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burner31 · 10-30-2017, 01:18 PM

Champion W16Y on mine

WHN · 10-30-2017, 01:39 PM

We have always used the Champion plug also. Never a problem. Enjoy.

Patrick L. · 10-30-2017, 01:53 PM

Autolite 3077

AL in NY · 10-30-2017, 02:08 PM

3X plugs run the best in my engine.

J Franklin · 10-30-2017, 02:39 PM

3X also for me.

smittykid · 10-30-2017, 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burner31

Champion W16Y on mine

I run w16Y's as well-what gap setting do you use?

WHN · 10-30-2017, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smittykid

I run w16Y's as well-what gap setting do you use?

Gap set at 35. Enjoy.

JOHN CT · 10-30-2017, 03:31 PM

I've tried quite a few but 3x in my A,it's happy!! And so am I.

Fullraceflathead · 10-30-2017, 03:44 PM

I'm running Firestones but only because they were in it when I bought it. They run fine so far I've driven maybe 1500 miles.
I'm going to put in the Repo Champion 3X's soon.

duke36 · 10-30-2017, 04:40 PM

The Champion #518 (W18) run nicely in h.comp. heads at .030/.032

Big hammer · 10-30-2017, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke36

the champion #518 (w18) run nicely in h.comp. Heads at .030/.032

x-2

Y-Blockhead · 10-30-2017, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke36

The Champion #518 (W18) run nicely in h.comp. heads at .030/.032

Duke, since I installed my 5.5 head it seems to run rich with 3X (No other changes). Did you find the same? and that is why you run the W18's. I was thinking of trying the W18. Thanks

duke36 · 10-30-2017, 05:04 PM

See Larry Brumfield post of 6-29-10 for info. on plugs.
YBlock, our 5.5 w/ W18's (new no. 518) runs a nice tan color and the price is right per plug. We ran TT10's for awhile and the car likes the 518's with a Marvel carb. Note this is w/ FS zipper ignition which we're going to change back to modern points due to advance issues on hills and see how that works. Also, I use small amounts of lead substitute and ethanol stabilizer in gas (but not sure how much effect that has.).

Y-Blockhead · 10-30-2017, 05:12 PM

Thanks for the info Duke

duke36 · 10-30-2017, 05:27 PM

Lot's of discussion/opinions about heat range, etc. We tried different plugs we had on hand to see what works for our set up, so others may have different experiences.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 10-30-2017, 05:43 PM

ANYTHING with the right heat range & burns CLEAN!
There are NO "MAGIC" Spark plugs!
Driving with "GUSTO", helps to keep plugs running CLEAN.
LOOOONG idling sessions crap them up.
Bill Smooth

glenn in camino · 10-30-2017, 07:41 PM

I use restored Champion 3Xs in all my stock model As.

RandyinUtah · 10-30-2017, 09:15 PM

37 years and 40000 miles on the same set of reproduction champion 3X and see no need to change.

Ed Saniewski · 10-31-2017, 05:10 AM

3X run the best for me.

andyg · 10-31-2017, 06:49 AM

Anything but new Champions.

JD 1931 · 10-31-2017, 07:16 AM

Champion W-18, run them for years, good plug....

WHN · 10-31-2017, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyg

Anything but new Champions.

Interested in your comment. Why? What problems have you had?

Are you talking about a stock Model A engine? Enjoy.

1928Mik · 10-31-2017, 08:17 AM

Champion W18 here. Same as JD1931 says.

barkleydave · 11-01-2017, 01:21 PM

Same here Champion W18 4,000 miles and they look new. Good Power curve 16 mpg average.

50B · 11-02-2017, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barkleydave

Same here Champion W18 4,000 miles and they look new. Good Power curve 16 mpg average.

Same here with 34,000 miles.

50B

burner31 · 11-02-2017, 01:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WHN

Interested in your comment. Why? What problems have you had?

Are you talking about a stock Model A engine? Enjoy.

I am having no problems.
I have used both the champions and autolite, but prefer the champions due to their size/looks.
They seem to have a better appearance on top of the engine then the skinny autolite plugs
I was just curious as to what others were running.
And yes, I am totally stock.

WHN · 11-02-2017, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burner31

I am having no problems.
I have used both the champions and autolite, but prefer the champions due to their size/looks.
They seem to have a better appearance on top of the engine then the skinny autolite plugs
I was just curious as to what others were running.
And yes, I am totally stock.

I misunderstood you post. I like Champions to, for your same reason. Sorry. Enjoy.

western77 · 11-02-2017, 02:14 PM

Went to advance auto and got their cheapest, TT10s. 50,000 miles on the same plugs. Works for me! JB

Kurt in NJ · 11-02-2017, 03:19 PM

I'm cheap, free plugs, champion 3X, picked them out of the trash at Hershey, were black, ran them lean and hard, now burning near white

TRP · 12-05-2017, 04:56 PM

Hello Gang,

My car is currently running Champion C-16 C plugs. I pulled them out and they look a little worse for wear. The center electrode is noticeably worn out near the ground electrode. I planned on replacing the plugs with Champion 3X's as recommended here.

