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Old 04-23-2019, 06:55 PM   #1
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Default 1950 vs. 1941 Pickups

I have a question for those of you that have experienced both vehicles. Does the 1950 Ford F1 pickup handle and drive any different (or better) than a 1941 1/2 ton pickup? And if so, in what way and why (better components, etc.)

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Default Re: 1950 vs. 1941 Pickups

I'd like to know too...I was pleasantly surprised that my '41 handles and drives like a regular car
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I'd like to know too...I was pleasantly surprised that my '41 handles and drives like a regular car
That is interesting to hear that your '41 drives so well. What wheel and tire combo are you running? I just installed new king pins and new tie rods with sleeve, along with a new drag link and I'm not at all happy with the way it drives. I am thinking it is the 6.00 x 16 bias ply tires.
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The toe-in is pretty critical for good steering, I believe it should be 1/8" toe-in.










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put some radials on it! toe-in 1/16 to 1/8"
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:01 PM   #6
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put some radials on it! toe-in 1/16 to 1/8"
That's what I would like to do, but I will need a new set of rims that will take radial tires. I don't want to have to run tubes anymore.
What would you suggest for rims?
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I'd like to know too...I was pleasantly surprised that my '41 handles and drives like a regular car
Thatís because 1941 pretty much had a car frame underneath it. It was in 1942 when they went to the ladder style frame for the half ton trucks.
So I would think that would have a lot to do with the ride.
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41 is easier to make it ride better then a 50.

If you dont use it as a truck you can put lighter springs in it .

Rims for radial 15" tires you can get from a 70s to 80s ford pickup

I got radial tubeless tires on 56 to 66 rims so I can use the stock hubcaps
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:25 PM   #9
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41 is easier to make it ride better then a 50.

If you dont use it as a truck you can put lighter springs in it .

Rims for radial 15" tires you can get from a 70s to 80s ford pickup

I got radial tubeless tires on 56 to 66 rims so I can use the stock hubcaps
DO you know of any for sale?
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You should figure out what size tire you would like to run and then find wheels
that will work for the tire size you want.
Do you want to run a narrow tire, like was on it originally, or would you like to
run a wider tire, if so, how wide ?

Also 1966 was the last of the Ford pickup wheels to have the "innie" hubcap mount
tabs and '40 to '66 pickup hubcaps fit these wheels. !967 thru 1996 Ford 1/2 ton
pickup wheels have the "outie" hubcap mounting tabs for a 10 1/4" hubcaps.

1967 thru 1996 Ford 1/2 ton pickups commonly have 15" wheels, and generally
speaking, the wheels from the late 60's to early 70's commonly have 5" and 5 1/2"
wide wheels, and generally the newer you go, the wheels get wider. So 80's and 90's
wheels will usually have 6" to 6 1/2" wide wheels on Ford 1/2 tons.




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You should figure out what size tire you would like to run and then find wheels
that will work for the tire size you want.
Do you want to run a narrow tire, like was on it originally, or would you like to
run a wider tire, if so, how wide ?

Also 1966 was the last of the Ford pickup wheels to have the "innie" hubcap mount
tabs and '40 to '66 pickup hubcaps fit these wheels. !967 thru 1996 Ford 1/2 ton
pickup wheels have the "outie" hubcap mounting tabs for a 10 1/4" hubcaps.

1967 thru 1996 Ford 1/2 ton pickups commonly have 15" wheels, and generally
speaking, the wheels from the late 60's to early 70's commonly have 5" and 5 1/2"
wide wheels, and generally the newer you go, the wheels get wider. So 80's and 90's
wheels will usually have 6" to 6 1/2" wide wheels on Ford 1/2 tons.




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I believe the early '66 rims were about 5" wide and that would be fine. I definitely want to use my original center caps. So whatever tire would fit on a 5" rim would be great.
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You want wide and original hubcaps...maybe the lincoln rims will do that..others will chime in that knw it betrer...
The later ones doesnt accept early hubcaps.
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Or try Summit........I went to 15's on my '41, 6" rear 5" front . These wheels had the correct grabbers for the '41 hub caps. Delivery the next day.
Between the two I favor my present '41 over the '51 I had for many years.
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You want wide and original hubcaps...maybe the lincoln rims will do that..others will chime in that knw it betrer...
The later ones doesnt accept early hubcaps.
The 50s lincoln 15" rims dont have the indie hub cap nubs
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So, was the front end aligned after the tie rod work?

What is it about the way it drives that you don't like? I'm not clear which vehicle is the issue.
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I'd shy away from 15" wheels as tires for that size is being limited as no car manufacture us using that size anymore. Dodge rucks use 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern in 16". I converted my truck to 5 on 4 1/2. Much better selection of wheels.
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I hate to be contrary, but if you don't mind radials, there are a lot of 15" tires available. A lot of little foreign cars use them as standard equipment. I just bought a set of tires for the little ladies Kia. There seemed to be a wide selection out there.
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That's what I would like to do, but I will need a new set of rims that will take radial tires. I don't want to have to run tubes anymore.
What would you suggest for rims?

gtdohn, are you sure you can't put radials on your current rims without tubes? I think there have been quite a few discussions here where that's been done successfully with car rims, but I'm not sure if your '41 truck rims may be different?
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I run radials, 225 x 70 x R 16, on my 45 pickup on the original 16" x 4" rims with no tubes. So far, 3 years and 15,000 miles, no problem. Would rather have 5" wide rims but haven't been able to come up with a good set.
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if the area around the valve stem hole on your 16" rims is in good shape, not rusty so it will take a tubeless valve stem without leaking, and the bead area good, thats what i would do, go 16" tubeless. i know this argument has been fought for decades, that tubeless rims are special bla bla, but i dont buy it. you do need good wheels though or you will get slow leakers
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