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Old 08-28-2019, 07:46 PM   #1
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Default Any idea what tis frame is?

It has wide five wheels and cable brakes like 37-38 Ford but what is it?69045375_10157377635464223_3846931756678643712_n[1].jpg
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:57 PM   #2
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HD wagon. Look at that front spring.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:53 PM   #3
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looks like the front frame rails are pinched in. i cant guess why, but i have had lots of farm wagon frames and never seen that before.
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:13 AM   #4
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I'll take a stab at this: Hydraulic brakes so 1939+. Heavy frame so perhaps 1 ton+.It's certainly not passenger car.
Perhaps measure the wheel base for us? Maybe find the serial number???
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Kube, believe the brakes are cable, not hydraulic.
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Definitely not a passenger frame- it lacks the large 'X'.
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:06 AM   #7
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Maybe a commercial with passenger car axles? But then.. Didn`t commercial trucks have parallel leaf springs in the back?
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If your lucky the wide fives are 18" instead of the normal 16" ones.
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It's a wierd one, It probably was something made up from parts that didn't go together originally. The frame looks commercial but has a deep drop in the centre. A farmer could have spent a couple of days welding that up from whatever was handy. The front U bolts are inverted, the rear has coils added (only one showing).

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How about a Lincoln with the body cut off? Looking at the front and rear crossmembers it appears to have been built with those.
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Kube, believe the brakes are cable, not hydraulic.
I REALLY need my eyes checked. You are correct.
Yikes, I'm calling the doctor now.
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Maybe a commercial with passenger car axles? But then.. Didn`t commercial trucks have parallel leaf springs in the back?
From 42 up yes. Front and rear parallel springs.
I’m with Mart, looks like a conglomeration of parts.
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Lincoln about a 1936
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Lincoln about a 1936
I could be totally off base, but didn't the Zephyr have a hypoid rear-end? This one looks conventional to my eyes, though at the angle it may be impossible to tell for certain.
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We have a winner.

It was for sale on the HAMB a couple of years ago:

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...parts.1078525/


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Good sleuthing guys.
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Interesting, so Lincoln was using cable brakes in 36.
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:35 AM   #18
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Interesting, so Lincoln was using cable brakes in 36.
Self energizing, too.
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Thanks Rich, that arrangement looks very modern! To bad Ford didn't switch over sooner to both hydraulics and self-energizing. I understand Henry's resistance to hydraulics because he didn't use it first, but don't get the Lockheed vs Bendix. Did Henry have a personal issue with Bendix?
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