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02-17-2018, 11:55 AM | #1 |
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rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Id enjoyed the thread started earlier today in regard to the true definition of NOS vs. NORS parts. I am hoping a number of folks will pay attention to Dave and learn from his very accurate response.
Now, along those lines... "RESTORED" is one word that is nearly always misused. A fellow can't describe a car as "RESTORED" and then go on to explain all the "upgrades" that he installed as well as the candy apple red paint, etc. Restore: to repair or renovate (a building, work of art, vehicle, etc.) so as to return it to its original condition.
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Amen. Tell this to the auction house folks - who should know better.
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Kinda like the word “Vintage”, which is thrown around a lot. I’ve seen new made stuff for sale advertised as vintage. And they are not wrong because it could be 2017 Vintage!
See Webster’s; “a period origin or manufacture” |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I like to look down inside doors when the windows are down to see if the "total restoration " was just a external paint restoration--- only saw one car at Hershey that the inside of the door was restored--- I know it is expensive, I have over 8 hours in a wiper motor and it worked before I started
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
A close second in the misnomer race is "barn find".
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I like the "patina" of an "unrestored" "original" car....
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Another term is how "Henry made it" if Henry Ford spent that much time on the assembly line, I sure Ford wouldn't have produced over twelve million flathead's.
When I was looking to buy my '41 I looked at a lot of "restored" cars with Chebby motors and automatics in them. To some sellers modifying somehow means restored. |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Does anyone know how what should be known as a 'body-off restoration' became the term 'frame-off restoration'? Physically, the latter makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe it came from the folks who brought us the sail-less mast of the steering column.
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02-17-2018, 06:45 PM | #11 |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
I'll guess body off means right side up. Frame off, upside down. Did I guess right? 8^) Jack E/NJ
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
“Barn find” pi$$es me off more than “restored to original” .
I’m dropping the frame out from under the body on my ‘51 for paint and floor patches but I still won’t call it “restored”......Mark
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Then how about calling it frame-drop refreshed? I'll bet that would sound impressive to some folks. Jack E/NJ
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
In my eyes the term "restored" means it's just like it rolled out of the Rouge plant. There are damn few "restored " Fords out there. I know there are lots of them that I call redone or refurbished , me included ,that have these cars and enjoy them but when the term " restored " is used it means a whole nother ball game for me.
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
On my model A i lifted the body off the frame ---body off restoration,
on my 36 the frame was dropped out from under the body---frame off restoration |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Fixed up junk fits a lot of stuff, anymore i just like something that's roadworthy and i dont have to worry about it. Both of these fits most cars i see that are called restored.
I remember seeing a car that was suppose to to have nice solid floors. After a closer look most of the the floor was cut out. The seller was a shister and his patsy stuck up for him by saying YOU HAVE TO READ BETWEEN THE LINES when i asked about the nice solid floors. |
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
"Tongue in cheek" would a 1932 Roadster with Brookville (or Wescott) body, new TCI et al chassis, and a "crate" motor and transmission be considered "ALL ORIGINAL"?
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
What if a person started out with a single part (a luggage rack) and spent 30 years collecting only parts (from 23 states and lost track) that are to the best of his knowledge correct for a 65 year old 3 month production window, then rebuilt and refinished every part, then assembled a complete numbers matching finished car from those parts, (luggage rack not used) what would you call the end product. A recreation or a pleasant preoccupation?
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Re: rleated to NOS vs NORS thread: "restored"
Both those and also quite possibly a restoration depending on how well all of the parts were put together. In other words, once the parts are off the shelves and put together, how is the result not a whole vehicle?
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