The Ford Barn

davehc · 12-10-2017, 08:58 AM

Saw this magnet on e-bay , never saw one before . What and how were they used for ? Are they really that rare ?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202142594580?ul_noapp=true

Steve Plucker · 12-10-2017, 09:25 AM

Not rare...Millions upon millions made...Used on Model T's only...Not sure of the number but about 16 or so on each Model T.

Not sure of the terminology used for the assembly.

Someone will chime in on the rest I hope.

Pluck

Pinesdune · 12-10-2017, 09:28 AM

I am no expert, but model T’s had a magneto built into their flywheel assembly as part of their ignition system (could run it off battery or mag depending on the year, early I believe was only mag). Here’s a link to more info

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1323975296

Saving iron from the scrap pile one piece at a time

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-10-2017, 09:30 AM

YES, I was YOUNG, once & we played with those things, which were QUITE common. I was "told" that they came from inside a Model T coil box????
Also played with HOOPS & PADDLES. The HOOPS were the metal bands from wooden wheel hubs.
Bill Youngonce

eagle · 12-10-2017, 09:34 AM

They are used on the flywheel of a model T in conjunction with a set of coils to make a magneto.

Jwilli · 12-10-2017, 09:36 AM

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I have one hanging on my antique tool board. I think I paid a dollar for it.

eagle · 12-10-2017, 09:40 AM

magnetoassembling.jpg

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-10-2017, 09:55 AM

NOW I understand why they're so COMMON & why Chief thought the Model A was "THE CAR OF THE FUTURE", when compared to the Model Ts CRUDE COMPLEXITY!!!
He learned many of his SKILLS, working on Model Ts, but HATED them! He said, "Model Ts had poor steering, BAD "brakes", didn't go very fast & were a CANTANKEROUS BITCH, to get started up"!!!!
I once asked an Old Mechanic, "Why you foolin' around with a Compass by the Bell Housing"?????----"When I get this danged thing FIRED up, I wanna' drive to the NORTH side of town"---
Chiefs' Son

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-10-2017, 10:01 AM

I "wonder" if a "T" magneto would MALFUNCTION, if you drove with STEEL TOED Work Boots????
Bill Stupidass

KR500 · 12-10-2017, 02:50 PM

After the last thread I posted you would certainly be a person we should interview of your life's story. However I don't know if there is enough paper left in the world or recording tape. to take down your life's story. Maybe you could start writing your life's story for us Bill. Maybe a publisher could take and print all your Ford Barn responses and get rich selling it!

CHuDWah · 12-10-2017, 03:33 PM

No, no, no, it was attached to the Model T rear axle to pick up the parts that fell off the car!

California Travieso · 12-10-2017, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KR500

After the last thread I posted you would certainly be a person we should interview of your life's story. However I don't know if there is enough paper left in the world or recording tape. to take down your life's story. Maybe you could start writing your life's story for us Bill. Maybe a publisher could take and print all your Ford Barn responses and get rich selling it!

There are a lot of community colleges, local libraries, local historical societies and State Universities in California that have oral history projects. They encourage students to interview older residents of their community. There are also local newspapers (although many are going out of business) that often have a columnist who interviews older residents and publish stories.

Of course, we now have You Tube and blogs where people can post their experiences in video or written form.

By the way, I also found one of those magnets in my grandfather's garage in the 1940's and we used to play with it. Never knew what it was either.

David Serrano

daren007 · 12-10-2017, 05:02 PM

A properly model T will start easily even in cold weather. The seller can keep his T magnet. They are not hard to find.

Synchro909 · 12-10-2017, 05:21 PM

16 per car and 15,000,000 Model Ts built=240,000,000 of these made without considering extras for replacements. That would be about a quarter of a BILLION all up! Unique? rare? Hardly!

daveymc29 · 12-10-2017, 11:50 PM

Bill, I wrote that book I gave you in three months, all three hundred plus pages and did it really for my kids and grandkids. Tell them, and us, about growing up. Lots of people have said how much the liked my book and related it to their own bringing up. I believe we would all benefit from your story if you made it available. You can publish it free on CreateSpace.com and get copies for the cost of printing or just do like I did and let amazon.com sell them for you. Get a grandkid to help set it up, my daughter got my story printed in a short day on the computer and now puts out a book a month or so, of her own. No cost to her. Check this site http://bit.ly/From the Shadows Come on folks, we'd love to hear your stories. Every time you're on fordbarn, when you are done type out a few pages, in no time you have the manuscript ready to submit to the printer. If I, a high school drop out can do it, anyone can.

