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Old 11-13-2018, 10:10 AM   #1
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Has anybody ever installed Fuel Injection on a Model A engine?
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Old 11-13-2018, 11:46 AM   #2
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Check with Ora at Schwalms, he has one on a pickup truck
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Old 11-13-2018, 12:35 PM   #3
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Yes, I installed the original Mooneyes EFI system. A lot of money and aggravation keeping the CPU working correctly. Over the years I’ve had a single barrel Stromberg, two 97’s, a single 97, original Stromberg 97’s and the new English Strombergs. Both of my A’s are running Weber 32/36 carbs and I’ve found them to be superior to the other intake combos I’ve used over the years.
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Old 11-13-2018, 02:34 PM   #4
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Graeme McNeil of MACS Speed Shop runs fuel injection on his RPU Check out his website: http://www.macsspeed.com/
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Old 11-14-2018, 01:39 AM   #5
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We’re thinking about it. We have installed several Holley Snipers and Holley Terminators
on V-8 powered cars including a supercharged Ford Flathead.
Holley has now come out with a 2 bbl carter BBD EFI replacement we are thinking of putting one on a Model A. $1,000 four wires and an O2 sensor and Bob’s your Uncle.
They work awesome. Self tuning then a little tweaking.
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:16 PM   #6
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I keep thinking about it. I run eight Moonjection efi units on a Chrysler hemi and really like it after spending years and $$s to get it right. I have a Weber 32-36 on my A and it has given me more aggrivation than I like.
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Old 11-14-2018, 08:50 PM   #7
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Part of the allure of a Model A is its simplicity. Why would you want to put all that crap on one? The more highly technical, the more trouble and less reliablility.
WHY?
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Old 11-14-2018, 10:21 PM   #8
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Part of the allure of a Model A is its simplicity. Why would you want to put all that crap on one? The more highly technical, the more trouble and less reliablility.
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Why ?
Because they can !
On the salt, speed records are made and remade using fuel injection and other fuelish ideas.
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Old 11-15-2018, 01:30 AM   #9
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Part of the allure of a Model A is its simplicity. Why would you want to put all that crap on one? The more highly technical, the more trouble and less reliablility.
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They do it for amusement, to annoy purists.
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Old 11-15-2018, 07:50 AM   #10
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Most,but not all of the aftermarket fuel injection systems require a return line to the fuel tank. If utilyzingthe stock tank, how is this achieved?
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Old 11-15-2018, 03:12 PM   #11
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If you look up MACs speed shop as suggested earlier, you will see that he has a simple line returning over the top to the tank. As he runs without a hood (bonnet) this is acceptable I guess? but otherwise, a little unsightly.
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Part of the allure of a Model A is its simplicity. Why would you want to put all that crap on one? The more highly technical, the more trouble and less reliablility.
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The "simplicity" requires constant attention for many of us. I have known more than one Model A owner wanting to sell the car because of the fixing. Not all Model A's are perfect runners all the time. I like to drive. I want it to run as smooth and reliable as it can. I like to experiment and make things better. That is the why of it.
And the "crap" and modern technology has proven to be pretty trouble-free in our modern cars.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:44 PM   #13
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This is the Mooneyes EFI and you can see the return line that goes back to an aluminum tank behind the cockpit..requires a high capacity fuel pump
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Old 11-17-2018, 06:32 PM   #14
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The stock tank cannot supply enough to feed this set up.

Yes, EFI, about 1 gallon to go 3 miles
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You'd get better fuel economy if you converted it to a hybrid.
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You'd get better fuel economy if you converted it to a hybrid.
It would take a few Hybrids to get to 150 mph.
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It would take a few Hybrids to get to 150 mph.
But, why do you want to go 150 MPH?


At those speeds all the air is sucked out of your lungs, and you die.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:28 AM   #18
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If you use either a surge tank and run the return line to or run a Corvette pressure regulator you don’t need a retune line to the tank.
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But, why do you want to go 150 MPH?


At those speeds all the air is sucked out of your lungs, and you die.
Huh? I thought all the blood rushed to the back of your head and that's what killed you...Learn something new every day! I see some of the disasters some people invent for their cars, especially some of the juice brake setups, and I'm pretty sure about 60MPH is where you die. I love fixing things, and I've created a few disasters myself, but in reality its tough to really improve much over a true restoration. Brent often addresses that issue and I wholeheartedly agree. On the other hand I hate when people try to dictate to others what they should do with their own stuff, I'd not do well in a socialist country. Happy Thanksgiving all.
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Huh? I thought all the blood rushed to the back of your head and that's what killed you...Learn something new every day! I see some of the disasters some people invent for their cars, especially some of the juice brake setups, and I'm pretty sure about 60MPH is where you die. I love fixing things, and I've created a few disasters myself, but in reality its tough to really improve much over a true restoration. Brent often addresses that issue and I wholeheartedly agree. On the other hand I hate when people try to dictate to others what they should do with their own stuff, I'd not do well in a socialist country. Happy Thanksgiving all.
Eagle, well said, it is such a privilege to live in a country where we can pursue our own destination. My reason to go fast is because I can, this year went over 175, a personal best for me. I can appreciate the restored cars, race cars and the individuality of each. Brent has an opinion and is passionate about it, good for him, not my cup of tea.

Going 60 mph in a stock Model A could possibly the terminal speed, dying is probable if you hit something larger than a motorcycle.

Bests Regards, Happy Holidays to all, we had better pursue and enjoy our passions before the age of electric self driving cars completely makes us nothing more than SPAM. John
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