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Ryan · 05-05-2011, 03:41 PM

I was cruising the old boob tube last night and ran into an interesting piece on the Lincoln Motor Car Company. I figured you guys might be into it as well, so here it is:... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Ford Barn, click here.

Ol' Ron · 05-05-2011, 06:23 PM

Thanks Ryan, very interesting.

Milt/Las Vegas · 05-05-2011, 06:48 PM

It's a shame that didn't continue the model K,and as far as that goes the model L.That early V8 was a really good engine.

V12Bill · 05-06-2011, 03:40 PM

Henry Ford hated Henry Leland because when Ford was forced out of the Detriot Motor Co. (his second attempt at building a car) He blamed Leland for his demise. Henry was eager to jump on the Lincoln Motor co and bought it as a toy for Edsel to play with. It was more of a revenge gesture than a generous gift to his only child. Leland and his son Wilbur were supposed to stay on as consultants for a couple of years, but were ousted by Ford within a few months. Henry Ford was a force to be reckoned with and always got his own way. He bought out all of his original investors for pennies on the dollar.

raprice · 05-06-2011, 04:36 PM

I've always felt that the Lincoln Zephyr was one of the nicest looking cars ever built, thanks to Edsel.
When he had the Continental built for his own use, it was a home run. It's still one of the most beautiful cars ever built.
Rog

F-6Garagerat · 05-07-2011, 09:11 AM

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This is the building i work in, the way it looked long ago. Lincolns built here then Edsel's, it's still a Ford facility.

josh1331 · 05-10-2011, 03:26 PM

THIS IS GREAT , I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS A 1937 JUST LIKE THIS AND HAVE A QUESTION. HOW DOES ONE TURN ON VOICE FOR VIDEO? i CAN GET VIDEO BUT NO VOICE?
THANKS jOSH

Lebanon_Pa_Rich · 05-11-2011, 09:02 AM

Ive always loved the Lincoln continetal, and i hope Ford brings it back. They need a rear wheel drive platform now, and i think Lincoln knows that. I hope so anyway. Richard from Lebanon countys Amish community. http://Amishstorys.com

Vic Piano · 05-11-2011, 09:36 AM

That was a very interesting video however, as a television producer; it bothers me when people in historic film footage are misidentified in the voice over. Clearly that was not Edsel in the clip with the ’40 Zephyr; it was William Clay or Benson Ford. That being said, I’m proud and, fortunate, to own three Lincoln’s, a 1939 Zephyr Convertible Club Coupe, a 1949 Cosmopolitan Convertible and a 1966 Lincoln Continental Convertible. The ’66 was ordered by my dad in September of 1965.

Manuel · 05-11-2011, 05:35 PM

Full size Fords are still being made in Australia with rear drive.

Manuel in Oz

Ol' Ron · 05-11-2011, 08:55 PM

I worked for Bridgeport L&M back in 56. It was owned by Cl. Muse of Muse's raiders.
Nice guy.. He had the new continentals there had a chance to drive on. They came only with or with out AC. $9800 bucks and it was yours

Lawrie · 05-12-2011, 05:10 PM

Manual, they stopped making the fairlane a few years back,I have one of the last ones,a nice car with a great motoer and 6 speed auto,but not as quite and smooth ride as my old V12 Jaguar,BUT more reliable for sure,Its main job is the tow car for the flathead dragster.
Lawrie

roccaas · 05-19-2011, 05:32 AM

Mullally really wanted to pull the plug on Lincoln, but the worldwide presence of the brand's name is keeping it alive.

The question is whether the Waterfall Grill is enough to keep these new warmed over Fords alive.

I'd love to see a REAL Lincoln created. Something world class, limited edition, rear wheel drive, better ride than anything else on earth. They'd probably go back to Tata Motors and ask for the Aston or Jag foundation to build an American Super Sports Luxe.

Suicide Doors, MOMA recognition of the design, egg crate grill, NO Continental Kit. That would be something. Otherwise we get an up-price, up-content Ford that is crushed on resale value as the market realizes that it is nothing but a gussied up Fusion/Taurus/Edge/Expedition.

Vic Piano · 05-19-2011, 06:43 AM

This is an artist rendering of a Lincoln Town Car Concept, if only Ford would build it… I’d sure buy one!

moefuzz · 08-05-2011, 02:19 AM

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^^^^^^^ Mmmmm, suicide doors....