BILL WILLIAMSON · 12-11-2017, 08:33 AM

Chief & Elbert wuz drivin' a dirt road in a "T" with NO lights, on their way home from a DRUNKEN Shindig @ Pritchetts' STORE/BARN.---"IF that Old Mans' MULE is sleeping in the road, AGAIN, I'm gonna' RUN over him"!!---They did & KILLED the motor. While cranking it, the Farmer came out with a SHOTGUN, fortunately, he wuz a BAD SHOT!---Later, they found out he only used Rock Salt. One Farmer used Rock Salt to keep THIEVES out of his Watermelon Patch, all he did was DESTROY 9 Watermelons! There, Watermelon is considered a DELICACY & thieves go to extremes, tryin' to STEAL them----
Chiefs' Laffin' Son

pooch · 12-11-2017, 05:01 PM

Looks like the seller either reads the Ford Barn or someone else told him that ain't RARE dude......

The ad heading now reads .......

VTG ANTIQUE FORD MODEL T MAGNET TOOL ORIGINAL LARGE SCRIPT Happy Now !

dumb person · 12-12-2017, 01:23 AM

They're rare if you need one.

redmodelt · 12-12-2017, 01:28 AM

CRUDE COMPLEXITY
I will have to remember that one. I tell people that the Model T is more complex then a Model A, less parts but more complex.

Sunnybrook Farm · 12-12-2017, 09:18 AM

After 90+ years many have to recharge the magnets in Model T's as they get weak. I think even the early cars had a battery but it was a dry cell and only used when cranking as the mag has to be spinning pretty good to hand crank a cold engine. The dry cell got replaced after a few months as there was no way to charge it on the car.

12-10-2017, 08:58 AM	#1
davehc Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Adrian , Mich. Posts: 386	Model A/T Magnet ? Saw this magnet on e-bay , never saw one before . What and how were they used for ? Are they really that rare ? https://www.ebay.com/itm/202142594580?ul_noapp=true

12-10-2017, 09:25 AM	#2
Steve Plucker BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Walla Walla, Washington USA Posts: 6,066	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? Not rare...Millions upon millions made...Used on Model T's only...Not sure of the number but about 16 or so on each Model T. Not sure of the terminology used for the assembly. Someone will chime in on the rest I hope. Pluck Last edited by Steve Plucker; 12-10-2017 at 11:50 AM.

12-10-2017, 09:28 AM	#3
Pinesdune Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Canada Posts: 414	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? I am no expert, but model T’s had a magneto built into their flywheel assembly as part of their ignition system (could run it off battery or mag depending on the year, early I believe was only mag). Here’s a link to more info http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...tml?1323975296 Saving iron from the scrap pile one piece at a time

12-10-2017, 09:30 AM	#4
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? YES, I was YOUNG, once & we played with those things, which were QUITE common. I was "told" that they came from inside a Model T coil box???? Also played with HOOPS & PADDLES. The HOOPS were the metal bands from wooden wheel hubs. Bill Youngonce __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-10-2017, 09:34 AM	#5
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,025	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? They are used on the flywheel of a model T in conjunction with a set of coils to make a magneto. __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

12-10-2017, 09:36 AM	#6
Jwilli Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Kennesaw, Ga Posts: 511	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have one hanging on my antique tool board. I think I paid a dollar for it.

12-10-2017, 09:40 AM	#7
eagle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Eagle Bend, MN Posts: 2,025	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? magnetoassembling.jpg __________________ "There are some that can destroy an anvil with a teaspoon and shouldn't be allowed to touch anything resembling a tool."

12-10-2017, 09:55 AM	#8
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? NOW I understand why they're so COMMON & why Chief thought the Model A was "THE CAR OF THE FUTURE", when compared to the Model Ts CRUDE COMPLEXITY!!! He learned many of his SKILLS, working on Model Ts, but HATED them! He said, "Model Ts had poor steering, BAD "brakes", didn't go very fast & were a CANTANKEROUS BITCH, to get started up"!!!! I once asked an Old Mechanic, "Why you foolin' around with a Compass by the Bell Housing"?????----"When I get this danged thing FIRED up, I wanna' drive to the NORTH side of town"--- Chiefs' Son __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-10-2017, 10:01 AM	#9
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? I "wonder" if a "T" magneto would MALFUNCTION, if you drove with STEEL TOED Work Boots???? Bill Stupidass __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

12-10-2017, 02:50 PM	#10
KR500 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Addison,ll. Posts: 454	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? After the last thread I posted you would certainly be a person we should interview of your life's story. However I don't know if there is enough paper left in the world or recording tape. to take down your life's story. Maybe you could start writing your life's story for us Bill. Maybe a publisher could take and print all your Ford Barn responses and get rich selling it!

