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Automotive Stud · 07-27-2018, 02:42 PM

For what it's worth my car has the late ash trays and late wiper motor bracket also.

Graeme / New Zealand · 07-27-2018, 07:21 PM

Kiwis and Aussies are always taking the piss out of each other and we'd say Australians have a "chip on their shoulder"( making them unbalanced)...looks like their 40 Fords do too ..or should I say a "chip on their fender"

This is an interesting thread. Although NZ cars were Canadian sourced we never got the 40 here as we had already turned to war production so we cant comment from a NZ perspective.

Just noticed the 39 deluxe overiders on the Aussie cars too.

GB

mercman from oz · 08-25-2018, 11:33 PM

Here is another example of a 1940 Ford Deluxe with the uneven Tail Lights. This problem is not just an isolated case as you can from the many examples shown above.

V8COOPMAN · 08-26-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Graeme / New Zealand

Just noticed the 39 deluxe overiders on the Aussie cars too.

GB

OK, for us dummies up here in The States, what is an "overider", or "overrider"? DD

Gary in La. · 08-26-2018, 09:09 AM

I think it's a bumper guard here in the states.

mercman from oz · 08-27-2018, 01:46 AM

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All Australian assembled 1940 Fords got the carry-over 1939 Over Riders / Bumper Guards, as you can see from the Cover of the original Australian Sales Brochure

mercman from oz · 09-10-2018, 05:52 AM

A friend is working on this 1940 Ford Deluxe Sloper that has had a very hard neglected life. It is not in the best shape as you can see, but the owner reckons that he will fix it up. I asked him to measure the positioning of the Tail Lights. As was the case with previous 1940 Ford Deluxe models in this Thread that we have measured, the Right hand Tail Light is higher than the Left Tail Light.

mercman from oz · 10-01-2018, 12:44 AM

Screen shot of the mismatched Australian 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights.

ford38v8 · 10-01-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz

A friend is working on this 1940 Ford Deluxe Sloper that has had a very hard neglected life. It is not in the best shape as you can see, but the owner reckons that he will fix it up. I asked him to measure the positioning of the Tail Lights. As was the case with previous 1940 Ford Deluxe models in this Thread that we have measured, the Right hand Tail Light is higher than the Left Tail Light.

As with the Sloper in post 15, this one has the decklid badge below the handle, although it appears that this particular one may also have had one in the normal location above the license plate. Something else to watch for on the 40's from Down Under!

mercman from oz · 01-07-2019, 10:44 PM

After reading all the replies to this Thread, it seems that the Tail Light mounted on the Right Side in the higher position is the correct height, the same as the 1940 Fords in the USA. The one on the Left Side that sits lower is the incorrect one. That could mean that Ford Australia imported all Standard Passenger Side Rear Fenders for their 1940 Fords, and added the extra Tail Lights for the Deluxe models locally. Unfortunately, I don't think that we will find a definite answer to this question. The people who worked on these cars when new are no longer with us. So, the higher mounted Tail Light on these RHD 1940 Fords is in the correct position, while the Passenger Side Tail Light is mounted too low.

oz40 · 01-08-2019, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ford38v8

As with the Sloper in post 15, this one has the decklid badge below the handle, although it appears that this particular one may also have had one in the normal location above the license plate. Something else to watch for on the 40's from Down Under!

Only the Slopers had the Ford badge below the handle,, whereas the 4 door sedans had it above the handle, similar to the US models.

oz40 · 01-08-2019, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz

After reading all the replies to this Thread, it seems that the Tail Light mounted on the Right Side in the higher position is the correct height, the same as the 1940 Fords in the USA. The one on the Left Side that sits lower is the incorrect one. That could mean that Ford Australia imported all Standard Passenger Side Rear Fenders for their 1940 Fords, and added the extra Tail Lights for the Deluxe models locally. Unfortunately, I don't think that we will find a definite answer to this question. The people who worked on these cars when new are no longer with us. So, the higher mounted Tail Light on these RHD 1940 Fords is in the correct position, while the Passenger Side Tail Light is mounted too low.

