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Old 06-14-2018, 10:17 PM   #1
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Default Split New Inner Tubes

Hi All,

I recently bought two new 21" inner tubes for my '29 Ford from a respected supplier we should all know in this forum. One was to replace the one in the spare tire and the second to be kept as a spare. The old inner tube appeared okay and held air but I was concerned that it was at least 20 years old.

After I replaced the tube I rotated the tires and the spare was attached to the front left. After a few days (and a hundred miles) the tire was flat due to a split. I have attached a couple of photos which depict the split. I then replaced it with the second inner tube and lo and behold after a few days it split in the same way!

I checked the rim and it was smooth. Last year I removed the tires from the rims, wire brushed them off and applied Rustoleum. I left them drying for a week and then applied new rubber protector bands before installing for new inner tubes from another vendor and replacing the tires. I did the same to the spare tire except I reused the old inner tube. I have had no problems with the inner tubes until now.

The bottom line is I do not think the rim damaged the inner tube as it is relatively smooth and the old inner tube has been running in the former spare for the last few days without any problem.

Comparing the tubes from another vendor, they were a bit fatter than the two I just purchased. In fact the recent two when I put air to them to test appeared to be a bit skinny for my 4.50 tire even though the tubes were labelled to match my tire.

I am going to call the vendor and relay this problem. My question to the forum is have anyone else gone through this and what are your thoughts?

Thanks,

Terry
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:25 PM   #2
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talcum powder.
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Old 06-14-2018, 10:28 PM   #3
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I failed to mention that. I did the talcum powder.
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Old 06-14-2018, 11:20 PM   #4
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That has been an issue with one supplier's tubes, would have hoped they would have corrected it...

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Old 06-15-2018, 04:44 AM   #5
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If I remember correctly, Bratton's have the tubes made on spec for them with 100% new rubber not recycled rubber. There are no USA made Model A tubes.
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Old 06-15-2018, 06:25 AM   #6
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Any rubber products from China are junk. Never had a problem with rubber inner tubes made in the USA. Unfortunately we are now stuck with China junk. I tried to find bicycle inner tubes made anywhere other than China, but had no luck. Finally bought a couple Goodyear bicycle inner tubes off ebay, and so far they are holding air, even though they also came from China.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:28 AM   #7
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Firestone tubes are made in USA. I think they have model A sizes. Others may know for sure.
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Old 06-15-2018, 08:50 AM   #8
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From their website:

"Bridgestone Americas Tube Business (BATB), a division of Bridgestone Americas Tire Operations, LLC, is based in Russellville, Arkansas. <snip> Today, BATB is the only inner tube manufacturer in the U.S. and Canada."
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:15 AM   #9
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[B]Since they split on the seam line, it's quite apparent that you DIDN'T[PINCH them. Must be TRULY defective!!!
Isn't it amazing, that over the years, NOBODY has come up with something BETTER, than the OLD PNEUMATIC TIRE?---Even TRAIN WHEELS have been UNCHANGED. Train tracks STILL mimic the spacing of ROMAN CHARIOT TRACKS!!!
Saw a pic of some SOLID RUBBER TIRES, made here, that had 2" HOLES bored through them, for "CUSHION"---LOL----A Frenchman made a tube shaped SPRING, to replace the TUBE, but that didn't wurk, either!!---My Home Help Gal just had a flat, from a 4"" NAIL, My Daughter had one from a 4" BOLT!---Mine have mostly been from SCREWS!!
MOST flats happen on the REAR, I "think" the FRONT hits something & propels it at ROCKET speed, into the rear tire. Once found a 1/2 X 9/16" wrench, INSIDE a rear tire!!!
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FWIW

In august of 2017 I purchased inner tubes from one of the Tire vendors, and the tube valve stem was not on center, I sent them back and purchased tubes from Berts and am happy with them, they are china tubes.

Here are two photos of the tube with the off center valve stem.
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Old 06-15-2018, 11:46 AM   #11
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The tubes in my Town Sedan that I got from Lucas Tires in Long Beach were Made in India. This September will be 4 years since I installed them and have had zero problems.
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Old 06-15-2018, 01:20 PM   #12
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When I changed the 16" tubes, in Vermin, some Guy in Canada, wanted to BUY my Old Tubes!
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Old 06-15-2018, 02:37 PM   #13
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I have been running tubes which I purchased from Snyder's over 35 years ago. They have out lasted three set of tires and have no problems. I see no need to purchase new tubes with when it's time for new tires again.
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Bert's has the best tubes, the 19" are radial tubes, don't know about the 21".
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Old 06-15-2018, 03:14 PM   #15
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Can you run a radial tube in a bias ply tire?
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Old 06-15-2018, 05:06 PM   #16
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I have inner tubes on my ccpu for 35 years,never had a flat,probably usa made.
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:00 PM   #17
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I have inner tubes on my ccpu for 35 years,never had a flat,probably usa made.
Same here,,, same tubes in the Model A they are from the mid-70's never leak. Always hold air.

Why can't a person buy anything with quality today so much stuff is pure junk
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Old 06-16-2018, 01:45 PM   #18
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I have found old red rubber tubes in tires that were mounted in the 1960's. No idea when those red tubes were made but they still held air in the 1990's. The best old tubes were those made by Firestone and Montgomery Ward's Riverside brand.
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For Jeff post #15.
Yes you can use radial tubes in bias ply tires BUT not the other way (bias ply tubes in radial tires).
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Yes you can use radial tubes in bias ply tires BUT not the other way (bias ply tubes in radial tires).
It is been my experience and believe me on the farm we have lots of Tire issues the new tubes are not worth putting in a tractor tire unless they are radials if you get the cheap Chinese tubes you're just wasting your money and your labor

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