12-10-2017, 03:33 PM	#11
CHuDWah Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Kritter Krick, Flaw-duh Posts: 1,158	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? No, no, no, it was attached to the Model T rear axle to pick up the parts that fell off the car!

12-10-2017, 05:02 PM	#13
daren007 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Saint Cloud Mn Posts: 745	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? A properly model T will start easily even in cold weather. The seller can keep his T magnet. They are not hard to find.

12-10-2017, 05:21 PM	#14
Synchro909 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 7,496	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? 16 per car and 15,000,000 Model Ts built=240,000,000 of these made without considering extras for replacements. That would be about a quarter of a BILLION all up! Unique? rare? Hardly! __________________ I'm part of the only ever generation with an analogue childhood and a digital adulthood.

12-10-2017, 11:50 PM	#15
daveymc29 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Danville, CA Posts: 1,554	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? Bill, I wrote that book I gave you in three months, all three hundred plus pages and did it really for my kids and grandkids. Tell them, and us, about growing up. Lots of people have said how much the liked my book and related it to their own bringing up. I believe we would all benefit from your story if you made it available. You can publish it free on CreateSpace.com and get copies for the cost of printing or just do like I did and let amazon.com sell them for you. Get a grandkid to help set it up, my daughter got my story printed in a short day on the computer and now puts out a book a month or so, of her own. No cost to her. Check this site http://bit.ly/From the Shadows Come on folks, we'd love to hear your stories. Every time you're on fordbarn, when you are done type out a few pages, in no time you have the manuscript ready to submit to the printer. If I, a high school drop out can do it, anyone can.

12-11-2017, 08:33 AM	#16
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? Chief & Elbert wuz drivin' a dirt road in a "T" with NO lights, on their way home from a DRUNKEN Shindig @ Pritchetts' STORE/BARN.---"IF that Old Mans' MULE is sleeping in the road, AGAIN, I'm gonna' RUN over him"!!---They did & KILLED the motor. While cranking it, the Farmer came out with a SHOTGUN, fortunately, he wuz a BAD SHOT!---Later, they found out he only used Rock Salt. One Farmer used Rock Salt to keep THIEVES out of his Watermelon Patch, all he did was DESTROY 9 Watermelons! There, Watermelon is considered a DELICACY & thieves go to extremes, tryin' to STEAL them---- Chiefs' Laffin' Son __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF" Last edited by BILL WILLIAMSON; 12-12-2017 at 09:49 AM.

12-11-2017, 05:01 PM	#17
pooch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South Coast NSW Australia Posts: 2,596	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? Looks like the seller either reads the Ford Barn or someone else told him that ain't RARE dude...... The ad heading now reads ....... VTG ANTIQUE FORD MODEL T MAGNET TOOL ORIGINAL LARGE SCRIPT Happy Now !

12-12-2017, 01:23 AM	#18
dumb person Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: South pacific island Posts: 1,724	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? They're rare if you need one. __________________ <Link> This is how we roll<Link> "I'm Convinced that no one really reads posts anymore; they just fabricate what they think the post says then ramble on about red herrings."--Bob Outcasts rules of old cars #1 Fun is imperative, mainstream is overrated #2 If they think it is impossible, prove them wrong #3 If the science says it impossible you are not being creative enough. #4 No shame in recreating something you never had #5 If it were not for the law & physics you would be unstoppable

12-12-2017, 01:28 AM	#19
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? CRUDE COMPLEXITY I will have to remember that one. I tell people that the Model T is more complex then a Model A, less parts but more complex. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

12-12-2017, 09:18 AM	#20
Sunnybrook Farm Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 409	Re: Model A/T Magnet ? After 90+ years many have to recharge the magnets in Model T's as they get weak. I think even the early cars had a battery but it was a dry cell and only used when cranking as the mag has to be spinning pretty good to hand crank a cold engine. The dry cell got replaced after a few months as there was no way to charge it on the car.