Should I have any concern with such a swap? If I should start my own thread for this question, I will. Don't mean to step on anyone's toes.

Thank you for your time,
Ted

Bob-A · 12-05-2017, 07:42 PM

Champion W-18's with a Pertronix Flame-Thrower coil.

Yeow-za!

Bob-A

glenn in camino · 12-05-2017, 08:00 PM

Rebuilt original 3Xs on mine

Purdy Swoft · 12-06-2017, 04:05 PM

I hear ya Bob A in post #31 . Same here , I love it !!!!!!!

MNFATS · 12-06-2017, 04:19 PM

Have always used 3X

JD 1931 · 12-06-2017, 05:13 PM

Champion W-18 for years...

eswanson · 12-06-2017, 05:40 PM

I've had good luck finding piugs sold as racing plugs from the 30's and 40's... authenticity and still a bloody hot fire

John Stone · 12-06-2017, 05:45 PM

I've been running either 3X's or W18's (518) for years and here is a picture showing one reason why. Don't try this at home unless you have a lot of hacksaw blades.

Bob-A · 12-06-2017, 06:50 PM

Mr. Swoft, A "Blast from the Past". How are your doing I haven't seen you on here in a while?

Bob-A

Sunnybrook Farm · 12-07-2017, 08:03 AM

I am still running C 16 C in the car that I restored in the 70s, probably the key to all of them is having the mixture right.

dr.j · 12-07-2017, 08:08 AM

W18 at .32 with HP head.

kenparker · 12-07-2017, 09:05 AM

here is an article i wrote for our local newsletter. it might help someone understand hot plugs and cold plugs. ken

HoarseWhisperer · 12-07-2017, 09:14 AM

3X at .035" gap on standard head.
3X at .030" gap on 5.5 head.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-07-2017, 11:37 AM

HOW??? do you "restore" plugs??? Just clean them???? IF they're burned away & tired, just CAN them or use them for FISHING Weights or hang one on your Mirror or Key Ring--LOL
Bill Runninggood

Purdy Swoft · 12-07-2017, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob-A

Mr. Swoft, A "Blast from the Past". How are your doing I haven't seen you on here in a while?

Bob-A

Hello Bob ,
Its been over two years since I posted here . I'm slowly getting over a cold but otherwise doing Purdy good . When I read your post about the W 18 Champion plugs and the Flame thrower coil I couldn't resist posting. Its good to see you here !!! I hope that you and yours are doing good .
Your friend Purdy .

Bob-A · 12-09-2017, 08:55 AM

Purdy,

Good to hear from you and hope you and yours are all okay too.

I still owe you one for that Simmons throttle shaft you gave me!

I'm giving a Pertronix 40111 coil to a good friend for Christmas. I'm even going to say I
will install it for him. To prove to him it is the way to go, for Model-A's
on the go!

Take care and please continue passing on all the Model-A wisdom you have.

Bob-A

Purdy Swoft · 12-09-2017, 12:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob-A

Purdy,

Good to hear from you and hope you and yours are all okay too.

I still owe you one for that Simmons throttle shaft you gave me!

I'm giving a Pertronix 40111 coil to a good friend for Christmas. I'm even going to say I
will install it for him. To prove to him it is the way to go, for Model-A's
on the go!

Take care and please continue passing on all the Model-A wisdom you have.

Bob-A

Bob,
Thanks for the kind words !!! You are one of the best ever and you know your stuff . The guy that you will be giving the Pertronix coil to is lucky to have you for a friend !!!!!!! Heres wishing you and yopurs a merry Christmas and a happy new year .
Purdy

Y-Blockhead · 12-12-2017, 11:57 PM

I have been running my PerTronix 40611 Flame Thrower since Purdy recommended it ~3 years ago.

Beater · 12-13-2017, 02:44 PM

soooo, a sorta new to A guy here. is the 3X still available or parts available? or is it a swapmeet thing ?

Y-Blockhead · 12-13-2017, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beater

soooo, a sorta new to A guy here. is the 3X still available or parts available? or is it a swapmeet thing ?

The "new" 3X (Champion 429) is available, cost ~ $30.00-40.00 per, depending on where you buy them.

Cheapest I have seen them lately in Amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Plug...+3x+spark+plug

SeaSlugs · 12-13-2017, 03:47 PM

They do show up on amazon once in awhile for $16 a plug... Just gotta watch closely. Its happened a few times over the years. I got my 4 haha.

Beater · 12-13-2017, 08:02 PM

ok so obviously still being made then. what about internals if a fellow finds a original set that need refurbishment?