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Ray With · 08-05-2011, 07:42 AM

to damn round for me and by the time you hit the freeway with all the ricers it would blend in and you couldnt see it. Look at the 2011 Hyundai Genesis and the qabove is way to close to it.
I want classic production that stands out like a sore thumb. The 1972 M IV is a good example with a quarter mile long hood-lot of leg room-great driver and reasonably economical for the time. Now thats a car and with todays teck available it could be a little lighter and more economical under the hood. These round nose with the ass ends that look like they were hit in the ass buy a flat board has to go.

biggeorge · 08-07-2011, 07:29 AM

I was a mechanic for Lincoln mercury from 1978-88. They were the best made American cars at that time. i own a few marks 1 & 2 & 3's and loved them. Great cars

ventilo · 08-08-2011, 04:37 AM

I took this Lincoln picture last weekend at the "Schloß Dyck Classic Days" concours in Germany. It's obvious why the Model-A was nicknamed "baby Lincoln", isn't it?

Besides a bunch of other classic Fords two Quadricycle replica were on show as well.

Lawson Cox · 08-08-2011, 12:33 PM

Beautiful background shots. Nice Lincoln as well.

Henryat1140 · 08-07-2011, 07:13 AM

When I see something like this movie with Edsel, it makes me sad.

I've done a fair amount of reading on the history of the FoMoCo, and one of the tragedies is Ford's treatment of Edsel. He was really mean to him, sometimes bullying him in front of others. Ford's rationale was that Edsel was 'too soft', and needed toughening up. The truth was Edsel was the treasure of FoMoCo; had the the vision and imagination, while Henry was hidebound, mistrustful and rooted in old ways. He was much under the influence of Harry Bennett, the evil head of security, who was a real thug.

There was contention between Bennett and Edsel for Henry's attention.

Those of use who love the flathead era owe a lot to Edsel and his influence. Bob Gregorie, the visionary stylist was a close friend and protege of Edsel's. We have Gregorie to thank for the styling during the 30's.

We have Edsel to thank for hydraulic brakes, shift on the column, and other innovations.

By most contemporary reports Edsel was a gentle somewhat shy person.

After he died, the company floundered until Henry II took it over. One of his first actions was to fire Harry Bennett.

It's an interesting period, and much as we admire Henry for his part in history, he was far less human in his personal life.

05-05-2011, 03:41 PM	#1
Ryan Administrator Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 670	The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company I was cruising the old boob tube last night and ran into an interesting piece on the Lincoln Motor Car Company. I figured you guys might be into it as well, so here it is:... To read the rest of this blog entry from The Ford Barn, click here.

05-05-2011, 06:23 PM	#2
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Thanks Ryan, very interesting.

05-05-2011, 06:48 PM	#3
Milt/Las Vegas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: North Las Vegas,Nv/Rainier,Or Posts: 450	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company It's a shame that didn't continue the model K,and as far as that goes the model L.That early V8 was a really good engine. __________________ Milt/Las Vegas

05-06-2011, 03:40 PM	#4
V12Bill Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mt. Holly,NJ Posts: 1,822	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Henry Ford hated Henry Leland because when Ford was forced out of the Detriot Motor Co. (his second attempt at building a car) He blamed Leland for his demise. Henry was eager to jump on the Lincoln Motor co and bought it as a toy for Edsel to play with. It was more of a revenge gesture than a generous gift to his only child. Leland and his son Wilbur were supposed to stay on as consultants for a couple of years, but were ousted by Ford within a few months. Henry Ford was a force to be reckoned with and always got his own way. He bought out all of his original investors for pennies on the dollar.

05-06-2011, 04:36 PM	#5
raprice Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Elwood, NY Posts: 299	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company I've always felt that the Lincoln Zephyr was one of the nicest looking cars ever built, thanks to Edsel. When he had the Continental built for his own use, it was a home run. It's still one of the most beautiful cars ever built. Rog

05-07-2011, 09:11 AM	#6
F-6Garagerat Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: THE MOTOR CITY Posts: 173	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) This is the building i work in, the way it looked long ago. Lincolns built here then Edsel's, it's still a Ford facility. Last edited by F-6Garagerat; 05-07-2011 at 09:17 AM.

05-10-2011, 03:26 PM	#7
josh1331 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Charlestown,R.I. Posts: 465	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company THIS IS GREAT , I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAS A 1937 JUST LIKE THIS AND HAVE A QUESTION. HOW DOES ONE TURN ON VOICE FOR VIDEO? i CAN GET VIDEO BUT NO VOICE? THANKS jOSH

05-11-2011, 09:02 AM	#8
Lebanon_Pa_Rich Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Ive always loved the Lincoln continetal, and i hope Ford brings it back. They need a rear wheel drive platform now, and i think Lincoln knows that. I hope so anyway. Richard from Lebanon countys Amish community. http://Amishstorys.com

