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Old 05-13-2020, 04:02 PM   #1
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Have read several posts on which show goes in fron on the hyd brakes ,,35 using 39 backing plates ,,removed drums today,small shoe in front!,these are Lockheed brakes according to motor old manual,,several guys say large shoe in front,Bob Drake shows a picture in his add and say short shoe in front!!!
My brakes were not very good is why I’m checking them,cyl were all bad and leaking also,going to replace all and MC also,should I go with the ss lined at speedway or the cheaper ones,, thanks
All I have to do now is be able to get up and down to do the work at 85yr young things get slower...
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Long shoe to the front.
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I've always been told the the shorter shoe is the lead shoe and goes to the front and the long shoe to the rear.
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I've always been told the the shorter shoe is the lead shoe and goes to the front and the long shoe to the rear.
That is correct for later self energising brakes which may have been the norm when that was said to you.

On early ford brakes (39-48) the long shoe goes to the front. Coincidentally the larger end of the wheel cylinders goes to the front. In my mind I remember "big big". Big shoe and big end of cylinder to the front.

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On Lockheed brakes the longer shoe faces forward and so does the larger dia.
of the wheel cylinder. Shown are 40 Ford left front and right rear.
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Old 05-13-2020, 05:44 PM   #6
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Long in front is what I’ll go with,,,
Drake info is wrong!!!
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Old 05-13-2020, 06:33 PM   #7
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Have read several posts on which show goes in fron on the hyd brakes ,,35 using 39 backing plates ,,removed drums today,small shoe in front!,these are Lockheed brakes according to motor old manual,,several guys say large shoe in front,Bob Drake shows a picture in his add and say short shoe in front!!!
My brakes were not very good is why I’m checking them,cyl were all bad and leaking also,going to replace all and MC also,should I go with the ss lined at speedway or the cheaper ones,, thanks
All I have to do now is be able to get up and down to do the work at 85yr young things get slower...
You've got me beat by one year,

How do you keep going? i'm having trouble to get things done.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:17 PM   #8
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Large shoes to the front.
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Old 05-14-2020, 01:27 PM   #9
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Hope, Please post a photo of your backing plate with brakes installed. I'm just curious as to what they look like. If they look like my photos above, they are Lockheed. If they look like this photo they are Bendix style. This is right rear. Big shoe on rear.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:35 PM   #10
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Mine look like post no 5!
Got MC out and one rear drum,sounded like a 45 cal piston when it released..had the pressure on standing looking and pow ,what a relief ,another to go..
Found the wheel cyl full of water just like front,where did all the water come from,,car has never seen a drop of water in almost 20 yrs
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Brake fuid(non synthetic) attracts moisture.
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Old 05-14-2020, 09:22 PM   #12
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Hope, Please post a photo of your backing plate with brakes installed. I'm just curious as to what they look like. If they look like my photos above, they are Lockheed. If they look like this photo they are Bendix style. This is right rear. Big shoe on rear.

Hi Fordy


My brakes are Lockeed, and everything is on hold for now. I just came in from the garage a while ago, some days are good and other days (like yesterday) a total loss, i could't do ANYTHING NOTHING at all , i was a "rag".


Today was a good day did quite a few things ,even on only 3-4 hours of activity, that's about all i can do now in a day.

Kinda late now to try and post a picture, i'll try tomorrow but i have a terrible time to do that.

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"Hope" - I can relate to everything you have said here!

Keep on keepin' on!
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Hope, No need to post photo. Don't waste your energy.
Conserve it for working when you are able.
Hope you feel better. JIM
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19Fordy - Where did you get your rear Bendix brakes from ? Thanks - F F
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I bought mine years ago from Gary (Krylon 32 on Fodbarn) at Cornhuskers Rod and Custom. They are made by Bolling Brothers. I bought the complete kits for all 4 wheels with 2 in wide brake shoes. You need to grind away a little metal near the king pin area to make them fit. It's no big deal. I bought their rear hubs but used my original Ford rear bearings. Work and fit fine.
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^^ Ok , thanks ! - F F ^^
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