Clutch throw out bearing "They" use cheep greese, made in TIMBUCKTOO, it's called, "PLANNED OBSCELESCENSE"---NLOL Bill Suspicious __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

03-23-2018, 10:33 AM	#10
Bill Pursel Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Terre Haute, Indiana Posts: 90	Re: Clutch throw out bearing Havent hear that phrase in a while. Planned Obscelescence LOL

03-23-2018, 12:11 PM	#11
Russ/40 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Santee, California Posts: 3,505	Re: Clutch throw out bearing I too think heat is the answer. Once it moves it'll loosen up. Are you sure your trying to turn the correct part. Not to insult you I hope, but I have picked up a throw out and just didn't grab the correct places to turn it. Last edited by Russ/40; 03-23-2018 at 12:16 PM.

03-23-2018, 04:57 PM	#13
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Clutch throw out bearing SUCCESS! It's free. As I suspected, the crimp was too tight. Eased it a little and things started moving. Used the lathe to give it some exercise and it now looks good. __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

03-23-2018, 07:56 PM	#14
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Clutch throw out bearing Excellent :-) __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

03-23-2018, 08:09 PM	#15
Smooth_One Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: St Clair, Michigan Posts: 395	Re: Clutch throw out bearing I’ve pulled some of the original grease out of my 28 and it’s hard as a rock so work on that thing and break it loose! __________________ Isaiah B. 1928 all metal Tudor

03-24-2018, 08:19 AM	#16
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Clutch throw out bearing [QUOTE=Bill Pursel;1608654]Havent hear that phrase in a while. Planned Obscelescence Saw a YUGO, at the curb junk pick up, a sign read: "TAKE ME OR CRUSH ME, PLEASE" Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 03-26-2018 at 07:44 AM.