29er · 12-14-2017, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob-A

Champion W-18's with a Pertronix Flame-Thrower coil.

Yeow-za!

Bob-A

Like Purdy once said: "Power you can feel in the seat of your pants"!

(I'm REAL glad he said that, too, because I was wondering if I was having issues with my 'Depends')

burner31 · 12-15-2017, 07:33 AM

I just bought...I mean Santa is getting me the Pertronix Flame-Thrower coil, because I've been a very good boy this year.
I run the W-18's, but I found a new 3X plug online for $15 (free shipping), just need three more.

10-30-2017, 01:18 PM	#1
burner31 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Shawnee, Ok Posts: 3,471	Which plug do you run? Champion W16Y on mine __________________ Keith Shawnee OK '31 SW 160-B

10-30-2017, 01:39 PM	#2
WHN Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Connecticut Shoreline Posts: 1,823	Re: Which plug do you run? We have always used the Champion plug also. Never a problem. Enjoy.

10-30-2017, 02:08 PM	#4
AL in NY Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern Upstate New York Posts: 1,160	Re: Which plug do you run? 3X plugs run the best in my engine. __________________ AL in NY

10-30-2017, 03:31 PM	#8
JOHN CT Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: In my garage Posts: 465	Re: Which plug do you run? I've tried quite a few but 3x in my A,it's happy!! And so am I. __________________ 31 Tudor 66 Bonneville 57 Chevy pickup 27 T roadster pick up

10-30-2017, 03:44 PM	#9
Fullraceflathead Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Chillicothe, Missouri Posts: 1,176	Re: Which plug do you run? I'm running Firestones but only because they were in it when I bought it. They run fine so far I've driven maybe 1500 miles. I'm going to put in the Repo Champion 3X's soon. __________________ "If I asked people what they wanted they would have said faster horses." -Henry Ford "Primitive technology is not a design flaw" 1928 Ford Model A Roadster Pickup 1930 Gordon Smith Air Compressor 1941 Willy's Pickup 1960 Thunderbird-For Sale 1964 Buick Riviera 2x4 425 1965 Pontiac GTO, 455 Super Duty 2004 Dodge Ram SRT-10, V-10 Viper 1977 Charger Jet Boat,460 Ford,Jacuzzi Jet Front Engine Nostalgia Dragster,Supercharged 296 "Fullrace Flathead" Ford Engine Build up on DVD ask

10-30-2017, 01:53 PM	#3
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Which plug do you run? Autolite 3077

10-30-2017, 02:39 PM	#5
J Franklin Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 5,963	Re: Which plug do you run? 3X also for me.

10-30-2017, 04:40 PM	#10
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Which plug do you run? The Champion #518 (W18) run nicely in h.comp. heads at .030/.032

10-30-2017, 05:04 PM	#13
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Which plug do you run? See Larry Brumfield post of 6-29-10 for info. on plugs. YBlock, our 5.5 w/ W18's (new no. 518) runs a nice tan color and the price is right per plug. We ran TT10's for awhile and the car likes the 518's with a Marvel carb. Note this is w/ FS zipper ignition which we're going to change back to modern points due to advance issues on hills and see how that works. Also, I use small amounts of lead substitute and ethanol stabilizer in gas (but not sure how much effect that has.).

10-30-2017, 05:12 PM	#14
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Which plug do you run? Thanks for the info Duke Last edited by Y-Blockhead; 12-12-2017 at 11:59 PM.

10-30-2017, 05:27 PM	#15
duke36 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,414	Re: Which plug do you run? Lot's of discussion/opinions about heat range, etc. We tried different plugs we had on hand to see what works for our set up, so others may have different experiences.

10-30-2017, 05:43 PM	#16
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Which plug do you run? ANYTHING with the right heat range & burns CLEAN! There are NO "MAGIC" Spark plugs! Driving with "GUSTO", helps to keep plugs running CLEAN. LOOOONG idling sessions crap them up. Bill Smooth __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 10-31-2017 at 07:49 AM.

10-30-2017, 07:41 PM	#17
glenn in camino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camino, CA. Posts: 3,086	Re: Which plug do you run? I use restored Champion 3Xs in all my stock model As.

10-30-2017, 09:15 PM	#18
RandyinUtah Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ogden Utah Posts: 242	Re: Which plug do you run? 37 years and 40000 miles on the same set of reproduction champion 3X and see no need to change.

10-31-2017, 05:10 AM	#19
Ed Saniewski Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Denville NJ Posts: 964	Re: Which plug do you run? 3X run the best for me. __________________ Model A Ford Club of New Jersey http://www.mafcnj.org Model A Pick Up Owners and Enthusiasts https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/group.php?groupid=5

10-31-2017, 06:49 AM	#20
andyg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Springfield,MO Posts: 107	Re: Which plug do you run? Anything but new Champions.