05-11-2011, 09:36 AM	#9
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company That was a very interesting video however, as a television producer; it bothers me when people in historic film footage are misidentified in the voice over. Clearly that was not Edsel in the clip with the ’40 Zephyr; it was William Clay or Benson Ford. That being said, I’m proud and, fortunate, to own three Lincoln’s, a 1939 Zephyr Convertible Club Coupe, a 1949 Cosmopolitan Convertible and a 1966 Lincoln Continental Convertible. The ’66 was ordered by my dad in September of 1965. __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

05-11-2011, 05:35 PM	#10
Manuel Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ACT Australia Posts: 506	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Full size Fords are still being made in Australia with rear drive. Manuel in Oz

05-11-2011, 08:55 PM	#11
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company I worked for Bridgeport L&M back in 56. It was owned by Cl. Muse of Muse's raiders. Nice guy.. He had the new continentals there had a chance to drive on. They came only with or with out AC. $9800 bucks and it was yours

05-12-2011, 05:10 PM	#12
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Manual, they stopped making the fairlane a few years back,I have one of the last ones,a nice car with a great motoer and 6 speed auto,but not as quite and smooth ride as my old V12 Jaguar,BUT more reliable for sure,Its main job is the tow car for the flathead dragster. Lawrie

05-19-2011, 05:32 AM	#13
roccaas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,300	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Mullally really wanted to pull the plug on Lincoln, but the worldwide presence of the brand's name is keeping it alive. The question is whether the Waterfall Grill is enough to keep these new warmed over Fords alive. I'd love to see a REAL Lincoln created. Something world class, limited edition, rear wheel drive, better ride than anything else on earth. They'd probably go back to Tata Motors and ask for the Aston or Jag foundation to build an American Super Sports Luxe. Suicide Doors, MOMA recognition of the design, egg crate grill, NO Continental Kit. That would be something. Otherwise we get an up-price, up-content Ford that is crushed on resale value as the market realizes that it is nothing but a gussied up Fusion/Taurus/Edge/Expedition. __________________ 20 years ago we had Johnny Cash, Steve Jobs, and Bob Hope. Now we have no Cash, no Jobs, and no Hope...please don't let Kevin Bacon die!

05-19-2011, 06:43 AM	#14
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company This is an artist rendering of a Lincoln Town Car Concept, if only Ford would build it… I’d sure buy one! __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

08-05-2011, 02:19 AM	#15
moefuzz Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Under A Clean V8 Posts: 228	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company . ^^^^^^^ Mmmmm, suicide doors.... .

08-05-2011, 07:42 AM	#16
Ray With Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Montgomery,Texas Posts: 115	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company to damn round for me and by the time you hit the freeway with all the ricers it would blend in and you couldnt see it. Look at the 2011 Hyundai Genesis and the qabove is way to close to it. I want classic production that stands out like a sore thumb. The 1972 M IV is a good example with a quarter mile long hood-lot of leg room-great driver and reasonably economical for the time. Now thats a car and with todays teck available it could be a little lighter and more economical under the hood. These round nose with the ass ends that look like they were hit in the ass buy a flat board has to go. __________________ Hotrodchat's Picture Gallery 26,000 pictures to keep you looking

08-07-2011, 07:29 AM	#17
biggeorge Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Merrimac Mass Posts: 161	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company I was a mechanic for Lincoln mercury from 1978-88. They were the best made American cars at that time. i own a few marks 1 & 2 & 3's and loved them. Great cars

08-08-2011, 12:33 PM	#19
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company Beautiful background shots. Nice Lincoln as well.

08-07-2011, 07:13 AM	#20
Henryat1140 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Hereford, Maryland Posts: 218	Re: The History of the Lincoln Motor Car Company When I see something like this movie with Edsel, it makes me sad. I've done a fair amount of reading on the history of the FoMoCo, and one of the tragedies is Ford's treatment of Edsel. He was really mean to him, sometimes bullying him in front of others. Ford's rationale was that Edsel was 'too soft', and needed toughening up. The truth was Edsel was the treasure of FoMoCo; had the the vision and imagination, while Henry was hidebound, mistrustful and rooted in old ways. He was much under the influence of Harry Bennett, the evil head of security, who was a real thug. There was contention between Bennett and Edsel for Henry's attention. Those of use who love the flathead era owe a lot to Edsel and his influence. Bob Gregorie, the visionary stylist was a close friend and protege of Edsel's. We have Gregorie to thank for the styling during the 30's. We have Edsel to thank for hydraulic brakes, shift on the column, and other innovations. By most contemporary reports Edsel was a gentle somewhat shy person. After he died, the company floundered until Henry II took it over. One of his first actions was to fire Harry Bennett. It's an interesting period, and much as we admire Henry for his part in history, he was far less human in his personal life.