Hi Mercman,, you may be right there,, but I'm tipping that Ford may have also used up the 39 rear LHS fender,, and to fit the 40 tail light, they trimmed out the 39 area which had the slight hump at the top profile of the tailight. I suspect that the 39 tail light position and its profile would have meant the 40 tail light being installed slightly lower.. Curious to know if the 39 tail light does sit lower.

mercman from oz · 01-09-2019, 06:40 AM

OZ40, I got my friend to measure the distance of his Tear Drop Tail Light to the bottom of the Fender on his early Australian 1940 Ford Deluxe Sedan, and it is only 6 inches. On that basis, Ford Australia could not have used up these early Fenders, as the hole would be way too low. It was a good thought and worth while investigating. Thanks for your input.

07-27-2018, 02:42 PM	#41
Automotive Stud Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: New Jersey Posts: 832	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights For what it's worth my car has the late ash trays and late wiper motor bracket also.

07-27-2018, 07:21 PM	#42
Graeme / New Zealand Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lower Hutt , New Zealand Posts: 2,126	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights Kiwis and Aussies are always taking the piss out of each other and we'd say Australians have a "chip on their shoulder"( making them unbalanced)...looks like their 40 Fords do too ..or should I say a "chip on their fender" This is an interesting thread. Although NZ cars were Canadian sourced we never got the 40 here as we had already turned to war production so we cant comment from a NZ perspective. Just noticed the 39 deluxe overiders on the Aussie cars too. GB __________________ "you can't make honey out of dog sht" "You're a long time looking at the lid" Last edited by Graeme / New Zealand; 07-27-2018 at 07:30 PM.*

08-25-2018, 11:33 PM	#43
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights Here is another example of a 1940 Ford Deluxe with the uneven Tail Lights. This problem is not just an isolated case as you can from the many examples shown above.

08-26-2018, 09:09 AM	#45
Gary in La. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Louisiana Posts: 866	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights I think it's a bumper guard here in the states.

08-27-2018, 01:46 AM	#46
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) All Australian assembled 1940 Fords got the carry-over 1939 Over Riders / Bumper Guards, as you can see from the Cover of the original Australian Sales Brochure

09-10-2018, 05:52 AM	#47
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights A friend is working on this 1940 Ford Deluxe Sloper that has had a very hard neglected life. It is not in the best shape as you can see, but the owner reckons that he will fix it up. I asked him to measure the positioning of the Tail Lights. As was the case with previous 1940 Ford Deluxe models in this Thread that we have measured, the Right hand Tail Light is higher than the Left Tail Light.

10-01-2018, 12:44 AM	#48
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights Screen shot of the mismatched Australian 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights.

01-07-2019, 10:44 PM	#50
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights After reading all the replies to this Thread, it seems that the Tail Light mounted on the Right Side in the higher position is the correct height, the same as the 1940 Fords in the USA. The one on the Left Side that sits lower is the incorrect one. That could mean that Ford Australia imported all Standard Passenger Side Rear Fenders for their 1940 Fords, and added the extra Tail Lights for the Deluxe models locally. Unfortunately, I don't think that we will find a definite answer to this question. The people who worked on these cars when new are no longer with us. So, the higher mounted Tail Light on these RHD 1940 Fords is in the correct position, while the Passenger Side Tail Light is mounted too low.

01-09-2019, 06:40 AM	#53
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,368	Re: 1940 Ford Deluxe Tail Lights OZ40, I got my friend to measure the distance of his Tear Drop Tail Light to the bottom of the Fender on his early Australian 1940 Ford Deluxe Sedan, and it is only 6 inches. On that basis, Ford Australia could not have used up these early Fenders, as the hole would be way too low. It was a good thought and worth while investigating. Thanks for your input.