10-31-2017, 07:16 AM	#21
JD 1931 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: west coast Fla.. Posts: 311	Re: Which plug do you run? Champion W-18, run them for years, good plug....

10-31-2017, 08:17 AM	#23
1928Mik Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Zanesville Ohio USA Posts: 268	Re: Which plug do you run? Champion W18 here. Same as JD1931 says. __________________ 1928 Niagara Blue Phaeton 1972 Olds 442 Convertible 1979 MGB -Life's Too Short To Drive Boring Cars-

11-01-2017, 01:21 PM	#24
barkleydave Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Kentucky Posts: 502	Re: Which plug do you run? Same here Champion W18 4,000 miles and they look new. Good Power curve 16 mpg average.

11-02-2017, 02:14 PM	#28
western77 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Grand Rapids Mi Posts: 168	Re: Which plug do you run? Went to advance auto and got their cheapest, TT10s. 50,000 miles on the same plugs. Works for me! JB

11-02-2017, 03:19 PM	#29
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: Which plug do you run? I'm cheap, free plugs, champion 3X, picked them out of the trash at Hershey, were black, ran them lean and hard, now burning near white

12-05-2017, 04:56 PM	#30
TRP Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: San Francisco, Bay Area Posts: 101	Re: Which plug do you run? Hello Gang, My car is currently running Champion C-16 C plugs. I pulled them out and they look a little worse for wear. The center electrode is noticeably worn out near the ground electrode. I planned on replacing the plugs with Champion 3X's as recommended here. Should I have any concern with such a swap? If I should start my own thread for this question, I will. Don't mean to step on anyone's toes. Thank you for your time, Ted

12-05-2017, 07:42 PM	#31
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: Which plug do you run? Champion W-18's with a Pertronix Flame-Thrower coil. Yeow-za! Bob-A

12-05-2017, 08:00 PM	#32
glenn in camino Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camino, CA. Posts: 3,086	Re: Which plug do you run? Rebuilt original 3Xs on mine

12-06-2017, 04:05 PM	#33
Purdy Swoft Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 8,099	Re: Which plug do you run? I hear ya Bob A in post #31 . Same here , I love it !!!!!!!

12-06-2017, 04:19 PM	#34
MNFATS Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: St. Cloud MN Posts: 835	Re: Which plug do you run? Have always used 3X

12-06-2017, 05:13 PM	#35
JD 1931 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: west coast Fla.. Posts: 311	Re: Which plug do you run? Champion W-18 for years...

12-06-2017, 05:40 PM	#36
eswanson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Le Roy, IL Posts: 157	Re: Which plug do you run? I've had good luck finding piugs sold as racing plugs from the 30's and 40's... authenticity and still a bloody hot fire __________________ Peace & Grace, Eric Swanson 1931 Model A Pickup

12-06-2017, 06:50 PM	#38
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: Which plug do you run? Mr. Swoft, A "Blast from the Past". How are your doing I haven't seen you on here in a while? Bob-A

12-07-2017, 08:03 AM	#39
Sunnybrook Farm Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 409	Re: Which plug do you run? I am still running C 16 C in the car that I restored in the 70s, probably the key to all of them is having the mixture right.

12-07-2017, 08:08 AM	#40
dr.j Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, ON, Canada Posts: 315	Re: Which plug do you run? W18 at .32 with HP head. __________________ Dave A Jamieson Portland, ON Canada 1928 Tudor

12-07-2017, 09:14 AM	#42
HoarseWhisperer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,470	Re: Which plug do you run? 3X at .035" gap on standard head. 3X at .030" gap on 5.5 head. __________________ I know a lot of things; I just can't remember them all. 1928 CCPU 82-A 1931 Roadster 40-B Dlx (Canadian)

12-07-2017, 11:37 AM	#43
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Which plug do you run? HOW??? do you "restore" plugs??? Just clean them???? IF they're burned away & tired, just CAN them or use them for FISHING Weights or hang one on your Mirror or Key Ring--LOL Bill Runninggood __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 12-07-2017 at 11:39 AM. Reason: MISPELD A WURD

12-09-2017, 08:55 AM	#45
Bob-A Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central FL, USA Posts: 1,138	Re: Which plug do you run? Purdy, Good to hear from you and hope you and yours are all okay too. I still owe you one for that Simmons throttle shaft you gave me! I'm giving a Pertronix 40111 coil to a good friend for Christmas. I'm even going to say I will install it for him. To prove to him it is the way to go, for Model-A's on the go! Take care and please continue passing on all the Model-A wisdom you have. Bob-A

12-12-2017, 11:57 PM	#47
Y-Blockhead Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 5,849	Re: Which plug do you run? I have been running my PerTronix 40611 Flame Thrower since Purdy recommended it ~3 years ago.